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Ping IP Address of Sprint PCS Cell modem EVDO connection or reverse DNS

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Roark - 19 Dec 2006 21:35 GMT
I have a new Pantech 500 aircard and the connection is fast here in
Burbank, Almost 1000 Kbs.  When I'm connected, however, I need other
people on the internet to be able to ping my IP address (I do remote
support using Ultra VNC).  When I was with Cingular (slow, dropped the
data connection constantly), they had a reverse DNS feature so that
myphonenumber.mycingular.cingular.com would always resolve to my
dynamic IP address.  Sprint seems to have no such thing.   That's OK, I
can use a IP Monster to maintain a dynamic DNS address but I can't even
ping my IP Address when connected.  When I connect, I go to
www.whatsmyip.com and get my IP Address.  Then, I go to www.dslreports
and run a smoke pipe tool.  It returns that my address is un-pingable.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Paul Miner - 19 Dec 2006 22:00 GMT
>I have a new Pantech 500 aircard and the connection is fast here in
>Burbank, Almost 1000 Kbs.  When I'm connected, however, I need other
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>and run a smoke pipe tool.  It returns that my address is un-pingable.
>Thanks in advance for your help.

I believe ping is disabled at the incoming firewall to keep script
kiddies from doing ping sweeps across an entire subnet, waking up
devices that would otherwise remain dormant and causing those devices
to use precious RF resources. Try something other than ping and see if
you get different results.

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decaturtxcowboy - 19 Dec 2006 22:04 GMT
> I have a new Pantech 500 aircard and the connection is fast here in
> Burbank, Almost 1000 Kbs.  When I'm connected, however, I need other
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> www.whatsmyip.com and get my IP Address.  Then, I go to www.dslreports
> and run a smoke pipe tool.  It returns that my address is un-pingable.

You might have been able to do that with Cingular in the past, but no more.

From my are in north Texas, a ping to my cellphone dies out in Cingular's
Atlanta center. We thought they might be simply blocking a ping request,
but it goes further than that. We tried using UltraVNC with a port number
that instant messenger programs are using (since they work, we know those
ports are passable), but it still didn't work. We suspect there is likely
port sniffing going on to prevent this. This is current information as of
this fall.

I never could get Sprint to work, but that is old information over a year
old. Very likely they were and still are doing the same thing.

Carriers appear to find good money in setting you up with a public IP
address. Several thousand dollars to set you up and several thousand
dollars a month for a large business enterprise.

BTW, just tested my Cingular connection with whatismyip just to make sure
my experience is current. Nope, it can't be pinged, nor can I see a web
server being hosted on my laptop.
Paul Miner - 19 Dec 2006 23:34 GMT
>> I have a new Pantech 500 aircard and the connection is fast here in
>> Burbank, Almost 1000 Kbs.  When I'm connected, however, I need other
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>my experience is current. Nope, it can't be pinged, nor can I see a web
>server being hosted on my laptop.

I just tried setting up an FTP server on my EV-DO connection card and
it worked pretty well, considering. I didn't bother trying a web
server to see if the results would be similar.

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Notan - 19 Dec 2006 23:50 GMT
> <snip>
>
> I just tried setting up an FTP server on my EV-DO connection card and
> it worked pretty well, considering. I didn't bother trying a web
> server to see if the results would be similar.

I might be wrong, but I suspect that Sprint will have something to say
about you running a connection card server.

Notan
Paul Miner - 20 Dec 2006 00:59 GMT
>> <snip>
>>
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>
>Notan

You'd be wrong. :)

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Roark - 20 Dec 2006 00:54 GMT
> >> I have a new Pantech 500 aircard and the connection is fast here in
> >> Burbank, Almost 1000 Kbs.  When I'm connected, however, I need other
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> --
> Paul Miner

I'm lost. Are you saying I can setup a web server? And then people can
ping my connection?
Paul Miner - 20 Dec 2006 01:10 GMT
>> I just tried setting up an FTP server on my EV-DO connection card and
>> it worked pretty well, considering. I didn't bother trying a web
>> server to see if the results would be similar.
>>
>I'm lost. Are you saying I can setup a web server? And then people can
>ping my connection?

Not at all. You said you wanted people on the Internet to be able to
ping you, but I don't think that's possible because I _think_ ping is
disabled at the edge of the network. So instead of using ping to make
sure your IP is alive, I suggested that you might be able to use
something else. In my example, I used an FTP server, but I suspect
there are a lot of possibilities available. Not ping, though.

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P.Schuman - 26 Dec 2006 23:19 GMT
you have to remember that each and every packet
usually has a destination "port" which usually equates to a common "service".
Ping is just another "service" that can be blocked by any internal router.
Very much like SMTP email ports blocked by some ISP's, to thwart spam.
So - you just have to find another "service" on your system to access
from the outside world.
decaturtxcowboy - 20 Dec 2006 14:44 GMT
> On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:04:57 GMT, decaturtxcowboy
>> I never could get Sprint to work, but that is old information over a year
>> old. Very likely they were and still are doing the same thing.

> I just tried setting up an FTP server on my EV-DO connection card and
> it worked pretty well, considering. I didn't bother trying a web
> server to see if the results would be similar.

EV-DO apparently is different than the older connections I suppose. Since I
haven't used Sprint in a year, my information is pretty old as I mentioned.

As was mentioned in another post about ping blacking, sure - they could
block ping activity - just as easy as they could in the future block
FTP and HTTP.

I have no idea what the EV-DO TOS says about running a server, but the old
Sprint TOS prohibited running a server and then eventually prohibited all
tethering to a handest - I seem to recall the TOS changed around May of
'04. If the current TOD fo EV-DO does not prohibit a server, it might just
be a matter of time before it does.
P.Schuman - 26 Dec 2006 23:15 GMT
> I have a new Pantech 500 aircard and the connection is fast here in
> Burbank, Almost 1000 Kbs.  When I'm connected, however, I need other
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> and run a smoke pipe tool.  It returns that my address is un-pingable.
> Thanks in advance for your help.

just curious - exactly what do you select at  - www.whatsmyip.com
as it appears to be a portal site.
 
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