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Mij Adyaw - 19 Sep 2005 18:31 GMT
Why doesn't Sprint offer more Motorola Phones? From an RF performance
perspective, these phones cannot be beat.

-mij
Bob Smith - 19 Sep 2005 19:17 GMT
> Why doesn't Sprint offer more Motorola Phones? From an RF performance
> perspective, these phones cannot be beat.
>
> -mij

They might be in the future. In saying that Motorola burned SPCS back a few
years ago, when their phones, installed with Motorola CDMA chips, kept
crapping out. Cost SPCS a ton of loot on phone returns.

Bob
Mij Adyaw - 19 Sep 2005 20:39 GMT
Verizon must have incurred the same problem since they have been selling
Motorola phones for many years.

>> Why doesn't Sprint offer more Motorola Phones? From an RF performance
>> perspective, these phones cannot be beat.
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>
> Bob
Steve Sobol - 20 Sep 2005 02:22 GMT
> Verizon must have incurred the same problem since they have been selling
> Motorola phones for many years.

Motorola has absolute crap for phones.

Yes, RF performance is stellar, but the fit and finish stinks, and they have
software problems. Verizon had major issues with the T720 and T-Mo had
issues with the V180.

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Isaiah Beard - 20 Sep 2005 20:55 GMT
>> Verizon must have incurred the same problem since they have been
>> selling Motorola phones for many years.
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> have software problems. Verizon had major issues with the T720 and T-Mo
> had issues with the V180.

They USED to stink, but ever since they've moved their newer models to
the FLEX/FLASH software platform (same software used in the RAZR and
V5xx models), the situation has improved.  I'm using a Motorola e815
now, and wouldn't trade it for anything else (at least not until the
CDMA RAZR comes out).

Motorola DID use their own CDMA chipsets back in the day, but it appears
that starting with EVDO, Motorola went to using Qualcomm's MSM6550, and
thus using the same line of chips that everyone else is.

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Steve Sobol - 22 Sep 2005 03:18 GMT
> They USED to stink, but ever since they've moved their newer models to
> the FLEX/FLASH software platform (same software used in the RAZR and
> V5xx models), the situation has improved.  I'm using a Motorola e815
> now, and wouldn't trade it for anything else (at least not until the
> CDMA RAZR comes out).

I have a V188 that I got only because I could get a better rebate on it than
on any other T-Mo model. It has only served to reinforce my opinion that
Motorola phones just suck.

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John Richards - 19 Sep 2005 19:23 GMT
> Why doesn't Sprint offer more Motorola Phones? From an RF performance
> perspective, these phones cannot be beat.

Motorola phones are not very rugged. My son and daughter
are constantly breaking theirs.

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Steve Sobol - 20 Sep 2005 02:23 GMT
>> Why doesn't Sprint offer more Motorola Phones? From an RF performance
>> perspective, these phones cannot be beat.
>
> Motorola phones are not very rugged. My son and daughter
> are constantly breaking theirs.

And when you pay a premium for the phone (Motorola phones are expensive),
that's not acceptable.

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Joseph Huber - 20 Sep 2005 04:03 GMT
>> Why doesn't Sprint offer more Motorola Phones? From an RF performance
>> perspective, these phones cannot be beat.
>Motorola phones are not very rugged. My son and daughter
>are constantly breaking theirs.

Too bad...they used to be rugged.  Plus, I really liked the bottom
connector on the StarTac, with power, data, antenna, audio all though
one connector.

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Mij Adyaw - 20 Sep 2005 05:41 GMT
In my opinion, the Mororola V60i was one of the most reliable and rugged
phones ever produced. It did not have a lot of features, but the RF
performance was exceptional and it was extremely rugged.

>>> Why doesn't Sprint offer more Motorola Phones? From an RF performance
>>> perspective, these phones cannot be beat.
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> Joe Huber
> huber.joseph@comcast.net
larryt510@hotmail.com - 20 Sep 2005 08:57 GMT
The old Sprint StarTac 7867 was the worst phone ever put out by Sprint
(with the possible exception of the Samsung N400).
Joseph Huber - 20 Sep 2005 23:58 GMT
>The old Sprint StarTac 7867 was the worst phone ever put out by Sprint
>(with the possible exception of the Samsung N400).

I had a StarTac ST7867W from 1999 to early 2005, and I found it to be
a quite good phone.  I was traveling more back then, often in fringe
areas.  I routinely picked up signal and was able to make/receive
calls where other Sprint users couldn't.    Because of the nature of
the work I was doing, that phone got beat up and dropped often, and I
never had one problem with it (I bought it used through Ebay).   The
case cracked a little bit, but surprisinly, regular crazy clue adhered
to it, so I patched it up.  I also snapped a couple of antennas.  The
voice quality (both recieving/sending) was superior to any of the
Sanyo's I've looked at (including the MM7400 I have now and the Sanyo
I had previous to the StarTac).

I may have posted this before, but while speaking with Verizon tech
support regarding my sister's account (who still has a ST7867W), the
CS rep told me that Verizion's progress with E911 is not as fast as
anticipated, because many StarTac and Timeport users very much like
their phones and don't want to upgrade.

Joe Huber
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Jerome Zelinske - 20 Sep 2005 02:59 GMT
    Over all I think they have poor quality.  I am not impressed with nokia
either.

> Why doesn't Sprint offer more Motorola Phones? From an RF performance
> perspective, these phones cannot be beat.
>
> -mij
jayskinner@gmail.com - 21 Sep 2005 00:03 GMT
My experience is that the user interface is poor. I was constantly
referring to the manual to do simple things, like add a phone book
entry. And while the RAZR menu system seems to be improved, users
complain that searching the phonebook is slow. I played with one in a
Cingular store last week, and still think the menu system is cumbersome
compared to others, particularly LG. I had a Verizon LG phone several
years ago, and the menu system was very easy to learn and use. It was a
good thing, too, because the User Manual was terrible.
larryt510@hotmail.com - 21 Sep 2005 23:39 GMT
Trust me I have documented info directly from Sprint that states that
the Motorola Star Tac was their worst performing phone ever.  This is a
fact people.

The user interface was very poor.  I never could get used to it.
Notan - 21 Sep 2005 23:58 GMT
> Trust me I have documented info directly from Sprint that states that
> the Motorola Star Tac was their worst performing phone ever.  This is a
> fact people.
>
> The user interface was very poor.  I never could get used to it.

While I thought the menus were some of the worst ever invented,
personally, I don't equate this with "worst performing."

As a matter of fact, performance was rather good.

Notan
Joseph Huber - 22 Sep 2005 01:41 GMT
>Trust me I have documented info directly from Sprint that states that
>the Motorola Star Tac was their worst performing phone ever.  This is a
>fact people.

Let's see your info...

Joe Huber
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larryt510@hotmail.com - 22 Sep 2005 04:22 GMT
This topic came up before and I offered to show the info via a private
e-mail.  I even sent it out to a number of people who requested it.
But I'm not going to waste my time on this subject anymore.  It's old
news and no matter how much I try to convince everyone that the StarTac
and the other motorolas from that time period are still the worst
performing phones by far it doesn't do any good because the same die
hard motorola fans will still be around to tell me that I'm wrong.  LOL
I'm bowing out of this thread.
Isaiah Beard - 23 Sep 2005 16:42 GMT
> This topic came up before and I offered to show the info via a private
> e-mail.  I even sent it out to a number of people who requested it.

I'm requesting it... can you send it via e-mail please?

> But I'm not going to waste my time on this subject anymore. .

So you don't have the info are lying through your teeth then.

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