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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Sprint PCS / October 2008Comcast dumping newsgroup access
I just received an email from Comcast announcing their end of newsgroup access (offering only a promotional deal through "giganews" as a parting gift). Email from Comcast... > Dear Comcast High-Speed Internet Customer: > > As of October 25, 2008, the complimentary Comcast Newsgroups service, > powered by Giganews, will be discontinued. This feature provided > customers access to 2 gigabytes of newsgroup information on a monthly > basis. After this date, these customers will no longer be able to access > the > Comcast Newsgroups service through Comcast. Customers who have > subscribed directly to Giganews for newsgroup access will not be affected > by this change. > > While we have seen a decline in popularity of newsgroups as customers have > chosen to get information from other sources, we know a small percentage > of our customers continue to use newsgroups today. If you are interested > in > continuing to access newsgroups, Giganews is offering a special promotion > for Comcast customers. Click here to learn more. > > Thank you for being a valued customer. " Ugh...well, I guess the writing was on the wall when other ISPs started dropping newsgroup access, but Comcast dropping it will surely big a big loss for the newsgroup community. I guess a lot of us will have to switch to web based community boards (assuming we don't want to pay for a newsgroup service). Anyone want to offer up a decent new online discussion location for alt.cellular.sprintpcs? Maybe http://www.sprintusers.com/ ? - anthonyx26 > I just received an email from Comcast announcing their end of newsgroup > access (offering only a promotional deal through "giganews" as a parting [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > offer up a decent new online discussion location for alt.cellular.sprintpcs? > Maybe http://www.sprintusers.com/ ? Why not just switch to one of the numerous free or paid Usenet services? http://blinkynet.net/comp/newfeed.html  SignatureDutch Sprint/Motorola RAZR V3m tethered to PCLinuxOS 2008 > I just received an email from Comcast announcing their end of newsgroup > access (offering only a promotional deal through "giganews" as a parting > gift). Old news...........;0) > I guess a lot of us will have to switch to web based community boards > (assuming we don't want to pay for a newsgroup service). Anyone want to > offer up a decent new online discussion location for alt.cellular.sprintpcs? > Maybe http://www.sprintusers.com/ ? > > - anthonyx26 Nope.........Text only service here is free & plugs into newsreaders: http://news.motzarella.org/ Works very well. I'm well aware of alternative means of accessing newsgroups. Unfortunately, it's the overall effect of Comcast and various other large ISPs shutting down access to newsgroups which will continue the downward spiral of users actually _using_ and viewing newsgroups. The great part about newsgroups has always been that they've provided a critical mass of end user participation (with relatively low "noise"). Fewer and fewer users means the value they're providing is dwindling whereas other end user forums are increasing in user numbers and hence increasing in value. While I don't like the commerical "fluff" advertisements that many web based forums have it can be tolerated as long as the volume of user--to-user communication is high and is of high quality. - anthonyx26 >> I just received an email from Comcast announcing their end of newsgroup >> access (offering only a promotional deal through "giganews" as a parting [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Works very well. >I'm well aware of alternative means of accessing newsgroups. Unfortunately, >it's the overall effect of Comcast and various other large ISPs shutting [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >the value they're providing is dwindling whereas other end user forums are >increasing in user numbers and hence increasing in value. I only see fewer idiots using usenet, the kind of people who think usenet is a web services and that messages in mime/html with attachments is reasonable. Comcast is well known for having herds of infected machines spewing spam into their servers. Comcast dropping usenet can only be an improvement. > >I'm well aware of alternative means of accessing newsgroups. Unfortunately, > >it's the overall effect of Comcast and various other large ISPs shutting [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > spam into their servers. Comcast dropping usenet can only be an > improvement. Lets hope. > >> I just received an email from Comcast announcing their end of newsgroup > >> access (offering only a promotional deal through "giganews" as a parting [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > > > Works very well. > In article <Hb6dnS_359KvqXjVnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@comcast.com>, anthonyx26@gmail.com says... > I'm well aware of alternative means of accessing newsgroups. Unfortunately, > it's the overall effect of Comcast and various other large ISPs shutting [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > - anthonyx26 Wasn't questioning your awareness, just offering alternative as you mentioned web based access, I find them appalling. IMHO.......I'm glad ISP's cut off access. The very very very small population that even knows what newsgroups were won't be missed by me. Well, I think it's the users who brought down usenet, by commonly using the binary groups to distribute property they didn't have rights to distribute. That gave the ISPs the excuse they needed to eliminate newsgroup servers. Actually, I'm pretty happy using http://groups.google.com/ >Well, I think it's the users who brought down usenet, by commonly >using the binary groups to distribute property they didn't have rights >to distribute. That gave the ISPs the excuse they needed to eliminate >newsgroup servers. >Actually, I'm pretty happy using http://groups.google.com/ That's good as long as you're getting what you need. Personally, I've seen a growing segment of traditional Usenet users who are actively ignoring anything coming from Google Groups because the SNR is so poor. SignaturePaul Miner >>Well, I think it's the users who brought down usenet, by commonly >>using the binary groups to distribute property they didn't have rights [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >ignoring anything coming from Google Groups because the SNR is so >poor. Another NNTP based server is Altopia. $6/month with SSL and unlimited use. https://www.altopia.com/ Chris Caputo President, Altopia Corporation > >>Well, I think it's the users who brought down usenet, by commonly > >>using the binary groups to distribute property they didn't have rights [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Another NNTP based server is Altopia. $6/month with SSL and unlimited > use. For TEXT or light binary use I would suggest something like Astraweb block-account 110GB for $25. If you just use for TEXT only then your $25 would last couple lifetimes, for light binary use it would last for several months to year(s). > >Well, I think it's the users who brought down usenet, by commonly > >using the binary groups to distribute property they didn't have rights [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > ignoring anything coming from Google Groups because the SNR is so > poor. I agree that happens but trying to satisfy those "traditional Usenet users" by using something other than Google Groups might be a lost cause anyway. Besides, it is easy to use groups.google.com from a Sprint Mogul with WM6.0. With WM6.1 it is not so easy and that is part of the reason I went back to WM6.0 on my Mogul. FYI SNR = Signal to Noise Ratio Hi everyone: >> "ByTor" <ByTor@snowdog.com> wrote in message > > IMHO.......I'm glad ISP's cut off access. The very very very small > population that even knows what newsgroups were won't be missed by me. And most of us who don't amongst THAT group are usually people who don't monitor USENET on a regular basis for ANYTHING to begin with. We usually hang out on Yahoo! Groups and message boards, which aren't allowed to run rampant in a negative manner like some USENET groups are because they're moderated forums. And when we DO come onto USENET, we *don't* spew forth spam on the groups (Our reputations within moderated forum circles depend on that!). We use USENET for its intended purpose just like we do the moderated discussion forums we hang out on. :) When these undesirables spammers get on and spew forth spam, we're just as much of a victim of the rest of the "old-timers" who've been on USENET-only since the stone age (If not more so since those of us who don't frequent USENET as much as the "old-timers" are constantly given a black eye AND WE ARE TIRED OF IT. >:( ). Just my opinion..... Cheers :) Pat Cook Denver. Colorado > We usually > hang out on Yahoo! Groups and message boards, which aren't allowed to run > rampant in a negative manner like some USENET groups are because they're > moderated forums. Ummmm.....check that moderation. Usually it's overly moderated. In other words, most boards are run by idiots with a power complex. Elmo P. Shagnasty answered: >> We usually >> hang out on Yahoo! Groups and message boards, which aren't allowed to run [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Usually it's overly moderated. In other words, most boards are run by > idiots with a power complex. But thats a GOOD thing. It keeps the trolls and a.sholes OUT! SignatureErnie <The man on the hill with a mountainous load in his shorts> > Elmo P. Shagnasty answered: >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > But thats a GOOD thing. It keeps the trolls and a.sholes OUT! Trolls? Maybe. a.sholes? No- it just creates more. > > Elmo P. Shagnasty answered: > >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > a.sholes? No- it just creates more. You got that right because I've seen it happen myself. Basically, once the a.sholes on a moderated group jump to the wrong conclusions there is nothing at all you can do about their sh.t because the moderator won't let you do anything. > > Ummmm.....check that moderation. > > > > Usually it's overly moderated. In other words, most boards are run by > > idiots with a power complex. > > But thats a GOOD thing. It keeps the trolls and a.sholes OUT! yeah, but it twists the board into something only the moderator could love. He doesn't moderate by the usual sense of the word. >> We usually >> hang out on Yahoo! Groups and message boards, which aren't allowed to run [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Usually it's overly moderated. In other words, most boards are run by > idiots with a power complex. Hmmm...my biggest problem with moderators isn't so much that they clean out spam, it's that they feel the need to "move" threads to different forums (extremely annoying). OK...so what if it's slightly OT!!! A better option would be perhaps to _copy_ the thread to another forum (much like many users do here...replying to the original plus crossposting to another newsgroup). - anthonyx26 > Hmmm...my biggest problem with moderators isn't so much that they clean > out spam, it's that they feel the need to "move" threads to different > forums (extremely annoying). Reminds me of a post I made in some NG and used a "naughty" word commonly heard on TV, well...late night TV movies. Moderator deleted my post saying it was a family accessible NG. I replied that kids that read NG are at least in third grade, and mostly likely have already heard, if not used that word. >> Hmmm...my biggest problem with moderators isn't so much that they >> clean out spam, it's that they feel the need to "move" threads to [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I replied that kids that read NG are at least in third grade, and > mostly likely have already heard, if not used that word. That is the sad reality...most moderators are self-selected zealots and control freaks. That one sounds like the sort of controlling X-ian asswipe that needs to be chained and dragged behind a pickup truck. rabbits77 answered: > That is the sad reality...most moderators are self-selected zealots > and control freaks. That one sounds like the sort of controlling X-ian > asswipe > that needs to be chained and dragged behind a pickup truck. And YOU sound JUST like the trolls that get kicked off sites like that. GOOD RIDANCE you piece of sh.t. NO ONE wants people like you on them to begin with. f.ck OFF. HAHA > While I don't like the commerical "fluff" advertisements that many web > based forums have it can be tolerated as long as the volume of > user--to-user communication is high and is of high quality. That is part of why UseNet lost its appeal in the early 00s. After the big tech bust people realized that it was essentially impossible to "monetize" NNTP. The tricks "they" came up with such as web based readers that could show advertising or just spam bombing 50,000 groups at a time were such an abomination that it killed a lot of the traditional spirit of UseNet. Google groups and various spam fixes have helped in the long run. Many groups are now happily chugging along and picking up new regular users who are able to conversate in a civil manner. >> While I don't like the commerical "fluff" advertisements that many web >> based forums have it can be tolerated as long as the volume of >> user--to-user communication is high and is of high quality. > Google groups and various spam fixes have helped in the long run. Many > groups are now happily chugging along and picking up new regular users > who are able to conversate in a civil manner. Whoa..."conversate"...now there's a controversial word! Of course, the controversy questioning whether it is indeed a word at all. IMHO, it wreaks of one trying to make him/herself look smarter by making up some obscure-sounding word...and because no one really knows whether it's an actual accepted English word, no one calls the person out on it, they just let it slide. NOTE: From the rest of your verbiage, this doesn't sound like what you were doing. :-) - anthonyx26 >>> While I don't like the commerical "fluff" advertisements that many >>> web based forums have it can be tolerated as long as the volume of [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > they just let it slide. NOTE: From the rest of your verbiage, this > doesn't sound like what you were doing. :-) "conversate" is a perfectly fine and acceptable *slang* word. I feel comfortable using it in a technical news group. Maybe not so much in a group devoted to english literature, perhaps. Perhaps the several people that enjoy correcting grammar here can use those energies someplace where that sort of thing is more appreciated. > "conversate" is a perfectly fine and acceptable *slang* word. we be conversatin', beeotch! > Many > groups are now happily chugging along and picking up new regular users > who are able to conversate in a civil manner. dude....it's "converse". Not "conversate". People are morons. > > Many > > groups are now happily chugging along and picking up new regular users [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > People are morons. And yet you still conversate with us... ;-) Deprecate instead of conversate ;-) In article <gciuh4$a6k$1@aioe.org>, rabbits77 <rabbits77@my-deja.com> wrote: > Many > groups are now happily chugging along and picking up new regular users > who are able to conversate in a civil manner. dude....it's "converse". Not "conversate". People are morons. "conversate"? Are you a relative of GWB? hihi ByTor: Thanks for the recommendation. My first post using Motzarella :-) Bob > ByTor: > Thanks for the recommendation. > My first post using Motzarella :-) > Bob Yo welcome.........;0) > I just received an email from Comcast announcing their end of newsgroup > access (offering only a promotional deal through "giganews" as a parting [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I personally use goggle groups, and think it works just fine. If you have a wide screen monitor especially, what adds there are seem pretty unobtrusive. Hi everyone: > I just received an email from Comcast announcing their end of newsgroup > access (offering only a promotional deal through "giganews" as a parting > gift). > > Email from Comcast... [snip.....] What does this have to SPRINT PCS???? Am I missing something here? Cheers :) Pat Cook (A user of both Sprint & Comcast) Denver, CO > Hi everyone: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Am I missing something here? Hahahaaha...gonna ban me? ;-) If you read further down in the email, I had proposed an alternate forum at www.sprintusers.com. While it is a bit annoying with the ads, the actual user forum content is high quality. Though, I'd be happy to entertain other venues. - anthonyx26 >> Hi everyone: >> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >- anthonyx26 With multiple options available for free or nearly free text access to Usenet, I'll stick with alt.online-service.comcast for now. SignaturePaul Miner |
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