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PPC 6700 vs Plam Treo unit?

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me@privacy.net - 29 Apr 2006 19:40 GMT
The PPC 6700 gets good reviews but I'm not sure I
really want a "slider"

is the slider just another potential point of failure?

Whereas the keyboard being all in one on the Palm Treo
is more robust mechanically?
Der.MEROVINGIAN - 30 Apr 2006 01:41 GMT
The PPC 6700 is more powerful and with more features like wifi, EVDO**,
and multimedia like streaming media via windows media player, plus
multitasking. It also more memory than the Treo. (**F.Y.I, the Verizon
Treo has EVDO, the Sprint treo does not)
The Treo is more one-handed, simplified interface, more accessible
keyboard, loads of palm apps out there (some of which cause resets) and
some would argue more user friendly. I have the Treo (Sprint).

> The PPC 6700 gets good reviews but I'm not sure I
> really want a "slider"
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Whereas the keyboard being all in one on the Palm Treo
> is more robust mechanically?
me@privacy.net - 30 Apr 2006 17:14 GMT
>The PPC 6700 is more powerful and with more features like wifi, EVDO**,
>and multimedia like streaming media via windows media player, plus
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>keyboard, loads of palm apps out there (some of which cause resets) and
>some would argue more user friendly. I have the Treo (Sprint).

If you were buying right NOW...which one would you get
and why?

I'm leaning towards the PPC 6700 myself but worried abt
that sliding mechanism robustness
me@privacy.net - 01 May 2006 01:44 GMT
>The PPC 6700 is more powerful and with more features like wifi,

has anyone here actually used wifi on their PPC 6700?

If yes does it work well?
Todd W - 01 May 2006 20:36 GMT
>>The PPC 6700 is more powerful and with more features like wifi,
>
> has anyone here actually used wifi on their PPC 6700?

Sure... use it in the house.

> If yes does it work well?

Works just as well as the XP wireless connection manager. Works at the
coffee house, and Tower City (though I have an unlimited data plan, so it
dosen't matter which connection I use). EVDO is really fast. I cant tell
which network I'm on without looking.

Todd W.

Todd W.
me@privacy.net - 02 May 2006 03:11 GMT
>Works just as well as the XP wireless connection manager. Works at the
>coffee house, and Tower City (though I have an unlimited data plan, so it
>dosen't matter which connection I use). EVDO is really fast. I cant tell
>which network I'm on without looking.

Can I use the PPC 6700 has a "modem" for a laptop that
does not have broadband card in it?

IOW...could I get the PPC 6700 and their unlimited
Internet package and use it as my ONLY Internet
connection even with my laptop?
Notan - 02 May 2006 03:25 GMT
> >Works just as well as the XP wireless connection manager. Works at the
> >coffee house, and Tower City (though I have an unlimited data plan, so it
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> Internet package and use it as my ONLY Internet
> connection even with my laptop?

You can use the 6700 as a browser, with a Vision plan (or on a per Kb basis).

The Vision plans, however, don't allow you to "tether" the phone to a laptop.

If that's what you want, it'll cost you.

Notan
Todd W - 02 May 2006 04:07 GMT
>>Works just as well as the XP wireless connection manager. Works at the
>>coffee house, and Tower City (though I have an unlimited data plan, so it
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Internet package and use it as my ONLY Internet
> connection even with my laptop?

Sure. But you have to get the phone-as-modem package. Its called "Power
Vision Attachable Plan". At the time I bought the phone, the unlimited Power
Vision Attachable Plan is $39.99/mo when you have a voice plan.

Setting it up is easy. You run the install disk on your laptop and it
creates a DUN entry for you called PPC6700SP. Then on the phone you select
Start -> Programs -> Wireless Modem and click start. Plug the included USB
cable in to the phone and then the laptop, and then on the laptop do
Start -> Connect To -> PPC6700SP and click connect.

Todd W.
me@privacy.net - 02 May 2006 14:46 GMT
>Sure. But you have to get the phone-as-modem package. Its called "Power
>Vision Attachable Plan". At the time I bought the phone, the unlimited Power
>Vision Attachable Plan is $39.99/mo when you have a voice plan.

Hmm..... OK

Well than I might as well have two net connections if
it cost and additional 440 to hook it up to my PC

Cayuse I can get broadband connection for $30 /month to
any home/desktop PC

I just thought I could buy ONE device... PPC 6700 with
unlimited Net connection..... and use it for BOTH on
the run and my home desktop PC..... and still only pay
one fee

You are telling me this cant be done any cheaper than
having two Net connections, right?
Notan - 02 May 2006 15:10 GMT
> >Sure. But you have to get the phone-as-modem package. Its called "Power
> >Vision Attachable Plan". At the time I bought the phone, the unlimited Power
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> You are telling me this cant be done any cheaper than
> having two Net connections, right?

The Vision plans allow you to use programs, that are contained within
the phone, to connect with the Internet.

If you want to use programs that are NOT contained within the phone
(i.e., those on your laptop/desktop/etc.), additional fees apply.

Notan
me@privacy.net - 02 May 2006 16:02 GMT
>The Vision plans allow you to use programs, that are contained within
>the phone, to connect with the Internet.
>
>If you want to use programs that are NOT contained within the phone
>(i.e., those on your laptop/desktop/etc.), additional fees apply.

Ahh...I see

that wasn't explained to me at Sprint

all they said was that for an additional $15/month on
top of the $40month calling plan I have I could get
UNLIMITED net use on the PPC 6700
Notan - 02 May 2006 16:27 GMT
> >The Vision plans allow you to use programs, that are contained within
> >the phone, to connect with the Internet.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> top of the $40month calling plan I have I could get
> UNLIMITED net use on the PPC 6700

Their "unlimited Internet access" phrase has hooked many
an unsuspecting subscriber!

Notan
me@privacy.net - 02 May 2006 17:21 GMT
>Their "unlimited Internet access" phrase has hooked many
>an unsuspecting subscriber!

Well I still might go for it anyway

Do you agree that's its a good deal in conjunction with
a PPC 6700 unit?

I can always use my laptop at local wifi hotspot
Notan - 02 May 2006 17:56 GMT
> >Their "unlimited Internet access" phrase has hooked many
> >an unsuspecting subscriber!
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> I can always use my laptop at local wifi hotspot

If the 6700's capabilities meet *your* requirements, then it's a good deal.

Personally, I need full system (i.e., laptop) Internet access and, therefore,
went with a data card (as opposed to tethering my phone).

I wish I didn't *have to* pay an additional $60/month, but I have no choice!

Notan
me@privacy.net - 02 May 2006 18:20 GMT
>If the 6700's capabilities meet *your* requirements, then it's a good deal.

Agree... and that is a big if not having ever used PC
6700 b4

>Personally, I need full system (i.e., laptop) Internet access and, therefore,
>went with a data card (as opposed to tethering my phone).

So you have this service for your laptop (broadband
card).... AND service for your home/desktop PC as well?

If yes....what is your total Net cost per month if you
don't mind me asking?
Notan - 02 May 2006 18:42 GMT
> >If the 6700's capabilities meet *your* requirements, then it's a good deal.
>
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> If yes....what is your total Net cost per month if you
> don't mind me asking?

My Sprint bill, which includes a *great* retention deal and unlimited data,
comes to ~$120/month.

My broadband is DSL (Living in the mountains, this is our only high-speed
option), and is supplied by Qwest.

Notan
me@privacy.net - 03 May 2006 14:53 GMT
>If the 6700's capabilities meet *your* requirements, then it's a good deal.

Can you do newsgroups on the PPC?

Install some software ala Agent for doing Newsgroups
Todd W - 02 May 2006 20:36 GMT
>>Sure. But you have to get the phone-as-modem package. Its called "Power
>>Vision Attachable Plan". At the time I bought the phone, the unlimited
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> You are telling me this cant be done any cheaper than
> having two Net connections, right?

Yeah, I still have the broadband connection at home. The service from sprint
allows me to connect anywhere besides home. I wouldn't try to replace my
home service with it.

Todd W.
EP - 25 May 2006 06:53 GMT
> >>The PPC 6700 is more powerful and with more features like wifi,
> >
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Todd W.

Theres a big differance between EVDO (telco protocol) and 802.11[b/g]  I'm
assuming that the poster is asking about 802.11 wifi as that is how 802.11
is always defined in slang.

All of my 802.11 cards (3) draw too much current to use without an external
power source on my ipaq. Thats even with an extra battery tethered to it via
the pcmcia card sleeve. Older PPC's like my Ipaq 3765 are pretty hard on
batteries. The 802.11 uses about 45-60 ma or approximately 1.5 watts
depending on the distance from the access point.
General Schvantzkoph - 25 May 2006 21:04 GMT
> The PPC 6700 is more powerful and with more features like wifi, EVDO**,
> and multimedia like streaming media via windows media player, plus
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>> Whereas the keyboard being all in one on the Palm Treo
>> is more robust mechanically?

The new Treo 700p has EVDO, if you are considering a Treo that's the one
you should be looking at not the 650 which as of last week is obsolete.
me@privacy.net - 25 May 2006 21:41 GMT
>The new Treo 700p has EVDO, if you are considering a Treo that's the one
>you should be looking at not the 650 which as of last week is obsolete.

Understood

But my question was one abt candy bar style all in one
phones vs the slider phones.

Which physical style is better and why?
Notan - 25 May 2006 21:56 GMT
> >The new Treo 700p has EVDO, if you are considering a Treo that's the one
> >you should be looking at not the 650 which as of last week is obsolete.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Which physical style is better and why?

Are you even CAPABLE of making a decision on your own?

Notan
Joel Kolstad - 26 May 2006 03:32 GMT
> Which physical style is better and why?

I'd suggest you go try out both styles at a store and judge for yourself.

As others have pointed out, slide-out keyboards seem unlikely to be as
mechanically durable as the fixed keyboard that Treos have.  On the other
hand, if you're like the average consumer who now gets a new cell phone
something like every 18 months, realistically mechanical durability is not
going to be a problem.
me@privacy.net - 26 May 2006 14:11 GMT
>On the other
>hand, if you're like the average consumer who now gets a new cell phone
>something like every 18 months, realistically mechanical durability is not
>going to be a problem.

Good point
 
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