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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Sprint PCS / February 2008How can I get off the tracking system?
Our boss tracks our movements by checking where our cell phone is. Even with the Locator in the off position they can find out where we are with some kind of locator device in the main office. How can I make my phone "track-proof"? Not trying to get away with anything. Just trying to get them off my shoulder with every move I make. > Our boss tracks our movements by checking where our cell phone is. > Even with the Locator in the off position they can find out where we are [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Not trying to get away with anything. Just trying to get them off my > shoulder with every move I make. Is there any reason you can't just turn the cell phone off? >> Our boss tracks our movements by checking where our cell phone is. >> Even with the Locator in the off position they can find out where we are [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Is there any reason you can't just turn the cell phone off? They tell me that turning off the phone does not work. I was told to take the battery out so that no signal could be sent or received but I need it to work. I think I might do the forwarding thing to another cell phone. I can get on the phone service with my wife. > They tell me that turning off the phone does not work. "They" used to tell me Santa knew when I was sleeping and knew when I was awake too. Sometimes it just takes a little white lie to get people to behave the way you want. > I was told to take the battery out so that no signal could be sent or > received but I need it to work. > I think I might do the forwarding thing to another cell phone. I can get on > the phone service with my wife. Or, just as a crazy alternative, you could always just be where the company wants/expects you to be when you're on the clock... >> They tell me that turning off the phone does not work. > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Or, just as a crazy alternative, you could always just be where the > company wants/expects you to be when you're on the clock... I was going to mention that, but figured that pointing out the responsibility to someone paying your bills might be received with some indignation. >> They tell me that turning off the phone does not work. > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > company > wants/expects you to be when you're on the clock... I think I have been misunderstood and I could go into a long explanation but I have been with the company for over 7-1/2 years and doing my job well. On the rare occasion that I need to do paperwork and would really like to be done with that paperwork before 5 PM, I need to go home to my office. It is the company's opinion that we should spend more time in the field selling. They track our movements by phone and when the phone and call report does not coincide, (even though you actually were in the other city and mad the calls) they ding you for being home too early. This is why even though I am doing my job I can get in trouble based on where the phone tracking says I am. > report does not coincide, (even though you actually were in the other city > and mad the calls) they ding you for being home too early. > This is why even though I am doing my job I can get in trouble based on > where the phone tracking says I am. Get a new job.  SignatureSteve Sobol, Victorville, CA PGP:0xE3AE35ED www.SteveSobol.com Geek-for-hire. Details: http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevesobol >> report does not coincide, (even though you actually were in the other >> city [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Get a new job. Yes, that would be one solution. Anyone out there need a 60 year old salesman? No, I thought not. >>> report does not coincide, (even though you actually were in the other >>> city [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> >> Get a new job. > Yes, that would be one solution. > Anyone out there need a 60 year old salesman? > No, I thought not. I'd agree. That probably puts you at a disadvantage. It just sounds like one guy I worked for who didn't trust me, who micromanaged the hell out of me. He'd been screwed over before, but to be honest, he was a lousy manager. Thought he could walk on water, too, thought he never did anything wrong, but all of the employees that left him said otherwise (and there were MANY). SignatureSteve Sobol, Victorville, CA PGP:0xE3AE35ED www.SteveSobol.com Geek-for-hire. Details: http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevesobol > >> report does not coincide, (even though you actually were in the other > >> city [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > No, I thought not. DOUBT YOU COULD SELL A $100.00 FOR .25 > Our boss tracks our movements by checking where our cell phone is. > Even with the Locator in the off position they can find out where we are > with some kind of locator device in the main office. I assume they're using an LBS (location-based service) offered by the carrier. > How can I make my phone "track-proof"? You can't. You COULD, however, forward your business phone to your personal one, and shut off the work phone and "fall off the grid..." ...and into an unemployment office, most likely. > Not trying to get away with anything. Just trying to get them off my > shoulder with every move I make. Do you use a company vehicle? There's a possbility that they just tell you they're tracking your phone, but are actually tracking the vehicle. Vehicle locators are running about the same $$$/month as cell tracking these days, and they still work even if you turn the phone off! Plus it has the added benefit of locating stolen vehicles, which protects a larger asset than tracking a stolen phone or errant employee. ;-) >> Our boss tracks our movements by checking where our cell phone is. >> Even with the Locator in the off position they can find out where we are [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > has the added benefit of locating stolen vehicles, which protects a larger > asset than tracking a stolen phone or errant employee. ;-) Doesn't tracking the vehicle require some sort of chip or gps locator? They tell us it is not the car it is the phone. > Doesn't tracking the vehicle require some sort of chip or gps locator? Yes. I suppose you could search the car if you don't trust them. > They tell us it is not the car it is the phone. I realize that. I'm just saying "anything is possible." > > Doesn't tracking the vehicle require some sort of chip or gps locator? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I realize that. I'm just saying "anything is possible." All I know that it has been around for some years now, and I don't believe the service is vey expensive (?). > >> Our boss tracks our movements by checking where our cell phone is. > >> Even with the Locator in the off position they can find out where we are [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Doesn't tracking the vehicle require some sort of chip or gps locator? > They tell us it is not the car it is the phone. All you need to do is GOOGLING for something like "cell phone tracking" or similar then you don't need to ask or wait for answer because I don't think many people have much or any experience to share with you. > >> Our boss tracks our movements by checking where our cell phone is. > >> Even with the Locator in the off position they can find out where we are [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I CAN SEE WHY THEY WOULD TRACK YOU, ANYONE THAT KNOWS YOU ANY AT ALL KNOWS THIS WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA > Our boss tracks our movements by checking where our cell phone is. > Even with the Locator in the off position they can find out where we are [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Not trying to get away with anything. Just trying to get them off my > shoulder with every move I make. Turn in your company-paid phone, use your personal phone for company business and restrict who can access the locator info of your personal phone. >Our boss tracks our movements by checking where our cell phone is. >Even with the Locator in the off position they can find out where we are >with some kind of locator device in the main office. >How can I make my phone "track-proof"? Remove the battery. Put the phone in a blender. > Our boss tracks our movements by checking where our cell phone is. > Even with the Locator in the off position they can find out where we are [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Not trying to get away with anything. Just trying to get them off my > shoulder with every move I make. It really all depends on what service they are using. As you are only posting this to alt.cellular.sprintpcs, I am going to asume that you all have sprint or nextel devices. Sprint's Precision Locator Service or Mobile Locator as I believe it has been changed to does require that the device be turned on [at least occording to the information that we are given]. So as was stated earlier, turning the device off 'Should' work. however, don't you think it might look a little suspicious you simply dropping off the grid? Especially when the company only has to look at a coverage map to see that where you were last seen and the area all around it should have great coverage? Just a thought. > Our boss tracks our movements by checking where our cell phone is. > Even with the Locator in the off position they can find out where we are > with some kind of locator device in the main office. > > How can I make my phone "track-proof"? My understanding is that you can become track-proof by turning the phone off and removing thr battery. If you need to receive calls, you can always forward your calls to another cell phone (you could get a Trac Phone or a Go Phone from AT&T, for example), but that would probably entail being charged per-call forwarding charges on your Sprint phone. But you would, at least, be track-proof! All you would need to do is figure out how to explain to your boss why your office cannot track your whereabouts any more . . . The rumor has circulated at my office that my employer is utilizing the tracking option for our Nextel service. However, I have not signed any consent. (In Maryland and most states a consent must be signed by the employee) I have turned off the locator. Should my employer make this an issue he is liable for invasion of privacy. I am a commission paid sales rep. I do my job and am where I am "supposed to be" I simply find the whole 24 hour surveillance thing very creepy. I will not agree to be monitored. If my sales are too low, that should be the issue. If they are acceptable or better, who cares where I am! As to the creepy part, who has access to the tracking website and who can hack it... I am also considering forwarding my business call to my personal cell. Just my 2 cents. >> Our boss tracks our movements by checking where our cell phone is. >> Even with the Locator in the off position they can find out where we are [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > figure out how to explain to your boss why your office cannot track your > whereabouts any more . . . > The rumor has circulated at my office that my employer is utilizing the > tracking option for our Nextel service. And that's exactly what it is--a rumor. >> The rumor has circulated at my office that my employer is utilizing the >> tracking option for our Nextel service. > > And that's exactly what it is--a rumor. If she asks them to sign a written statement that she won't be tracked without being notified and a consent form issued, she'll be able to get some idea of whether her employer is already doing it, not doing it but perhaps thinking about it, or not planning to do it at all. Any employer who tells you, "no, you aren't being tracked and we won't do so without obtaining your prior written consent" but refuses to put that in writing is not one anyone should work for if they have the option to find employment elsewhere. >The rumor has circulated at my office that my employer is utilizing the >tracking option for our Nextel service. However, I have not signed any >consent. (In Maryland and most states a consent must be signed by the >employee) I have turned off the locator. Should my employer make this an >issue he is liable for invasion of privacy. You need to get back on your medication. > The rumor has circulated at my office that my employer is utilizing > the tracking option for our Nextel service. However, I have not [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I am also considering forwarding my business call to my personal cell. > Just my 2 cents. Actually, there is no such regulation in the State of Maryland. >> The rumor has circulated at my office that my employer is utilizing >> the tracking option for our Nextel service. However, I have not [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> I am also considering forwarding my business call to my personal cell. >> Just my 2 cents. >Actually, there is no such regulation in the State of Maryland. no such tracking or tracking website either >> The rumor has circulated at my office that my employer is utilizing >> the tracking option for our Nextel service. However, I have not [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Actually, there is no such regulation in the State of Maryland. LOL! Whaddaya want to bet that the rumor was started by coworkers who want to bring a slacker in line to start pulling their weight? |
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