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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Sprint PCS / February 2008Palm Centro under Sprint .. You Tube? Web based mpegs?
Any comments on this phone? Can it watch You Tube seamlessly like the iphone through Sprint? What about mpeg videos from the net seamlessly? Is the Sprint TV package worth it? any chance it gets msnbc? yahoo messenger? realtime yahoo mail? gmail? Thanks for any help or information! > Any comments on this phone? > > Can it watch You Tube seamlessly like the iphone through Sprint? It works the same as my Treo 700P did. You Tube looks just fine. g > > Any comments on this phone? > > > Can it watch You Tube seamlessly like the iphone through Sprint? > > It works the same as my Treo 700P did. You Tube looks just fine. > g you go straight to the youtube site? you don't have to download the video to view it like on the iphone? what about other sites with short mpeg links? Thanks. >>> Any comments on this phone? >>> Can it watch You Tube seamlessly like the iphone through Sprint? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > you go straight to the youtube site? you don't have to download the > video to view it like on the iphone? Exactly. It streams to your Treo just as on a PC. Your Centro ought to have the required application already installed. > what about other sites with short mpeg links? Good question. It appears to try to handle some mp4, wmv, and mpeg links -- but I haven't had any luck with them. > you go straight to the youtube site? you don't have to download the > video to view it like on the iphone? Yep, I just point it at the site. > what about other sites with short mpeg links? I put Kinoma player on it and just about everything goes just fine. The "WiFi" realtime web cams sometimes are a bit much for it but most of the time they work pretty well too. Traffic cams and such generally are fine and the traffic flow looks smooth for the most part (barring grid lock (:>) ) g nice. I just ordered the centro through sprint. Will try it out and see/ I heard I will be able to tether as modem under the $15 plan with some software. Also wondering, will i be able to email using multiple yahoo and gmail accounts? Will the device let me manage those email accounts in a logical way? Will emails come in fast? push? Yahoo messenger? Universal messenger? Any way to secure or hide specific aps? Hot key custom aps? These two items bothered me about my blackberry 8700. I'm switching to sprint from tmo for the faster network, sprint tv and a device that can actually play video. The Curve claims it can, but not very naturally. Oh, 6pm night option also a major plus. I've never used a Palm before so will see how that goes. also, I was wondering if when tethered as a modem for a laptop is connection good enough to see tv on the laptop? play internet mpeg videos on the laptop? thanks. > I heard I will be able to tether as modem under the $15 plan with some > software. Not true. Its $49.99/month: http://support.sprint.com/doc/sp10397.xml?docid=8785 Don't be like the nimrods in these videos: http://tinyurl.com/2nbcwb A lot of the responsibility is on the vendor providing the electronic service to make sure they adequately secure it and provide the legal disclaimer while entering a pay per use service. If you happen to figure out that taking a cardboard box, a paper clip and some used bubble gum that you can get Satellite reception and watch CNN is that theft? BTW, according to Sprint Sales, the Centro is not modem enabled so you should not select the modem option.. That's what they told me online. Of course that's likely not true. > I heard I will be able to tether as modem under the $15 plan with some > software. *Technically*, yes, you can do this... but in case you're not aware of it, you *will* be in violation of your contract with Sprint while doing so, which leaves you open to being charged the "casual" rate for data (it's pretty high -- some dollars per megabyte) or your contract being cancelled. Many people do make occasional usage of tethering and with limited usage Sprint doesn't seem to do anything about it; just be sure you know what the risks are. Sprint definitely *will* do something if you, e.g., try to use your phone to replace a regular ISP and start downloading many hundreds of megabytes per month. *Technically*, yes, you can do this... but in case you're not aware of it, you > *will* be in violation of your contract with Sprint while doing so, which > leaves you open to being charged the "casual" rate for data (it's pretty > high -- some dollars per megabyte) or your contract being cancelled. I am not sure what exchange they are using in the country you are in, but the charge for casual data usage is $00.03 per kilobyte. That translates into 3 cents per kilobyte USD, not some dollars. However, as the centro is a power vision device, it can use kilobytes at a fairly high rate. It is capped though for the customer's own protection at $75 max for a month currently, so even without a data plan that would be the most you would pay regardless of the amount of kilobytes, or megabytes used. It is correct however that the best way to go is to just pay the $39.99 or $49.99 a month for the Phone as Modem attachment in place of the $15 unlimited non tethered plan. This way if you are using it as a modem for your PC you are not viotating any terms of service agreement. > fairly high rate. It is capped though for the > customer's own protection at $75 max for a month currently, so even Nice. That's very fair of them. > *Technically*, yes, you can do this... but in case you're not aware of > it, you [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > data usage is $00.03 per kilobyte. That translates into 3 cents per > kilobyte USD, not some dollars. $0.03 per kilobyte is $30/megabyte, which is what was stated ("some dollars per megabyte"). On Feb 18, 2:45 pm, "Joel Koltner" <zapwireDASHgro...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > *Technically*, yes, you can do this... but in case you're not aware of > > it, you [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > $0.03 per kilobyte is $30/megabyte, which is what was stated ("some dollars > per megabyte"). I apologize, I completely misread megabytes as kilobytes in the previous post I should drink at least one cup of coffee before reading my newsgroups. [and possibly have my glasses checked.] :-) "I apologize, I completely misread megabytes as kilobytes in the previous post" No problem at all, I was actually a little surprised at just how high it is... on EVDO, you can download a megabyte in something well under a minute, right? $30/minute... yikes! On Feb 19, 11:54 am, "Joel Koltner" <zapwireDASHgro...@yahoo.com> wrote: > "I apologize, I completely misread megabytes as kilobytes in the > previous post" > > No problem at all, I was actually a little surprised at just how high it is... > on EVDO, you can download a megabyte in something well under a minute, right? > $30/minute... yikes! It does go at a fairly quick clip. If you have a decent signal on EVDO you should avg between 400 - 700 kilobits per second. Okay just got the Palm Centro from Sprint. Some things on the phone I just find odd and bordering on stupid compared to Blackberry. And perhaps I just haven't figured out the phone yet. It took customer support (India) about 40 minutes on the phone to activate the phone. It was ridiculous I had to call back 3 times to 3 different agents. My opinion, the two must important features on a phone are the BACK and RETURN buttons. On this phone, those buttons are tiny and way too far on the lower right for single hand use. Also, many of the features on the phone, like the password lock, require a separate okay button after an entry...WHY? what should just be keys followed by enter now requires navigate and press a button. If thats how it works.. that sucks frankly. The phone offered a download for web mail setup. I set up my yahoo account, and can see attatched files in emails but no way to download or view them?? huh? I have a password on the phone, how do I manually force lock the phone? Web navigation is terrible. Blackberry Curve and 8700 blow it away. Do I have to use the stylus to select text?? I hate using a Stylus. Try using one while driving lol. How do you copy and paste? The navigation button rim is god aweful, after using it for a while it gets worse. It's a tiny rim of the giant button. Maybe there away to map some of the other ap buttons. Sometimes there are great select buttons like refresh on screen but they are often so tiny you must use the stylus for them. duh. Ports on the phone are proprietary.. audio, power, etc. WHY NOT BE STANDARD ?? The keyboard is simply too small for human use. No way to hide or password specific applications. That said, and it's enough to send her back, here's the good news (my opinion).. Sprint's network is VERY fast and great for media. Youtube works flawlessly. CNN live on sprintTV is flat out cool. Blackberry can't do that.. at least not naturally without a passthrough site. I was able to surf web sites with .mpeg and other videos and it downloaded fast and played them in very nice quality. Media organization seemed very designed. picture quality seemed good enough, though no flash.. Blackberry Curve's flash is awsome and takes a good enough pic that you can take a pic of sheet of paper with text on it at night and be able to read the pic. It's got video recorder, BB does not. And the Video seems pretty good. Some times you need to video things. GPS. I'm yet to try it out, but will before my return deadline. Added charge, but this might sway me to keep it. Overall, the I hate the ergonomics and think some of the ap interfaces are stupid. Network speed and media on the phone is tough to beat. Other phones I would consider under Sprint (because of network): Moto Q - Keys seem slippery and tough. Windows mobile sucks. HTC Mogul - bad reviews. windows mobile again. Their Blackberry phone - the phone they carry does not have a Querty keyboard which is a must. I guess you can't have it all. Wildman, > I guess you can't have it all. Indeed. Did you look at the Treos while you were at a Sprint store? They address the problem of the keys being a little too tiny for (most) people to use... and overall the (somewhat) bigger Treo seems somewhat sturdier than a Centro. On the other hand, it also costs 3x as much! :-( > Wildman, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > use... and overall the (somewhat) bigger Treo seems somewhat sturdier than a > Centro. On the other hand, it also costs 3x as much! :-( Not if you're careful. I paid around $200 for a Sprint Treo 700P on eBay. It was either new or refurbed to the point of being indistinguishable from new. I've been happily using it for around a year. The centro was -$49 after rebates on amazon with a two year contract. But likely still going back. More questions. How do you force the web mail to push/pull. It took 15 minutes to get a test email. How do you zoom when viewing a pic? How do you force video to play in loop? It's not an intuitive phone. Keyboard too small. Navigation Terrible. Stylus required means it can never be single handed. On screen buttons often too small. No push email for yahoo and other web mails. But sprints network is SOOOO fast and the devices media player works so damn nice it's tempting to keep. FYI - Rumer has it T-mobile will be going 3G this summer and they will come out with a 3G blackberry predicted to be the iPhone killer.. not that iPhone is any good for email or business with its on screen keyboard. I will wait for that. I'm hoping Blackberry and T-mo finally get in the game with a phone that can YouTube, and view other popular internet videos and streams (msnbc,cnn,etc). Another T-mo phone that will likely go 3G (and considered a toy today) is the sidekick. Probaby the most comfortable and ergonomic phone in the market - If it has push email and can play online video it will be worth a look as well. Thanks. Thanks. > Okay just got the Palm Centro from Sprint. Some things on the phone I > The phone offered a download for web mail setup. I set up my yahoo > account, and can see attatched files in emails but no way to download > or view them?? huh? Try highlighting the attachment and hitting the center navigation button. It should pass the attachement to the document viewer or open it up, if it's an image. That's what mine does anyway. > Web navigation is terrible. Blackberry Curve and 8700 blow it away. Do > I have to use the stylus to select text?? I hate using a Stylus. Try > using one while driving lol. How do you copy and paste? I think you want need to use 'info-K' (info is lower right key) combination to bring up the screen keyboard. Copy and paste are the normal way with the 'ctl' key (lower left) and 'c' or 'v' or 'x' > The keyboard is simply too small for human use. You're probably right, but the whole thing *does* fit in my pant's pocket. > GPS. I'm yet to try it out, but will before my return deadline. Added > charge, but this might sway me to keep it. I ended up getting a $60 BT GPS receiver that works fine with it. DeLorme and others have fancier stuff, both receivers and mapping, at a price. Google mapping works fine but last I looked requires a separate app (e.g. Where Am I?) to read the receiver and get a flag on the map. Only the expensive stuff seems to map real time with all the routing, velocity etc. > I guess you can't have it all. Probably not. I have to put on my glasses anytime I want to use it (or any phone of that size). Still, as you suggest, the price/performance is pretty good. g |
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