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Ben - 27 Apr 2006 22:26 GMT
I read an article on someone using the new Sprint to Home and an Asterisk
servier and voip line to get unlimited calls.

I thought that for my brain this was a bit much. I discovered an even
better way.

VoiceStick.com has unlimited VOIP for $20 and global at $25

They are the ONLY voip with a cellular bridge. You input your cell number
in the bridge so that when you call, instead of this voip home phone
ringing you get a new dial tone on the unlimited VOIP. This allows all
your out calls to be a free to "home" call

I also use the call forward so that all incoming call are being forwarded
from my new "home" number. Sprint just sees me calling home alot and
getting a lot of calls (Try 4,000 min this month)

Just sign up for voicestick and Sprint to Home.

BTW no broadband needed. It is all done at the switch level at
voicestick.com  You can also use voicestick.com with a soft phone or get
the ATA they have for $29.95 (The adapter will allow THREE cell phones to
be forwarded to VOIP)

You get unlimited IN and Out calls. I am on the most basic Sprint plan of
$29 a month. LIFE IS GOOD

SO my total cost is $29 phone, $5 for Sprint to Home and $20 for Voice
Stick

Also works with alltell phones
edavid3001@gmail.com - 27 Apr 2006 23:31 GMT
Not trying to be rude, but how long do you think this will last until
they figure out what you are doing and then toss you for violating
terms of service?
Ben - 28 Apr 2006 00:40 GMT
edavid3001@gmail.com wrote in news:1146177076.520819.257270
@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> Not trying to be rude, but how long do you think this will last until
> they figure out what you are doing and then toss you for violating
> terms of service?

I have gone over the terms of service and I don't see where there is a
violation at this point.

I think that at some point they may do things to tighten the terms of
service.

I have seen other ways people are taking the phones "off network" such as
devices that are blueberry that have you call to a "shared" or "in
network" phone that then goes to an asterisk box.

And a couple other way around it.

Also another cell company just allowed a 10 number circle on $59 and up
plans.

I think near term cell companies will go with this type thing but with
higher min. $ plans.

Their main concern is to keep a high average $ ticket.

What I have come up with is like the old days where LD companies would
have you dial around AT&T. Long before deregulation.

Sprint was one of those early dial around companies. Oh how things change
but they don't
Isaiah Beard - 28 Apr 2006 13:27 GMT
> edavid3001@gmail.com wrote in news:1146177076.520819.257270
> @j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> I have gone over the terms of service and I don't see where there is a
> violation at this point.

Well technically, you *have* misrepresented your home number to them.
And you're not calling "home" but rather using the service to dial into
other numbers.

But to me, that point is moot.  You're kind of hiding the costs here, to
yourself and to us.  Yes, you have the cheapest $29.99 plan on Sprint,
but you're also paying $5 for the Sprint to Home, and $20 for the VoiP
interconnect.  That comes out to $55.  For just a little more, you could
get either 1000 anytime minutes with 7PM unlimited N&W, or 500 anytime
outgoing minutes, unlimited incoming minutes (just think, they could
call YOU) and unlimited N&W.

I guess if you're yammering on the phone for 1000 minutes or more a
month all during peak times, AND you're okay with returning to 1984,
when you did have to go through the rigamarole of calling an access
number and then dialing out, your option would be cost effective.  Me, I
tend to have work to do during all but about 4 of those peak hours, and
I have a work phone for work-related calls. ;)

> I think that at some point they may do things to tighten the terms of
> service.

I would imagine so.  Or they could just raise the price of Sprint to
Home.  Typically, the price points of "unlimited" options are set so
that those who underutilize the service offset the costs of those
overutilizing it.

> I have seen other ways people are taking the phones "off network" such as
> devices that are blueberry that have you call to a "shared" or "in
> network" phone that then goes to an asterisk box.

Yes, I've seen them too, and again, for the median user, they tend not
to be cost effective.  The only reason to use them would be if you
really do have that handset glued to your ear during peak times, make
tons of purely international calls, or just have have some inane reason
for sticking it to Sprint.

> Also another cell company just allowed a 10 number circle on $59 and up
> plans.

Alltel.  Their drawback, however, is that they are Tier 2 regional
carrier, and far from nationwide coverage.

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Jeremy - 28 Apr 2006 14:28 GMT
"Isaiah Beard" <sacredpoet@sacredpoet.com> wrote in message

> Or they could just raise the price of Sprint to Home.  Typically, the
> price points of "unlimited" options are set so that those who underutilize
> the service offset the costs of those overutilizing it.

Or they could impose some (undisclosed) "ceiling" beyond which it not
considered to be typical residential use.  My Verizon VoIP service has a
5000 minute cap, beyond which they will investigate usage and terminate
service at their option.

You can bet that they will not allow VoIP providers to provide customers
with a way to get around normal use restrictions.
Ben - 28 Apr 2006 15:14 GMT
> "Isaiah Beard" <sacredpoet@sacredpoet.com> wrote in message
>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> You can bet that they will not allow VoIP providers to provide
> customers with a way to get around normal use restrictions.

Well I am enjoying the "hole" in the system while it lasts.
EP - 23 May 2006 17:11 GMT
Unbelievable .. The corporations in this country are robbing people blind
and you just pick at this guy for being ingenious. To mr. hole in the system

Good Job !! There needs to be more people like you on this planet. You're
one of the few people left in this country that can think outside of the
box.

You've been dealt a corporate government in your lifetime, sad as our
Government IS the best Government in the world and the most under
utilized by it's Citezenry . Everyone else ..... DO AS YOUR TOLD !
Lemmings.

> >> Or they could just raise the price of Sprint to Home.  Typically, the
> >> price points of "unlimited" options are set so that those who
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Well I am enjoying the "hole" in the system while it lasts.
AZ Nomad - 23 May 2006 18:46 GMT
>Unbelievable .. The corporations in this country are robbing people blind
>and you just pick at this guy for being ingenious. To mr. hole in the system
>:
>Good Job !! There needs to be more people like you on this planet. You're
>one of the few people left in this country that can think outside of the
>box.

>You've been dealt a corporate government in your lifetime, sad as our
>Government IS the best Government in the world and the most under
>utilized by it's Citezenry . Everyone else ..... DO AS YOUR TOLD !
>Lemmings.

you need to get back on your medications.
EP - 23 May 2006 19:11 GMT
Looks as though you already have.

> >Unbelievable .. The corporations in this country are robbing people blind
> >and you just pick at this guy for being ingenious. To mr. hole in the system
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> you need to get back on your medications.
Notan - 23 May 2006 19:15 GMT
> Looks as though you already have.
>
> <snip>

Just so we're clear, is this this equivalent of an 8 year old's
"I know you are, but what am I?"

Notan
EP - 23 May 2006 19:26 GMT
Thank you for pointing that out to us children. It's nice to know there's
adults
here that can make us aware of our behavior.

> > Looks as though you already have.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Notan
AZ Nomad - 23 May 2006 22:16 GMT
>Looks as though you already have.

Who are you trying to impress with your third grader's argument "No, you
are"?
EP - 23 May 2006 23:01 GMT
I made a statement, you replied like a 2 yr. old, I replied. Who is trying
to impress who ?

> >Looks as though you already have.
>
> Who are you trying to impress with your third grader's argument "No, you
> are"?
Bill - 24 May 2006 01:14 GMT
girls, girls, girls - - - stop your infighting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bill

>I made a statement, you replied like a 2 yr. old, I replied. Who is trying
> to impress who ?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>> Who are you trying to impress with your third grader's argument "No, you
>> are"?
Joel - 26 May 2006 01:21 GMT
> Unbelievable .. The corporations in this country are robbing people blind
> and you just pick at this guy for being ingenious. To mr. hole in the system
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> utilized by it's Citezenry . Everyone else ..... DO AS YOUR TOLD !
> Lemmings.

    Hmmm... I don't know what's all about, but it seems like you need to kill
yourself to make room for more of him <bg>

    What is your government?  I guess you may like yours more than others, but
most people love the governments like dogs (and who knows your government
may sh.tter than most other but you can smell your own stinky) <bg>
EP - 26 May 2006 01:53 GMT
Whens the last time you wrote to your Congress "person" and told them
what you thought without any reprisal ? If you live in the US, that would
be any time of the day, week, year. If in Iran , then run for your frigging
life to the US and splatter us all over for being insolant while you bask
in freedom.

"EP" <Reply in the groups@here.com> wrote:

> Unbelievable .. The corporations in this country are robbing people blind
> and you just pick at this guy for being ingenious. To mr. hole in the system
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> utilized by it's Citezenry . Everyone else ..... DO AS YOUR TOLD !
> Lemmings.

Hmmm... I don't know what's all about, but it seems like you need to kill
yourself to make room for more of him <bg>

What is your government?  I guess you may like yours more than others, but
most people love the governments like dogs (and who knows your government
may sh.tter than most other but you can smell your own stinky) <bg>
Ben - 28 Apr 2006 15:13 GMT
>> edavid3001@gmail.com wrote in news:1146177076.520819.257270
>> @j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
> Alltel.  Their drawback, however, is that they are Tier 2 regional
> carrier, and far from nationwide coverage.

I have usage well over 2000 min of peak time a month. Yes if I was a
lower minute user I would be better off with a regular plan.

I had Cingular and was paying $120 a month.

Now for my $55 I don't worry about the minutes AND my kids now have a
second line to call out on at home (I can be on it with the cell and it
does not affect them).

But this is not for everyone
matt nicklin - 28 Apr 2006 01:39 GMT
> Not trying to be rude, but how long do you think this will last until
> they figure out what you are doing and then toss you for violating
> terms of service?

This does not violate their terms of service because voice stick is
your number you can use voice stick as a regular voip phone so it can
be considered your home number. Thus not violating their terms of
service they would have to continue to honor your contract until it is
up.
edavid3001@gmail.com - 28 Apr 2006 15:54 GMT
Too bad I went all cellular and have no land line ;)     Now I just
have to figure out how to load up Skype on this Windows Mobile cell
phone with 802.11b I have.  There would be a *free* way for me to talk
to my associates in Italy while mobile.   US to Italy for hours on end
adds up.
Ben - 28 Apr 2006 18:57 GMT
edavid3001@gmail.com wrote in news:1146236089.752901.247950
@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

> Too bad I went all cellular and have no land line ;)     Now I just
> have to figure out how to load up Skype on this Windows Mobile cell
> phone with 802.11b I have.  There would be a *free* way for me to talk
> to my associates in Italy while mobile.   US to Italy for hours on end
> adds up.

Just get Sprint to Home and www.voicestick.com . Get the global plan from
voice stick that has unlimited calls to most of Italy.

Now you can have a new dial out number, use your cell phone to get a NEW
dial tone using the voicestick.com Cellular Bridge, plus you get unlimited
calls to the USA and 39 other contries.

Sounds like this set up would save you a bundle.
Bob Lambeau - 01 May 2006 00:34 GMT
> edavid3001@gmail.com wrote in news:1146236089.752901.247950
> @g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>> to my associates in Italy while mobile.   US to Italy for hours on end
>> adds up.
I too am working on that:)

> Just get Sprint to Home and www.voicestick.com . Get the global plan from
> voice stick that has unlimited calls to most of Italy.
snip
read through their web site,
on one page all calls to Poland are free then,
when you go to the terms of service (which they reserve to change at any
moment) as of  4/24/06 it now says its .03 cents a min to call Poland.
I´ll stick with Skype
Skype is .021 cents a min
Ben - 01 May 2006 06:16 GMT
>> edavid3001@gmail.com wrote in news:1146236089.752901.247950
>> @g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Poland. I´ll stick with Skype
> Skype is .021 cents a min

I just looked it up, all of Poland is no cost if on the Global $25 a
month plan and 0.014 cents if on a per min. plan only.

What link were you looking at?
SMS - 24 May 2006 01:09 GMT
<snip>

> SO my total cost is $29 phone, $5 for Sprint to Home and $20 for Voice
> Stick

That's a great idea for users that use a lot of minutes per month, I
guess. I expect that most non-business users are on the lowest cost
plans offered by each carrier, and they just are careful about their
usage. My monthly Verizon bill is $28 for 300 peak minutes. I think that
I've gone over once in the past six years or so, because a) Verizon is
the dominant carrier in my area so most usage is MTM, and other usage is
mostly off-peak.
 
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