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nativenyerintexas - 17 Jul 2007 10:54 GMT
Has anyone gotten the notice that Sprint decided to change their billing
date? For the six years I've been with Sprint my billing date has been the
26th of the month, last month I got a notice saying it will now be on the
13th. I'm on a limited, structured income and can't deal with another bill
during the beginning of the month so I called them. I was told they would
bill the discounted amount, $30.21 that day (June 25th) and bill the rest of
it, $47.97, next month on July 26th and would change my billing date back to
the 26th. Needless to say this wasn't done and I was billed for both the
same day, the 26th of June. When I found out I called them and told them
they needed to 'refund' the $47.97 because living on a structured income I
don't have any money to spare each month and I had just wrote a check for my
rent and it will not clear if the money is not refunded to the account. I
was transferred to three people within an hour and had to explain the ordeal
to each one and finally got a woman who said she arranged for a refund, not
a credit. Well, that was a lie too, it turned out it was a credit. I called
basically screaming asking why I've been lied to. I spent another hour on
the phone with multiple CRSs and supervisors in the customer care and
customer finance departments. The last one said she'll call me back, which
she did and told me she couldn't do anything. Unacceptable I told her. I was
told 10 business days ago that it was done and now you tell me it can't be.
I had to borrow money to allow my rent check to clear from Sprint's screw
up. I guess being a good customer for six years doesn't mean anything to
them. Another hour on the phone being transferred all over creation, I
finally got a supervisor that said he'd refund my money. This was this past
Friday and the money hit my account yesterday. Does anyone think they might
cancel my account now that they've been doing this with problem customers? I
haven't complained in a very long time to Sprint and for the most part I
don't really call them. The last time was back in February when I re-newed
my contract. The main reason I ask is 1) they always say they can't make
refunds and now they did, 2) the refund hit my account in one business day
(my bank is closed on Saturday anyway) and 3) I can't access my billing and
payment information on their website, it logs me out. I was thinking since
they changed my billing date I might not be able to access their website but
the last CSR I spoke assured me it was a wireless web problem. I told her I
was accessing the website from my desktop computer so why would a wireless
web problem affect my access... and only to my billing information?

What gives Sprint the right to change people's billing date to their
convenience?

I spent over three hours on the phone with them to get their f**k up
rectified and now I'm worried they'll cancel my service because of it. Any
other phone carrier doesn't offer what I have now for the same price: $40
for 1,000 minutes, N&W start at 8 and free Internet. ATT&T wants that amount
of money just for data on their Treo phones (I have a Treo 650).
Bill Marriott - 17 Jul 2007 11:52 GMT
nativenyerintexas:

> [description of billing saga]
> Does anyone think they might
> cancel my account now that they've been doing this with problem customers?

I don't think you have to be worried about your account being canceled. The
people affected by that were the worst 1000 offenders, people who called in
more than 90 times over a six-month period requesting various and sundry
perks and credits. Scam artists. Not to minimize the difficulty you faced,
but it doesn't approach that level. Not even close.

These days, writing in via email is the most effective way to deal with
Sprint. This way you have a record of everything you have requested and they
have promised. It's not "instant gratification" but it is usually more
reliable and efficient. You can take the time to explain your situation
clearly and describe exactly what you want to have happen. There are no
transfers or waiting on hold. No need for screaming or emotions. No language
barriers with offshore support reps. In the end, I've found it takes much
less time.

The other thing I would note is that while you're receiving your bills on a
different day of the month, you still are in control of the date that you
PAY them. My bills come in on the 23rd and I have until the 20th for them to
receive payment. I don't know if that's the same for every Sprint customer,
but unless you're already waiting till the last minute, you could likely pay
your bills the same time as you always did without a problem.

I'm also curious why they would need to "refund" you money unless you
already paid the bill.

The billing system is definitely the worst aspect of doing business with
Sprint and I've also been in situations where they make a change and the
site is not available (or at least not accurate) for an entire billing
cycle. The least little thing upsets the house of cards. It seems they
should be able to do MUCH better (but then again, I've never had to build a
system to handle tens of millions of customers).

Hope the situation is worked out, or will work itself out by your next bill.
Good luck.
nativenyerintexas - 18 Jul 2007 13:00 GMT
> nativenyerintexas:
>
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> barriers with offshore support reps. In the end, I've found it takes much
> less time.

The email address I had for tem not longer works. Plus, it was a matter of
getting this instance taken care of quickly due to my rent check not
clearing the bank on time. Had I not borrowed money it would not have
cleared. I should not have had to inconvenience my friends due to Sprint's
mistake.

> The other thing I would note is that while you're receiving your bills on a
> different day of the month, you still are in control of the date that you
> PAY them. My bills come in on the 23rd and I have until the 20th for them to
> receive payment. I don't know if that's the same for every Sprint customer,
> but unless you're already waiting till the last minute, you could likely pay
> your bills the same time as you always did without a problem.

I was on automatic billing but I since turned that feature off.  I usually
pay my bills as soon as they come in because I don't want to be late on
anything. If I don't pay them right away I might forget until it's too late.

> I'm also curious why they would need to "refund" you money unless you
> already paid the bill.

Because I didn't want my rent check to bouce. Living on Worker's Compy
doesn't give much leeway when it comes to paying bills. Everything has a
certain date that I can pay it.

> The billing system is definitely the worst aspect of doing business with
> Sprint and I've also been in situations where they make a change and the
> site is not available (or at least not accurate) for an entire billing
> cycle. The least little thing upsets the house of cards. It seems they
> should be able to do MUCH better (but then again, I've never had to build a
> system to handle tens of millions of customers).

This is what I was thinking and has been that way in the past. I thought
they might have fixed that glitch but I guess not.

> Hope the situation is worked out, or will work itself out by your next bill.
> Good luck.

Me too. As I said, no other company offers anyting even close to what I'm
getting at Sprint. Verizon wants $80 a month for a data plan on a Treo...
what's that about? When I was with Nextel in the summer of 04 they charged
me $50 for voice and $50 for data per month, with taxes and fees my bill was
about $120 a month. The voice was only 250 outgoing minutes, which most of
my calls are. Sprint, 1,000 minutes and free data for $40, with taxes and
fees, just under $48 a month. Can't beat that with a stick. But if I have to
leave, I'll ake due and it won't be my decidion unless they keep up with the
BS I just had to deal with. I made it clear I wouldn't even pay the ETF. The
way I see it, let them put a bad mark on my credit report, at that point I
can dispute it legally and they're left holding the candle.

Thanks fr the input.
Bill Marriott - 18 Jul 2007 15:17 GMT
native,

> The email address I had for them not longer works. Plus, it was a matter
> of
> getting this instance taken care of quickly due to my rent check not
> clearing the bank on time. Had I not borrowed money it would not have
> cleared. I should not have had to inconvenience my friends due to Sprint's
> mistake.

When I suggest to contact Sprint "by email" I don't mean to initiate a
message directly from your mail client. Instead, use the form on the Sprint
web site for submitting customer service inquiries:

On the current site, you click "Contact Us" at the very top. Then you click
the "email us" link under the "Send an email" heading at the top of the
popup window.

After you fill out the form, you will receive within a couple minutes a
confirmation email with a copy of the message you wrote and a tracking code.
Then you'll hear back from Sprint in short order with their reply. I've
never had it take more than 48 hours to get a response, and it's usually
much faster (like, same day).

As you saw, the confusion and lack of confirmation/evidence that results
from handling things over the telephone can mean it actually takes LONGER to
reach resolution that way. For me, it certainly takes less time and
aggravation to type all the details out and send it off than to dial a
number, go through the voice prompts, supply my name address and password,
explain the situation to a representative who does not speak English
natively, get put on hold, get an unsatisfying answer, be transferred, get
dropped, call back, ad nauseum. It's literally like 5 minutes versus 30
minutes.

Most importantly, I have a record of what I requested and exactly what
Sprint promised. If there is confusion, it's either my fault for not stating
the matter properly, or Sprint's fault for not following through. If there
is any mistake, I can forward them their own message(s). I still have the
option of replying to the response or calling in if I can't resolve it
through email.

I know what you're saying about the urgent matter of your rent check and
bank balance, but refunds take days to process in the best circumstances, so
I'd just as soon have an important matter like that in writing.

> I was on automatic billing but I since turned that feature off.  I usually
> pay my bills as soon as they come in because I don't want to be late on
> anything. If I don't pay them right away I might forget until it's too
> late.

The way I handle automatic payment for all companies with predictable
amounts/cycles is to initiate the payment from my BANK's free "BillPay"
feature. This way I'm in control of what gets sent out and when. If there
should be a circumstance, such as yours, where the bill goes up unexpectedly
or changes dates, my bank account is not hit with an unpleasant surprise. I
can always augment the amount, if needed, by an additional payment (made
either online or through traditional means). I never authorize a company to
initiate automatic withdrawals from my account if I can help it.

By the way, in checking the steps to submit an email request for this post,
I saw Sprint is now offering 50 additional minutes plus including unlimited
Sprint-to-Sprint calls for the same price as my current plan, so I just sent
them an email inquiring about changing to this plan. Took me just 5 minutes.
nativenyerintexas - 19 Jul 2007 11:58 GMT
> When I suggest to contact Sprint "by email" I don't mean to initiate a
> message directly from your mail client. Instead, use the form on the Sprint
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> the "email us" link under the "Send an email" heading at the top of the
> popup window.

I don't normally login to my account onlie because I never really had to.
I'll make note that in the future I should at least try it your way if I
have any other issues. Thanks for the heads up.

<snip>

> The way I handle automatic payment for all companies with predictable
> amounts/cycles is to initiate the payment from my BANK's free "BillPay"
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> either online or through traditional means). I never authorize a company to
> initiate automatic withdrawals from my account if I can help it.

My bank doesn't offer Bill Pay on their site with their free checking so
I'll just pay myself the old fashion way, login to their site and pay using
my debit or credit card. I do this with my electric, cable and JC Penney
credit card so it's no big deal to do it with one more account. The only
thing I have on automatic payment now is my newsgroup access (Flash
Newsgroups) and Vonage, both are under $20 a month.

> By the way, in checking the steps to submit an email request for this post,
> I saw Sprint is now offering 50 additional minutes plus including unlimited
> Sprint-to-Sprint calls for the same price as my current plan, so I just sent
> them an email inquiring about changing to this plan. Took me just 5 minutes.

Thanks again for the advice. It's much appreciated.
dafydd - 20 Jul 2007 11:27 GMT
Here is the email address if you would like to contact them from your
email client: ecare@cc.sprintpcs.com

Along with your detailed discription of what needs to be done, please
include the following:

Sprint phone number
Billing address as it appears on the account
Email address as it appears on the account

That way, you do not have to receive an email back from them
requesting this information.

Typically, you will hear back from them within 24-48 hours, however
with the recent changes in the billing system, occasionally
there will be misroutings that happen, and it 1st gets sent to a
depatment that does not have access yet to the new billing system.
When this happens, it can take an additional 48 hours, for an agent in
the correct department to get it.

FYI for emails sent to Sprint that are of a technical nature rather
than billing related, send the email to:
SprintTechnicalSupport@sprint.com

A friend on the inside.

On Jul 19, 5:58 am, "nativenyerintexas" <nativenyerintexas @yahoo.com>
wrote:

> > When I suggest to contact Sprint "by email" I don't mean to initiate a
> > message directly from your mail client. Instead, use the form on the
[quoted text clipped - 42 lines]
>
> Thanks again for the advice. It's much appreciated.
nativenyerintexas - 22 Jul 2007 08:01 GMT
That's the email address I had. I got a message back a few months ago that
it was invalid so I tossed it. Anyway, I'll try it again, thanks.

> Here is the email address if you would like to contact them from your
> email client: ecare@cc.sprintpcs.com
[quoted text clipped - 71 lines]
> >
> > Thanks again for the advice. It's much appreciated.
 
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