Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Sprint PCS / December 2006
Can I transfer my old cellular telephone number after 30 day trial?
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techman41973@yahoo.com - 23 Dec 2006 09:35 GMT I currently have cellular service with Verizon. I like the Sprint version of the PPC-6700 and plan on starting an account with Sprint to try the phone and the service. I want to be able to transfer my verizon cellular number to my new sprint account only after I decide that I like the phone and service before Sprints 30-day risk-free guarantee expires. Does anyone know if this is possible?
mikeyhsd - 23 Dec 2006 14:35 GMT mostly depends on how easily you are to divorce verizon. if you still have time left on your contract with them, they might not be to willing to release the number unless you pay off the contract.
never hurts to ask. do you have any contract dispute problems with verizon that might help your case
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I currently have cellular service with Verizon. I like the Sprint version of the PPC-6700 and plan on starting an account with Sprint to try the phone and the service. I want to be able to transfer my verizon cellular number to my new sprint account only after I decide that I like the phone and service before Sprints 30-day risk-free guarantee expires. Does anyone know if this is possible?
jjim - 23 Dec 2006 18:46 GMT > mostly depends on how easily you are to divorce verizon. > if you still have time left on your contract with them, they might not be to willing to release the number unless you pay off the contract. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > them, they might not be to willing to release the number unless you pay off the > contract. I don't believe they can refuse a port because you are on a contract, they can charge you for early cancellation however. It is my understanding that if the number you want to port is: a working number, it is in the calling area you are located, the correct name, address, account number of former carrier, and password if there is one on the account they have to port the number. If they reject it, they must state why so you can challenge them.
I presently do to business have accounts with Sprint, Alltel, Nextel, Verizon. (cant stand Verizon or Nextel) I recently ported a number from ATT which was a Voip number to Alltel. It took a week cause they said even though it shows as a wireless they consider it a landline. They first rejected it cause of address. My address and billing never changed with ATT, however they outsource, in this case to Level 3 Communications. ATT doesnt tell anyone but they used one address for all their VOIP numbers in an area, even though their billing records are different. The port company tried to reject my request because of the addy. So I had Alltel pretend the other address was mine for the porting form, bam, my number was ported immediately. (Actually they wanted another week but I got their private number and raised enough hell they did it in two days)
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Isaiah Beard - 24 Dec 2006 04:38 GMT > mostly depends on how easily you are to divorce verizon. > if you still have time left on your contract with them, they might not > be to willing to release the number unless you pay off the contract. The FCC requires all carriers to release a number if it's elligible for porting and the porting request is valid. It doesn't matter if you're still under contract. And it doesn't matter if you have an outstanding or late balance.
That said, Verizon CAN bill him for an ETF, and can still come after him for any unpaid bills. But they are not allowed to hold the phone number hostage.
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mikeyhsd - 24 Dec 2006 14:49 GMT does not mean that they cannot delay and place road blocks. nothing to stop them.
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mikeyhsd wrote: > mostly depends on how easily you are to divorce verizon. > if you still have time left on your contract with them, they might not > be to willing to release the number unless you pay off the contract.
The FCC requires all carriers to release a number if it's elligible for porting and the porting request is valid. It doesn't matter if you're still under contract. And it doesn't matter if you have an outstanding or late balance.
That said, Verizon CAN bill him for an ETF, and can still come after him for any unpaid bills. But they are not allowed to hold the phone number hostage.
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Isaiah Beard - 27 Dec 2006 16:52 GMT > does not mean that they cannot delay and place road blocks. *sigh* I guess I have to repeat myself:
The FCC requires all carriers to release a number if it's elligible for porting and the porting request is valid.
They can't put up any roadblocks, and they can't delay. They MUST port the number and meet their stated obligation. The rules on this are very specific, and were written with the potential for carrier stalling in mind.
Of course, if you do something like give the wrong account number, don't give the account password or misspell the account holder's name, then your port will get delayed. But that's par for the course on any port, even if you've been a model customer and are not under contract.
It helps that a lot of the porting is done automatically, and done by a third party company that acts as a go-between among the carriers. Among those go-betweens is Neustar ( http://www.neustar.biz/ ).
I have ported twice already, both while still under contract. In both cases, the ports took mere minutes. Of course I paid the ETF both times, but I wasn't required to pay it in advance before they allowed the port. And I wasn't hassled about it, nor did anyone stall.
mikeyhsd - 27 Dec 2006 18:51 GMT you can repeat yourself, 30,000,000,000 times a day. still does not change the fact that if they decide to place road blocks they will do so. only choice to get around them is to threaten law suit.
best thing is to app[roach them with a smile and good attitude and hope for the best.
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mikeyhsd wrote:
> does not mean that they cannot delay and place road blocks.
*sigh* I guess I have to repeat myself:
The FCC requires all carriers to release a number if it's elligible for porting and the porting request is valid.
They can't put up any roadblocks, and they can't delay. They MUST port the number and meet their stated obligation. The rules on this are very specific, and were written with the potential for carrier stalling in mind.
Of course, if you do something like give the wrong account number, don't give the account password or misspell the account holder's name, then your port will get delayed. But that's par for the course on any port, even if you've been a model customer and are not under contract.
It helps that a lot of the porting is done automatically, and done by a third party company that acts as a go-between among the carriers. Among those go-betweens is Neustar ( http://www.neustar.biz/ ).
I have ported twice already, both while still under contract. In both cases, the ports took mere minutes. Of course I paid the ETF both times, but I wasn't required to pay it in advance before they allowed the port. And I wasn't hassled about it, nor did anyone stall.
Paul Miner - 27 Dec 2006 22:21 GMT >you can repeat yourself, 30,000,000,000 times a day. >still does not change the fact that if they decide to place road blocks they will do so. >only choice to get around them is to threaten law suit. Dead wrong, as usual. What Isaiah said is absolutely correct.
> mikeyhsd wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > the number and meet their stated obligation. The rules on this are very > specific, and were written with the potential for carrier stalling in mind. <SNIP>
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Unquestionably Confused - 28 Dec 2006 00:57 GMT >> you can repeat yourself, 30,000,000,000 times a day. >> still does not change the fact that if they decide to place road blocks they will do so. >> only choice to get around them is to threaten law suit. > > Dead wrong, as usual. What Isaiah said is absolutely correct. Actually, it's a game of semantics, Paul. You do know the difference between "can" and "may" don't you?
I would NOT want to bet money that some idiot working for one of the various cell providers doesn't screw with a customer seeking to port a number. He CAN do it. He MAY NOT do it with impunity.
I think we can agree that pretty much universally, "Thou shalt not kill!" is the law of whatever land you happen to be in. For some strange reason, not everyone seems to have gotten the message after how many thousands of years? You MAY not kill someone but there are a lot of folks out there who CAN and DO do so each day.
So, bottom line is that Mikeyhsd is correct they CAN do so but they do so at their peril for you (the consumer) has the law on your side.
Am I nitpicking? Yep, but so are you. You know damn well that Isaiah meant they MAY not (by law) impede the porting but they certainly can if they choose to violate the law.
>> mikeyhsd wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> the number and meet their stated obligation. The rules on this are very >> specific, and were written with the potential for carrier stalling in mind. Paul Miner - 28 Dec 2006 05:00 GMT >>> you can repeat yourself, 30,000,000,000 times a day. >>> still does not change the fact that if they decide to place road blocks they will do so. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Actually, it's a game of semantics, Paul. You do know the difference >between "can" and "may" don't you? <snip>
Your "thou shalt not kill" analogy was spot on. ;-)
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Isaiah Beard - 29 Dec 2006 14:13 GMT >> Dead wrong, as usual. What Isaiah said is absolutely correct. > > Actually, it's a game of semantics, Paul. Actually, I think I made it pretty clear that it cannot happen. CANNOT. Not "may" not.
> You do know the difference > between "can" and "may" don't you? > > I would NOT want to bet money that some idiot working for one of the > various cell providers doesn't screw with a customer seeking to port a > number. He CAN do it. He MAY NOT do it with impunity. This would be true IF all the ports were done manually. But they aren't, unless ambiguous information is given, and then a neutral third party like Neustar gets involved. The vast majority of ports aren't touched by ANY human, except the human selling you the new service. And they generally have a motive to make the port work, rather than stall it.
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O/Siris - 23 Dec 2006 17:05 GMT techman41973@yahoo.com Wrote:
> I currently have cellular service with Verizon. I like the Sprint > version of the PPC-6700 and plan on starting an account with Sprint to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > like the phone and service before Sprints 30-day risk-free guarantee > expires. Does anyone know if this is possible? There should be no problem doing this. It's a simple phone number swa with the only added step being the "new" number is the one being porte in. Just make sure you have a copy of your Verizon bill with you whe you actually port in.
And I always recommend porting in to ANY carrier this way. Some thir party agents don't want to do it because it messes with thei commisioning. So I also recommend dealing only with actual corporat stores
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Isaiah Beard - 24 Dec 2006 04:35 GMT > I currently have cellular service with Verizon. I like the Sprint > version of the PPC-6700 and plan on starting an account with Sprint to > try the phone and the service. I want to be able to transfer my verizon > cellular number to my new sprint account only after I decide that I > like the phone and service before Sprints 30-day risk-free guarantee > expires. Does anyone know if this is possible? Yes you can. You just call up *2 when you're ready to port over, and let them know what you want to do. Just be aware that the phone number you have with Sprint will go away, to be rplaced by the ported number. Keep that in mind if you give out your Sprint number to anyone.
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