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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Sprint PCS / June 2006Got my Treo 700p yesterday
Well, it was a bit of a hassle in the Pasadena store - I had intended to go in Friday morning, and the 600 beeped an alarm at me reminding me of a lunch date at the exact hour - so I was a few hours late and saw the last one of the day being sold. So I made a reservation (dubiously) and, when told they'd be in stock the following day, went back. Success. We have (or had) a 600 and a 650. I would have traded in the 650 and handed down the 600 except that I had a pixel explosion which obscured the system time, making the phone useless as a pocket watch. So, I had to go the full upgrade route and expected to pay the $499.99. They gave me an in-store discount of $100 and threw in a Jabra BT500 Bluetooth headset (retail $99.99). I bought the charging cradle since I kept the old 600 by the bed (good flashlight) and figured I'd keep that going. The 650 has the same form factor. Features: Power Vision is great! Got the Bluetooth headset working without much effort, and was able to link the phone to my (Apple) iBook G4 by creating a virtual serial port. I haven't shut off the home wireless and used Bluetooth yet, but the two devices are tethered and I will have an easier time of finding a hotspot at LAX the next time I'm there than the last time (signal bleed from a Red Carpet Club). "OnDemand" looks like it's going to flip into paid mode after a trial period (haven't read the Power Vision User's Guide, just the Owner's Guide). It has a TV Guide-branded button which I was able to configure for my cable company here in town. It took some effort to do, but it's interesting to have. I only really watch two channels, but for TV addicts... Camcorder: QuickTime necessary. iMovie should be able to edit. Camera: I already had a 2 megapixel camera, and was satisfied, so perhaps a single device with a .7 megapixel downgrade won't be the end of the world. Voice Memo: I'm going to get a medical prescription for this device so I can use it and deduct it. Good news - it takes a standard SD card instead of that goofy little card on the 650 I seem to remember. No more adapter needed. SD flash memory or SDIO products work again. There's more. Others can add their stories. Buy the insurance plans. - Toggle ... > Good news - it takes a standard SD card instead of that goofy little > card on the 650 I seem to remember. No more adapter needed. SD flash > memory or SDIO products work again. "goofy little card"???? The 600 and 650 take standard SD cards. > The 600 and 650 take standard SD cards. Yes, my mistake. It must have been some other device. Toggle > Well, it was a bit of a hassle in the Pasadena store - I had intended > to go in Friday morning, and the 600 beeped an alarm at me reminding me [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > - Toggle I got one yesterday too. It's a neat device and I look forward to learning more about its capabilities. > I got one yesterday too. It's a neat device and I look forward to > learning more about its capabilities. Once you folks have had a chance to play around with email and the Documents (Word & Excel), I'd like to hear the ease of editing those type of forms, formatting, etc. Reason why I ask is I'd like to leave my laptop at home, and use the 700P while on the road. For yours truly, I receive insurance renewal quotes from my home office in Word doc files, to where I transpose the info to Excel files to send to my clients, in PDF format. Am wondering, even with the Palm OS, do they come with any AV protection, or is that something that either isn't a worry with a Palm OS, or whether one needs to download and install software from Palm's site? Bob I woiuld have gotten one till I found out it uses the palm OS. If only it had stuck wtih windows mobile.. >> I got one yesterday too. It's a neat device and I look forward to >> learning more about its capabilities. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Bob >I woiuld have gotten one till I found out it uses the palm OS. If only it >had stuck wtih windows mobile.. Maybe you could write a palm app to chew up 95% of the cpu and crash it randomly to have it run like windows mobile. >>I woiuld have gotten one till I found out it uses the palm OS. If only it >>had stuck wtih windows mobile.. > > Maybe you could write a palm app to chew up 95% of the cpu and crash > it randomly to have it run like windows mobile. Or perhaps Palm could write an app that will natively support MS Exchange 2003 push mail and remote admin/wipe features like Windows Mobile. >>>I woiuld have gotten one till I found out it uses the palm OS. If only it >>>had stuck wtih windows mobile.. >> >> Maybe you could write a palm app to chew up 95% of the cpu and crash >> it randomly to have it run like windows mobile. >Or perhaps Palm could write an app that will natively support MS Exchange >2003 push mail and remote admin/wipe features like Windows Mobile. same thing >> I got one yesterday too. It's a neat device and I look forward to >> learning more about its capabilities. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Bob I have a 650, I can't imagine trying to edit documents on it. The keyboard and screen are tiny. When I've used it for e-mail I've limited my answers to a few words so I don't have to do much typing. Google works pretty well on it, although it's painfully slow. The 700p has EVDO so web searching should be much nicer. >I have a 650, I can't imagine trying to edit documents on it. The keyboard >and screen are tiny. When I've used it for e-mail I've limited my answers >to a few words so I don't have to do much typing. Google works pretty well >on it, although it's painfully slow. The 700p has EVDO so web searching >should be much nicer. Cant you buy a small foldable keyboard for it tho? Also.... is the Treo 700w out yet? On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 08:04:34 -0500, me wrote: >>I have a 650, I can't imagine trying to edit documents on it. The keyboard >>and screen are tiny. When I've used it for e-mail I've limited my answers [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Also.... is the Treo 700w out yet? How do you put a foldable keyboard into your shirt pocket? Once you are out of the shirt pocket form factor you might as well use a laptop. Speech recognition would be a good solution, don't know what's available for a Treo besides the limited case of phone number speech recognition. > On Tue, 06 Jun 2006 08:04:34 -0500, me wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > recognition would be a good solution, don't know what's available for a > Treo besides the limited case of phone number speech recognition. Yes, you can get speech recognition for the 600, 650, and 700p. You can either use Sprint Voice Command, or you can purchase voice recognition software for the device itself. >>I have a 650, I can't imagine trying to edit documents on it. The keyboard >>and screen are tiny. When I've used it for e-mail I've limited my answers [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Also.... is the Treo 700w out yet? Yes to both. >> Also.... is the Treo 700w out yet? > > Yes to both. Not on Sprint :( >>> Also.... is the Treo 700w out yet? >> >> Yes to both. > >Not on Sprint :( That's what I thought.... no 700w on sprint yet On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 08:27:30 -0500, me wrote: >>>> Also.... is the Treo 700w out yet? >>> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > That's what I thought.... no 700w on sprint yet Why would you want the W?, it runs the dreadful Windows Mobile and it has an inferior screen (due to the limitations of the Windows Mobile OS). Todays NY Times has a review of the new Motorola Q. The review says that the Q has wonderful hardware that's crippled by Windows Mobile. The list a series of common operations that take one or two steps on the palm Treos that take 4 to 7 steps on the Q. >Why would you want the W?, it runs the dreadful Windows Mobile and it has >an inferior screen (due to the limitations of the Windows Mobile >OS). Well I don't think I do I think I'm going for the 700 Palm unit Agree that's a better choice? On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 09:29:44 -0500, me wrote: >>Why would you want the W?, it runs the dreadful Windows Mobile and it has >>an inferior screen (due to the limitations of the Windows Mobile [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Agree that's a better choice? There is no question a 700P is a better choice than a 700W. >There is no question a 700P is a better choice than a 700W. Is Palm software generally more robust and less "aft" than windows mobile software Bottom line ...is Palm software more 'elegant" than windows mobile software? On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 11:40:45 -0500, me wrote: >>There is no question a 700P is a better choice than a 700W. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Bottom line ...is Palm software more 'elegant" than > windows mobile software? The universal consensus is that the Palm software is vastly better than Windows Mobile. > On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 11:40:45 -0500, me wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > The universal consensus is that the Palm software is vastly better than > Windows Mobile. That's a rather liberal application of the term "universal consensus", not to mention entirely subjective, don't you think? > There is no question a 700P is a better choice than a 700W. Unless you want to do push-sync w/ Exchange 2003, which I do. 700P doesn't support this. Also, 700w can be remotely managed/wiped from an Exchange 2003 server. >> There is no question a 700P is a better choice than a 700W. > >Unless you want to do push-sync w/ Exchange 2003, which I do. 700P doesn't >support this. Also, 700w can be remotely managed/wiped from an Exchange >2003 server. I will be using this on personal basis only have no need for Exchange server Still advise against Palm? >>> There is no question a 700P is a better choice than a 700W. >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Still advise against Palm? Not advising against Palm. I'm pointing out that if a user wants to do the above items, the 700P would not be a better choice than the 700W. Determine your individual needs, and go from there. >> There is no question a 700P is a better choice than a 700W. > > Also, 700w can be remotely managed/wiped from > an Exchange 2003 server. If yer going to bring that up, the 700p can be remotely wiped via several apps--none of which come close to the price of an Exchange server. One dose of an SMS kill pill and the device is cleared. While SMS isn't as reliable as true push, I wouldn't generally place MS Exchange and "reliable" in the same sentence anyway. Moreover, the Treo 700p can sync Calendar (including accept/decline invitations), Email, and Contacts with an Exchange server. The Treo 650 didn't sync Contacts. While this isn't "push" it can be scheduled at regular intervals (and it's trivial to create rules to notify about specific emails received using SMS). Finally, the Treo 700p does support several non-Exchange (not everyone is in love with Exchange) push solutions.  SignatureMike >>> There is no question a 700P is a better choice than a 700W. >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Finally, the Treo 700p does support several non-Exchange (not everyone is > in love with Exchange) push solutions. It seems the answer then is this: If you or your organization is running Exchange, stick w/ the 700W, if not, got with the 700P. >It seems the answer then is this: If you or your organization is running >Exchange, stick w/ the 700W, if not, got with the 700P. Sounds like the 700p is it for me then Thanks guys >>It seems the answer then is this: If you or your organization is running >>Exchange, stick w/ the 700W, if not, got with the 700P. > > Sounds like the 700p is it for me then > > Thanks guys See? Easy decision! :> There is no question a 700P is a better choice than a 700W. : :Unless you want to do push-sync w/ Exchange 2003, which I do. 700P doesn't :support this. Also, 700w can be remotely managed/wiped from an Exchange :2003 server. A nice feature, until someone writes a worm/virus that does exactly that. |
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