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Lewis - 21 Mar 2007 23:29 GMT
Hello,
New to this, so be nice.
I just signed up for two years with sprint cell phone.  They also talked me
into (Not hard to do) getting a mobile broadband card for my laptop.They
said I could access internet with laptop and get 40 megabytes of data
monthly for 39.99.  How much surfing, email, etc. is this approximately?

Thanks
Luke
Brutus - 22 Mar 2007 04:46 GMT
> Hello,
> New to this, so be nice.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Thanks
> Luke

Luke - Call them back and tell them you want the $59.99 Unlimited Plan.  You
will use up 40 megs pretty quickly if you surf the net much (or download
anything from Microsoft).  One MP3 is about 4 - 6 megs, for example.  Figure
about 20-50k per webpage - unless it has heavy flash and graphic then it is
more.  100 pages could use up your monthly quota.  Google will show you the
size of the page when you surf.

HTH,

Dave
http://ccgroup.us
P.Schuman - 22 Mar 2007 13:31 GMT
is there any way to get a card & unlimited data service
for only a couple of months,
say for a summer road trip ?
SinghaLvr - 22 Mar 2007 14:12 GMT
> is there any way to get a card & unlimited data service
> for only a couple of months,
> say for a summer road trip ?

No.  Even if you already owned the card/phone/device and you went to them and
wanted to activate service (with no subsidy) they still won't let you do it
without an annual contract.  

That's why I have a useless sprint phone sitting here that I would otherwise
access and use periodically.
Todd Allcock - 22 Mar 2007 14:32 GMT
> is there any way to get a card & unlimited data service
> for only a couple of months,
> say for a summer road trip ?

Sure, get the card and plan with a two-year contract, then cancel and pay
the $200 cancellation fee.

The fee is much cheaper than keeping an unneeded $60-80 plan for 20 extra
months.
Brutus - 22 Mar 2007 17:36 GMT
>> is there any way to get a card & unlimited data service
>> for only a couple of months,
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> The fee is much cheaper than keeping an unneeded $60-80 plan for 20 extra
> months.

Isn't it interesting that people think that all companies are out to gouge
them?  If people don't want contracts then go pre-paid.  Unfortunately I am
not aware of any on data cards....  hmmmm...  maybe I could start a new
service!

Dave
http://ccgroup.us
Todd Allcock - 22 Mar 2007 21:30 GMT
> Isn't it interesting that people think that all companies are out to
> gouge
> them?  If people don't want contracts then go pre-paid.

I'm not suggesting the OP thought any company was out to gouge him- I
just made the point that because they don't offer a month-to-month plan
doesn't mean you can't use it for a shorter period and pay the penalty.
(Just look at it differently- instead of "free aircard with 2-year
agreement," it's a $200 aircard with the service length of your choice!)

> Unfortunately I am
> not aware of any on data cards....  hmmmm...  maybe I could start a new
> service!

Most carriers limit the use of prepaid on prepaid, even to their MVNO
partners, because the common school of thought is that high-data/low-
voice users would defect to prepaid, taking their high monthly payments
with them...
Brutus - 23 Mar 2007 05:51 GMT
>> Isn't it interesting that people think that all companies are out to
>> gouge
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> (Just look at it differently- instead of "free aircard with 2-year
> agreement," it's a $200 aircard with the service length of your choice!)

That is a great point.  I wasn't sure where you were going with your
comment.  Thank you for the clarification.

>> Unfortunately I am
>> not aware of any on data cards....  hmmmm...  maybe I could start a new
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> voice users would defect to prepaid, taking their high monthly payments
> with them...

I might have to set up an EVDO card "rental" program.  Maybe $100.00 per
month or $30.00 per week.  It may well pencil out.

Dave
http://ccgroup.us
Todd Allcock - 24 Mar 2007 03:22 GMT
> That is a great point.  I wasn't sure where you were going with your
> comment.  Thank you for the clarification.

No problem.  I'll be the first to admit some of my posts make more sense
in my head than they seem to on screen!  ;-)

> I might have to set up an EVDO card "rental" program.  Maybe $100.00 per
> month or $30.00 per week.  It may well pencil out.

Excellent idea.  Back when I operated a cellular store (late 90's) I
tried to think of a good business model for renting cellphones for
traveling but couldn't figure out a good way to protect myself from
excessive use or roaming charges without requiring a hugh upfront
deposit.  (Remember this was long before prepaid allowed roaming or
national no-roam plans were common.)  

But a data card would lend itself quite well to rental- service is
unlimited, so overage charges wouldn't bite you, and I don't think Sprint
allows data roaming (or at least doesn't charge extra for it.)

However, I suspect there's probably a no rental/reselling service clause
in the service contract just because the cellular lawyers tend to think
of everything...  ;-)
Brutus - 25 Mar 2007 00:05 GMT
>> That is a great point.  I wasn't sure where you were going with your
>> comment.  Thank you for the clarification.
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> in the service contract just because the cellular lawyers tend to think
> of everything...  ;-)

Possibly, but it is worth checking out.

Dave
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Michael Paris - 30 Apr 2007 20:52 GMT
Rental probably will violate Sprint's (or any other carrier for that matter)
end user agreement, but, heck it is an excellent idea.
SinghaLvr - 23 Mar 2007 21:39 GMT
>         Subject: Re: sprint mobile broadband card
>             From: "Brutus" <brutus@freetidbet.net>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> not aware of any on data cards....  hmmmm...  maybe I could start a new
> service!

I'm not aware of pre-paid ANYTHING on Sprint.  I wish they had it ...
Steven J. Sobol - 23 Mar 2007 21:51 GMT
> I'm not aware of pre-paid ANYTHING on Sprint.  I wish they had it ...

Sprint doesn't have prepaid and hasn't for years. That's why they sell
Virgin Mobile prepaid handsets in Sprint corporate stores. Virgin
Mobile is the biggest and best-known Sprint prepaid reseller, and
prepaid is all they do in the US.

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SinghaLvr - 24 Mar 2007 06:00 GMT
>         Subject: Re: sprint mobile broadband card
>             From: "Steven J. Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Mobile is the biggest and best-known Sprint prepaid reseller, and
> prepaid is all they do in the US.

Unfortunately they won't activate their service using a Sprint phone.  You
have to buy a Virgin handset.

These CDMA guys could learn a thing or two from the idea of phone portability
of GSM.
Dennis Ferguson - 24 Mar 2007 06:13 GMT
>>         Subject: Re: sprint mobile broadband card
>>             From: "Steven J. Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> These CDMA guys could learn a thing or two from the idea of phone portability
> of GSM.  

They seem to like it the way it is.  It isn't like there's something about
CDMA phones which prevents this; almost all Asian CDMA phones have
SIM cards.  They just chose not to adopt the functionality here.

Dennis Ferguson
Todd Allcock - 24 Mar 2007 06:28 GMT
> Unfortunately they won't activate their service using a Sprint phone.
> You have to buy a Virgin handset.
>
> These CDMA guys could learn a thing or two from the idea of phone
> portability of GSM.  

Judging by the increased crippling of, and restrictions on, GSM phones
and services from Cingular and T-Mobile, it seems like the GSM guys are
learning from the CDMA guys instead!  :-(
SinghaLvr - 24 Mar 2007 19:55 GMT
>         Subject: Re: sprint mobile broadband card
>             From: Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> and services from Cingular and T-Mobile, it seems like the GSM guys are
> learning from the CDMA guys instead!  :-(

Agreed ... and it's unfortunate.  However so long as GSM has SIM cards there
will be unlocked phones.
Michael Paris - 30 Apr 2007 20:57 GMT
"> Judging by the increased crippling of, and restrictions on, GSM phones
> and services from Cingular and T-Mobile, it seems like the GSM guys are
> learning from the CDMA guys instead!  :-(

Yes but one can always go and get an unlocked gsm phone, yeah they are
expensive, but usually are superior and keeps you having to sign 2 year
agreements.  Also, one can get their phones unlocked and reflashed for like
$20.   And what I don't care for with the CDMA carriers, they won't even
activate phones from another carrier on their systems.
Todd Allcock - 01 May 2007 06:44 GMT
> Yes but one can always go and get an unlocked gsm phone, yeah they are
> expensive, but usually are superior and keeps you having to sign 2 year
> agreements.

Unfortunately, many unlocked phones, being "world standard" often lack
850MHz, and/or the "non-standard" US 3G UMTS data frequencies that US
carrier-branded phones have.

>  Also, one can get their phones unlocked and reflashed for like $20.

This is usually the way to go, at least in the US.
Michael Paris - 30 Apr 2007 20:53 GMT
>> I'm not aware of pre-paid ANYTHING on Sprint.  I wish they had it ...
>
> Sprint doesn't have prepaid and hasn't for years. That's why they sell
> Virgin Mobile prepaid handsets in Sprint corporate stores. Virgin
> Mobile is the biggest and best-known Sprint prepaid reseller, and
> prepaid is all they do in the US.

Well they do have Boost which is pre-paid if you can stand that redneck,
push to talk redneck crap.
Todd Allcock - 24 Mar 2007 03:10 GMT
> I'm not aware of pre-paid ANYTHING on Sprint.  I wish they had it ...

They do sort of.  Sprint has decided not get involved in the hassles of
prepaid directly, so they work through MVNOs (Mobile Virtual Network
Operators) Virgin Mobile is a prepaid Sprint reseller, and Boost Mobile
resells Nextel on the prepaid basis.
Michael Paris - 30 Apr 2007 20:50 GMT
> Isn't it interesting that people think that all companies are out to gouge
> them?  If people don't want contracts then go pre-paid.  Unfortunately I
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> Dave
> http://ccgroup.us

Dave,
    They did sell me a Sierra Wirless 595U usb adaptor for $69.00 plus
getting a $50 rebate.  Since the card costs about $200.00 if it was
logicallt possiable to buy one w/o service or as a replacement for a lost
device.  I understand their point of view.
Mike.
Michael Paris - 30 Apr 2007 20:47 GMT
> The fee is much cheaper than keeping an unneeded $60-80 plan for 20 extra
> months.
Exactly my thoughts, my mobile phone service is Cingular, my data card is
Sprint, no 3g HSDPA coverage by me, as well as it being cheaper then
Cingular do to discounts through where I work.  If in a year, things change,
I'll just pay the early termination fee and go with Cingular, if they don't
match the discount I am getting, I will just stay with Spring, especially if
they start rolling out WiMAX.  Heck, if they do that, I'll get one of those
linksys or other brand wireless routers and drop my cable modem and save
even more.

BTW I have no complaints with Sprints service, it's pretty damned fast as it
is now, about as fast as my brother in laws base dsl.
Mike
Sierra Wireless 595U
Todd Allcock - 22 Mar 2007 14:21 GMT
> Hello,
> New to this, so be nice.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> said I could access internet with laptop and get 40 megabytes of data
> monthly for 39.99.  How much surfing, email, etc. is this approximately?

Less than you'd think.  A picture taken with a 5 megapixel camera is
about 3MB.  You could e-mail 13 of those pictures and be done for the
month!

A single webpage with just a few graphics or photos can easily be 200kb.
200 webpages like that will be 40MB.

I believe Sprint will sell you an unlimited plan for $59.99 if you also
have a phone with them (which you obviously do.)  

Alternatively, can't they sell you a cheaper "PAM" (Phone As Modem) plan
that will let you use your phone, connected by USB cable, instead of the
aircard?
Brutus - 22 Mar 2007 17:38 GMT
>> Hello,
>> New to this, so be nice.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> that will let you use your phone, connected by USB cable, instead of the
> aircard?

If he has a Blackberry he can get unlimited data for only $39.99 and that
INCLUDES phone as modem.  (EVDO rev. 0.)

Dave
http://ccgroup.us
Zman - 31 Mar 2007 13:31 GMT
That goes for the Treo's as well.  Works pretty well if you have a Bluetooth
capable laptop, but you can get a Bluetooth adapter if you need it.

>>> Hello,
>>> New to this, so be nice.
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> Dave
> http://ccgroup.us
newsreader - 22 May 2007 08:06 GMT
I've been considering getting a card as well.  I already have a Palm.
Any opinions as to whether or not "phone as a modem" would work out better?
> Luke
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Barry Schrager - 22 May 2007 16:55 GMT
> I've been considering getting a card as well.  I already have a Palm.
> Any opinions as to whether or not "phone as a modem" would work out better?
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I used to have a Verizon Broadband card and now am using Sprint's Phone
as Modem with a Sanyo 8400.  The Phone as Modem does work well -- I've
experienced a few glitches getting it connected the first time, but that
passed.  Also, it seems easier to have the broadband card inserted into
your computer rather than having the phone loose and connected to your
computer via a USB cable.  That's a lot clutzier when you're sitting in
an airport waiting for a flight.

The real issue is that your phone is not available while you are online.  
Incoming phone calls will not ring your phone (it will seem to the
caller like it is ringing) and go to Voicemail.  Your phone will
indicate that you have a voicemail so you can terminate your session,
listen to the voicemail and return the call.

It's a tradeoff you should think about.  

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Michael Paris - 22 May 2007 21:45 GMT
A few weeks back got a Sprint Sierra Wireless 595U broadband card, well
works through the USB port, so far very happy.  Even works on my MacBook.
Beauty of this beast is it works on all computers with usb, Sprint has
drivers for Vista, OSX and Linux on their site.  So can be used as a back up
on your home unit if your dsl or cablemodem quits or has problems.
Mij Adyaw - 23 May 2007 02:45 GMT
>A few weeks back got a Sprint Sierra Wireless 595U broadband card, well
>works through the USB port, so far very happy.  Even works on my MacBook.
>Beauty of this beast is it works on all computers with usb, Sprint has
>drivers for Vista, OSX and Linux on their site.  So can be used as a back
>up on your home unit if your dsl or cablemodem quits or has problems.

How large is the the card that works through a USB port? It would seem to
solve the problem for that may want to use the card in several laptops; one
with PCMCIA and the other with an Express Card slot.
versed@gmail.com - 23 May 2007 23:13 GMT
> >A few weeks back got a Sprint Sierra Wireless 595U broadband card, well
> >works through the USB port, so far very happy.  Even works on my MacBook.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> solve the problem for that may want to use the card in several laptops; one
> with PCMCIA and the other with an Express Card slot.

It's about 4-5 inches ling and 1.5 inches wide or so and fairly thin, it
can be used directly into the usb port, or with its included cradle.  I
don't find it a problem.
Michael Paris - 24 May 2007 02:54 GMT
If this is a double post excuse me, was using a new client and might have
had some problems.

The SW 595u is like 4 or so inches long, and like 1.5 inches wide, not too
bad.  It can be plugged directly into the notebook or any pc's usb port and
used or used with its cradle.  I don't find it obtrusive, nor have I read
complaints with that aspect or any other.  Yes its more then the free card
Sprinr gives, but to me its benifits far ourweigh it.
Mij Adyaw - 24 May 2007 08:48 GMT
That is gigantic! I wonder why it is so darn large? That is really strange.
It seems that it would be very annoying having a four inch device sticking
out of the USB port of a laptop while holding the computer on your lap in
the airport. I really cannot imagine how it wouldn't be a problem. I need to
go see one of these devices at the Sprint Store.

> If this is a double post excuse me, was using a new client and might have
> had some problems.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> read complaints with that aspect or any other.  Yes its more then the free
> card Sprinr gives, but to me its benifits far ourweigh it.
Michael Paris - 25 May 2007 04:24 GMT
> That is gigantic! I wonder why it is so darn large? That is really
> strange. It seems that it would be very annoying having a four inch device
> sticking out of the USB port of a laptop while holding the computer on
> your lap in the airport. I really cannot imagine how it wouldn't be a
> problem. I need to go see one of these devices at the Sprint Store.

That is what I was going to say, check it out.  I will admit having a slot
card is less obtrusive, it comes down to comfort, if it is a problem, I
understand.   For me its not an issue, for others it is.  Check it out and
the Novetel which is alittle smaller.
Mij Adyaw - 25 May 2007 08:13 GMT
I wonder why it is so big? Does it have an internal battery that needs to be
charged, or does it get its power from the USB connection on the laptop?

>> That is gigantic! I wonder why it is so darn large? That is really
>> strange. It seems that it would be very annoying having a four inch
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> understand.   For me its not an issue, for others it is.  Check it out and
> the Novetel which is alittle smaller.
Michael Paris - 26 May 2007 05:02 GMT
>I wonder why it is so big? Does it have an internal battery that needs to
>be charged, or does it get its power from the USB connection on the laptop?

Yes it has a battery and it does both, so if you're charging your notebook,
its charging the adaptor, if not, less power is being drained under battery
conditions because the 595u is powering itself.

Best thing to do is go and see it upfront and personal, if you think its too
big, so be it.
 
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