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Interest on DEPOSITS?

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Johann Backer - 25 Aug 2004 21:18 GMT
WHERE the money is being held, the duration of nor the interest paid; was
not disclosed in the following QUESTIONABLE (please do not-reply) response:

Please do not reply to this email address.  This email address is not
monitored for replies.

ORDER NUMBER: 431419306
SHIP TO ADDRESS:
Johann Backer
2010 Miami St

South Bend IN  46613

Good news!  Sprint PCS has approved your order for wireless service with a
refundable deposit
of $125 per phone.  In order to complete your order, all we need you to do
is provide us with
payment information in order to collect the payment.

TO PAY YOUR REFUNDABLE DEPOSIT AND SHIP YOUR PHONE:
Click below to enter payment information.
http://www.wirefly.com/ccupdate.asp?1=132163165173167180&2=118117115118115123117
114120&partnerurl=aaavirtual6


If you do not wish to pay your deposit and ship your phone, no reply is
necessary.

Please be aware that this is a deposit, it is not a fee.  Your deposit will
be returned to
you by Sprint PCS at the end of your first year of service provided you pay
your bills on time
each month.

Unless payment is provided, we have suspended further processing of this
order for wireless
service with Sprint PCS.

We appreciate your business.

Sincerely,

4Phones.biz
Customer Relations Department

Questions?  Please visit http://www.whereismyorder.com for detailed
information on your order
and answers to frequently asked questions.

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Johann Backer - 25 Aug 2004 22:07 GMT
> WHERE the money is being held, the duration of nor the interest paid;
> was not disclosed in the following QUESTIONABLE (please do not-reply)
> response:

A reply from them:

There is not interest paid on a deposit.

Sincerely,

J. Sweeney

Customer Relations Department
R?? Vargas - 26 Aug 2004 05:04 GMT
> WHERE the money is being held, the duration of nor the interest paid; was
> not disclosed in the following QUESTIONABLE (please do not-reply) response:

Soo... ummm... you have a question?  Yes, SPCS requires a deposit in
some cases.  At the end of a year, assuming an account in good
standing, SPCS will pay it back.  You appear to be intending to ask a
question, but I don't see that you ever actually asked it.

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Johann Backer - 26 Aug 2004 16:41 GMT
>> WHERE the money is being held, the duration of nor the interest
>> paid; was not disclosed in the following QUESTIONABLE (please do
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> standing, SPCS will pay it back.  You appear to be intending to ask a
> question, but I don't see that you ever actually asked it.

The QUESTION was asked in the subject line.

The answer was made in the first follow-up (from an email received after
posting): they do NOT pay interest on required deposits.

Perhaps you have some additional information on interest being paid on
deposits?
Jerome Zelinske - 27 Aug 2004 00:40 GMT
    They should pay you for having bad credit?  Maybe they should charge
higher rates for those that need a deposit to pay that interest?

> RØß Vargas wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Perhaps you have some additional information on interest being paid on
> deposits?
Johann Backer - 27 Aug 2004 01:32 GMT
> They should pay you for having bad credit?  Maybe they should charge
> higher rates for those that need a deposit to pay that interest?

Those who do not posess reading comprehension in the english language should
not attempt making a comment.
desi - 27 Aug 2004 02:06 GMT
His comprehension is right on - try Verizon and see how much more they
require for a deposit.  Sprint has the lowest deposit requirements for those
with bad credit than any other major carrier.

> > They should pay you for having bad credit?  Maybe they should charge
> > higher rates for those that need a deposit to pay that interest?
>
> Those who do not posess reading comprehension in the english language should
> not attempt making a comment.
Johann Backer - 27 Aug 2004 03:06 GMT
>>> They should pay you for having bad credit?  Maybe they should charge
>>> higher rates for those that need a deposit to pay that interest?
>>
>> Those who do not posess reading comprehension in the english
>> language should not attempt making a comment.

> His comprehension is right on - try Verizon and see how much more they
> require for a deposit.

I have.  Some require $400.00.

> Sprint has the lowest deposit requirements
> for those with bad credit than any other major carrier.

That fact was never disputed.

When I lived in  Tampa, GTE (now Verizon) paid interest on deposits.
A move to South Bend: Ameritech (now SBC) paid interest on deposits and SBC
still does.

A reply from them: "There is not interest paid on a deposit", indicates that
not only do they NOT pay interest on deposits--- they have also outsourced
their CS Support to a fourth  world country.  "Not"  instead of "no" is
improper word usage.
Steve Sobol - 27 Aug 2004 03:16 GMT
> A reply from them: "There is not interest paid on a deposit", indicates that
> not only do they NOT pay interest on deposits--- they have also outsourced
> their CS Support to a fourth  world country.  "Not"  instead of "no" is
> improper word usage.

Wow. That's a useless analogy.

Sprint has closed some of its call centers but I don't think they've moved any
call center functions offshore. Do you really think all Americans speak perfect
English and speak without an accent? If so, I have some news for you...

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Isaiah Beard - 27 Aug 2004 15:35 GMT
>> His comprehension is right on - try Verizon and see how much more they
>> require for a deposit.
>
> I have.  Some require $400.00.

With that qinning attitude, I'm sure your credit is stellar. ;)

> That fact was never disputed.
>
> When I lived in  Tampa, GTE (now Verizon) paid interest on deposits.
> A move to South Bend: Ameritech (now SBC) paid interest on deposits and
> SBC
> still does.

Then go to Verizon, or to SBC-owned Cingular.  I'm sure that your $400
deposit will go much father on the 0.7% premium APY that most banks are
offering for money market accounts, than would your $125 deposit with
Sprint.  Or, you could just write off the whole 87 cents that Sprint would
have given you on a year's interest on that $125 deposit.
Isaiah Beard - 27 Aug 2004 15:25 GMT
>> They should pay you for having bad credit?  Maybe they should charge
>> higher rates for those that need a deposit to pay that interest?
>
> Those who do not posess reading comprehension in the english language
> should
> not attempt making a comment.

Nor should they be asking "questions," especially when they seem to answer
those questions on their own.
Johann Backer - 27 Aug 2004 18:05 GMT
>>> They should pay you for having bad credit?  Maybe they should charge
>>> higher rates for those that need a deposit to pay that interest?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Nor should they be asking "questions," especially when they seem to
> answer those questions on their own.

There is no "seem" to it. I sent a followup on what I had received since the
post.
THAT is referred to as--- courtesy.
Jerome Zelinske - 28 Aug 2004 05:40 GMT
    I comprehended that a deposit was required from you.  I comprehended
that you wanted interest paid to you on that deposit.  Comprehend that I
do not think interest should be paid on deposits.

>>They should pay you for having bad credit?  Maybe they should charge
>>higher rates for those that need a deposit to pay that interest?
>
> Those who do not posess reading comprehension in the english language should
> not attempt making a comment.
Johann Backer - 28 Aug 2004 13:24 GMT
> I comprehended that a deposit was required from you.  I comprehended
> that you wanted interest paid to you on that deposit.  Comprehend
> that I do not think interest should be paid on deposits.

And do you comprehend that I live in the USA?

If so, then you know that full disclosure is required?
Scott Stephenson - 28 Aug 2004 14:23 GMT
> > I comprehended that a deposit was required from you.  I comprehended
> > that you wanted interest paid to you on that deposit.  Comprehend
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> If so, then you know that full disclosure is required?

Full disclosure does not mean itemizing things that WON'T occur.
John Richards - 28 Aug 2004 21:29 GMT
>> > I comprehended that a deposit was required from you.  I comprehended
>> > that you wanted interest paid to you on that deposit.  Comprehend
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Full disclosure does not mean itemizing things that WON'T occur.

If I'm not mistaken, whether or not interest is paid on a security deposit
is up to each state legislature.

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Scott Stephenson - 28 Aug 2004 21:38 GMT
> >> > I comprehended that a deposit was required from you.  I comprehended
> >> > that you wanted interest paid to you on that deposit.  Comprehend
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> If I'm not mistaken, whether or not interest is paid on a security deposit
> is up to each state legislature.

Only for state regualted utilities.
Jerome Zelinske - 28 Aug 2004 23:35 GMT
    Well, seeing as you have to have a US address to get Sprint PCS
service, I kind of thought you did live in the USA.  I do too.  You were
told it was a deposit.  You were told how much it was.  You were told it
was until you have paid your bills on time for 12 straight months.  I
understand that is all you are *required* to be told.  And I do not
think there should be any further requirements.
    I too am wondering how those non Sprint PCS address figure in?

>>>I comprehended that a deposit was required from you.  I comprehended
>>>that you wanted interest paid to you on that deposit.  Comprehend
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Full disclosure does not mean itemizing things that WON'T occur.
Steve Sobol - 27 Aug 2004 03:07 GMT
>     They should pay you for having bad credit?  Maybe they should charge
> higher rates for those that need a deposit to pay that interest?

Some companies, if they require a deposit, will pay interest. Why should they
not pay interest? I guarantee you that until the end of the deposit period, the
bank account your deposit sits in is generating interest for the company.

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Isaiah Beard - 27 Aug 2004 15:24 GMT
>> Soo... ummm... you have a question?  Yes, SPCS requires a deposit in
>> some cases.  At the end of a year, assuming an account in good
>> standing, SPCS will pay it back.  You appear to be intending to ask a
>> question, but I don't see that you ever actually asked it.
>
> The QUESTION was asked in the subject line.

So your question was "Interest on DEPOSITS?"

Uhh, what about interest on deposits?  If you're going to ask a question,
make sure you at least use complete sentences.  And it's also helpful is you
ask your question in the message body, instead of the subject line.
O/Siris - 30 Aug 2004 18:30 GMT
> The answer was made in the first follow-up (from an email received after
> posting): they do NOT pay interest on required deposits.

Yeah, I noticed that after I posted.  I don't generally read responses
before I respond.  Sorry for missing the question.

You've been given the answer, though.

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"A thing moderately good is not so good
as it ought to be. Moderation in temper
is always a virtue, but moderation in
principle is always a vice."

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Bob Smith - 30 Aug 2004 20:50 GMT
> > The answer was made in the first follow-up (from an email received after
> > posting): they do NOT pay interest on required deposits.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> You've been given the answer, though.

Rob, always a wise move to read the first few replies before putting in
one's two cents worth ... No need to duplicate someone else's correct answer
unless that reply needs some corrections as well ... :).

Bob
Isaiah Beard - 27 Aug 2004 15:22 GMT
> WHERE the money is being held, the duration of nor the interest paid; was
> not disclosed in the following QUESTIONABLE (please do not-reply)
> response:
[snip]
> Good news!  Sprint PCS has approved your order for wireless service with a
> refundable deposit
> of $125 per phone.

What gives me pause is this:

> TO PAY YOUR REFUNDABLE DEPOSIT AND SHIP YOUR PHONE:
> Click below to enter payment information.
> http://www.wirefly.com/ccupdate.asp?1=132163165173167180&2=118117115118115123117
114120&partnerurl=aaavirtual6

And...

> Sincerely,
>
> 4Phones.biz
> Customer Relations Department

Clearly, you're not dealing with Sprint PCS directly, and Sprintpcs does not
do business as wirefly.com nor as 4Phone.biz.  As such, I'd be very suspect
about where this "deposit" is going.  If your credit is bad or nonexistent,
Sprint will usually ask for a deposit upon activation of the phone, not
before it is even shipped to you.

I'd cancel the order and deal direct with Sprint.
 
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