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What gsm phone has the best rf receiption for T moblie?

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Bob 1 - 03 Sep 2004 11:08 GMT
Ok the topic says all, well almost I problelly going to pick up the phon
e off of ebay so if not one t mobile currently carrys thats ok . I live
in a area were almost all cell companys have so so receiption (verizon
too) So I need a rf receiption champ to help me out. thanx Bob S.
a - 03 Sep 2004 16:08 GMT
Nokia 3650/3660

> Ok the topic says all, well almost I problelly going to pick up the phon
> e off of ebay so if not one t mobile currently carrys thats ok . I live
> in a area were almost all cell companys have so so receiption (verizon
> too) So I need a rf receiption champ to help me out. thanx Bob S.
Bob 1 - 03 Sep 2004 19:26 GMT
> Nokia 3650/3660
>
>>Ok the topic says all, well almost I problelly going to pick up the phon
>>e off of ebay so if not one t mobile currently carrys thats ok . I live
>>in a area were almost all cell companys have so so receiption (verizon
>>too) So I need a rf receiption champ to help me out. thanx Bob S.

Ok thanx , my fault I should have mention that Im not really interested
in camera phone or weird unconventional laid out phones like the
3650/3660. Im looking for a good candy bar or flip phone style fairly
compact (not dinky though) and perfer it not to have a camera (because
cameras drive the price up to much for so little usefulness). Thanx
again for the reply and any constructive posts are welcome . thanx Bob S.
Joseph - 04 Sep 2004 03:18 GMT
>Ok thanx , my fault I should have mention that Im not really interested
>in camera phone or weird unconventional laid out phones like the
>3650/3660.

The 3660 is *not* unconventional and has the same 4 X 3 keypad that
most phones have.

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Cyrus Afzali - 05 Sep 2004 20:25 GMT
>> Nokia 3650/3660
>>
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>cameras drive the price up to much for so little usefulness). Thanx
>again for the reply and any constructive posts are welcome . thanx Bob S.

If you want a "candy bar" style, I'd go with the Nokia 6610. I've
gotten great reception, it's a tri-band and has WAP capabilities. It's
the best phone I've ever had and the one I've used longest.
Charles Hawtrey - 04 Sep 2004 01:53 GMT
Bob 1 <ThatWouldBeTelling@DrakeIsSix.com> climbed onto an orange crate
and shouted:

>Ok the topic says all, well almost I problelly going to pick up the phon
>e off of ebay so if not one t mobile currently carrys thats ok . I live
>in a area were almost all cell companys have so so receiption (verizon
>too) So I need a rf receiption champ to help me out. thanx Bob S.

Best RF reception for T-Mo is the good old Motorola P280/T280.  No
longer available through the usual channels but can be had through
Ebay, or occasionally other places if you ask around.  Our town has
very mediocre service with T-Mo and my P280 holds connections (or
held, before it broke) where the other phones in our family don't even
get service at all.  I'm so completely sold on the P280 that I'm
buying another now that my first one has broken due to age and abuse.

The P280 does not have a camera or color screen.  I consider the lack
of those features to be an advantage...

The Ericsson R520m is supposed to have excellent RF too but I have no
personal experience with it.

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Bob 1 - 04 Sep 2004 04:32 GMT
> Bob 1 <ThatWouldBeTelling@DrakeIsSix.com> climbed onto an orange crate
> and shouted:
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> "Dude, we totally forgot our slogan..." ~ Medical Marijuana Association
> Billboard
thanx guys keep the ideas rolling.
jsstuffNO@SPAMrochester.rr.com - 04 Sep 2004 18:19 GMT
I've used the following:

Motorola P280
Motorola v60
Samsung N210 (I think, it's been a while and it was terrible anyway.
Nokia 6610

All on T-Mobile and without a doubt the 6610 is the best of the lot.  I
couldn't use the P280 at home, even though it was rated as a very good
RF phone.  I use the 6610 all the time at home.  Still spotty service
but at least i can use it.

So far,  I'd vote for the 6610 if you can find one.  No longer on the
T-Mobile site.

John
Charles Hawtrey - 05 Sep 2004 00:38 GMT
jsstuffNO@SPAMrochester.rr.com climbed onto an orange crate and
shouted:

>I've used the following:
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>So far,  I'd vote for the 6610 if you can find one.  No longer on the
>T-Mobile site.

Thanks for the head-to-head comparison.  I've heard that the 6610 is
good but have had trouble finding solid info on its RF -- it seems
most reviews focus on the number of voices in the polyphonic ringtones
and other such fluff.

I've also read that unlike most other color phones, the 6610's screen
is readable in daylight.  Would you agree?

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Billboard
LEM - 05 Sep 2004 01:53 GMT
> Thanks for the head-to-head comparison.  I've heard that the 6610 is
> good but have had trouble finding solid info on its RF -- it seems
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I've also read that unlike most other color phones, the 6610's screen
> is readable in daylight.  Would you agree?

I have 4 Nokia 6610's in our household, and they work great! Never a
reception problem, though we live in a pretty spotty area. One day I was
talking to CS rep at 2nd level, who was trying to trobleshoot some other
thing with my account (not phone related), and he wanted to check which
tower my phone was currently connected to. So he asked for my exact
location (what intersection is the nearest), and said in a very surprized
voice, that his map shows me as being on a very margin of coverage (like
between 2 towers, where each is on a boundary of their range). None the
less -- the phones work great all around the house, even in stairwells,
where there's no windows near at all. Sometimes I do lose a signal in the
house, but hey... when I had Sprint and their Samsung phone, I could only
talk when near a right window (I know they use different towers, but I
think they are all in the same general area).

Display. Hm... I never thought of it... I never had any issues with
display. I guess it never occured to me with my 6610, that it is
"supposed" to be hard to read the display under certain conditions...
Definetly no problems under daylight that I can recall I just get it out
and use!

The only problems with this particular phone are size related, and are
based on your preferences. For one thing my mother can't read the display
without her eyeglasses, except for a phone book, which has a very nice
setting for just such persons, that displays names in very large font
across the entire screen. And my wife has trouble finding her phone in
the purse, but, and that's the only negative things about it. I love my
phone, and have no troubles whatsoever!

LEM.
(NG replies preferred, but to e-mail me, remove all digits from address)
Cyrus Afzali - 05 Sep 2004 20:28 GMT
>jsstuffNO@SPAMrochester.rr.com climbed onto an orange crate and
>shouted:
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>most reviews focus on the number of voices in the polyphonic ringtones
>and other such fluff.

I've had solid RF performance from mine. Granted, you don't usually
read such info. in reviews, because honestly most people don't know
whether they're getting it or not. They often focus on the "service"
as the issue if they're getting dropped calls.

>I've also read that unlike most other color phones, the 6610's screen
>is readable in daylight.  Would you agree?

I use mine outdoors all the time with no trouble. Obviously, in harsh
sunlight, you're going to have some issues, but they're easily gotten
around by holding at a different angle most of the time.

One thing to look out with the 6610 is it's screen. I've found it's
relatively easy to scratch. Having said that, once I had a few initial
ones, it's never really been much of an issue and it's never impaired
the screen viewing.
jsstuffNO@SPAMrochester.rr.com - 06 Sep 2004 12:16 GMT
> Thanks for the head-to-head comparison.  I've heard that the 6610 is
> good but have had trouble finding solid info on its RF -- it seems
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I've also read that unlike most other color phones, the 6610's screen
> is readable in daylight.  Would you agree?

It's not a very high resolution color screen,  and sure it washes out in
bright sunlight as any screen would. Of course we only have about 7
sunny days a year here..

The downsides to the 6610 that I can think of:

1. Tiny Power switch, an annoyance really.
2. proprietary headphone jack (they call it a POP Port and you need it
for the included FM radio - nice touch.

I travel internationally with it, and it is really the best phone I've
used. Verizon phones included.
Joseph - 06 Sep 2004 16:40 GMT
>I travel internationally with it, and it is really the best phone I've
>used. Verizon phones included.

What is this supposed to mean?  Verizon phones cannot travel
internationally.  If you meant it was better than the phones offered
by Verizon that's not hard considering that Verizon has some of the
poorest choice of phones of any carrier.

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Bob 1 - 06 Sep 2004 19:23 GMT
>>I travel internationally with it, and it is really the best phone I've
>>used. Verizon phones included.
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yes I use verizon now. Verizon phones suck monkey nuts, big, overpriced
striped of features.low quality, pos(and thats being kind). Althought
verizon has the largest network in the US they cripple it with crappy
equipment. and sense cdma has about zero use outside the US and a few
asian countries and gsm phone is a better world traveler.
John Klug - 07 Sep 2004 03:03 GMT
> The Ericsson R520m is supposed to have excellent RF too but I have no
> personal experience with it.
We have the R520m with the pull up antenna, and it is much better than
the old Nokia 5190 and the new Nokia 3595.  The standard off the shell
R520m is not much better than average.  The last time I saw an antenna
(IAT-10) sold on E-Bay it was over $100, and much pricier than the
phone itself.

The R520m does not have much volume, and most of the time when you use
bluetooth, the volume goes to the minimum setting.  Also, bluetooth
occasionally hangs and you have to power the phone off and on again.
It is a lousy speakerphone, due to the lack of volume.

If you can get the extendable antenna, it is worth the other
aggravations.
Dave Stone - 04 Sep 2004 11:18 GMT
> Ok the topic says all, well almost I problelly going to pick up the phon
> e off of ebay so if not one t mobile currently carrys thats ok . I live
> in a area were almost all cell companys have so so receiption (verizon
> too) So I need a rf receiption champ to help me out. thanx Bob S.

I've been using a Nokia 6010 for a few weeks now and the reception is pretty
good. I got it for free (w/ activation) on a basic plan. I might look into
the Mot 280 as a backup.
X-Eliminator - 06 Sep 2004 15:26 GMT
Moto P280...I own 3 of therm & have used them in UK with great
success.

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>Ok the topic says all, well almost I problelly going to pick up the phon
>e off of ebay so if not one t mobile currently carrys thats ok . I live
>in a area were almost all cell companys have so so receiption (verizon
>too) So I need a rf receiption champ to help me out. thanx Bob S.
John S. - 06 Sep 2004 15:40 GMT
>Moto P280...I own 3 of therm & have used them in UK with great
>success.

GREAT reception - but otherwise a peice of sh.t for a phone.

I owned one and as soon as I got back from Africa, I posted it for sale on
E-Bay and picked up a Nokia.

Motorola (not just the P280) has not gotten the message that things like
switching bands should be automatic. Things like menu navigation should be
intuitive and not have to be re-learned each time you want to do something that
isn't done on a daily basis.

I doubt that they will ever get the message so I simply don't buy their
product.

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John S.
e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net
Mike S. - 06 Sep 2004 17:33 GMT
>>Moto P280...I own 3 of therm & have used them in UK with great
>>success.
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>Motorola (not just the P280) has not gotten the message that things like
>switching bands should be automatic.

They addressed that in the "P280 second edition" i.e. the 280i which,
unfortunately, was never picked up by a US carrier.
Bob 1 - 06 Sep 2004 23:57 GMT
yes the 6610 maybe a nice tri band phone I going to be using it 99% In
califorina, neveda and very small time in az. So is it only nokia
triband phones that get good receipt or are there other models to look
at and remember Im open to non nokia suggestions too. thanx guys keep it
going Bob S.
Charles Hawtrey - 07 Sep 2004 04:35 GMT
sexyexotiche@aol.comspamfree (John S.) climbed onto an orange crate
and shouted:

>>Moto P280...I own 3 of therm & have used them in UK with great
>>success.
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>intuitive and not have to be re-learned each time you want to do something that
>isn't done on a daily basis.

I'm a P280 fan and these are annoyances, for certain.  To me it's
worth putting up with them in return for outstanding reception and
audio quality, but then I only travel overseas a few times a year so
the menu hassles aren't such a big deal.  To each his own.

While we're all ragging on the P280, note also that its text entry
method for SMS is poor.  Wish it had T9.

On the upside, spare batteries and accessories are cheap.  It also has
a monochrome screen that is more readable in bright light than a
typical color screen, and uses largish fonts that are a boon for those
of us "of a certain age" who have trouble with small type.

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Bob 1 - 11 Sep 2004 23:05 GMT
Ok guy my bumpola, any more Ideas on this topic? thanx bob s.
Joseph - 12 Sep 2004 02:59 GMT
>Ok guy my bumpola, any more Ideas on this topic? thanx bob s.

Nokia 2190.  Heck of a phone and it does double duty as you can use it
for self defense.

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Bob 1 - 21 Sep 2004 07:02 GMT
>>Ok guy my bumpola, any more Ideas on this topic? thanx bob s.
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lol funny man, ok any more useful suggestions of phone made in the last
three years
Bob 1 - 25 Sep 2004 21:06 GMT
>>> Ok guy my bumpola, any more Ideas on this topic? thanx bob s.
>>
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> lol funny man, ok any more useful suggestions of phone made in the last
> three years
my bumpola again , hey are there any good single band phones known for
good RF receiption, I could get a old 8290 or 8390 cheap on ebay , hey
come on guys someone got to have a option out there.
Joseph - 25 Sep 2004 21:54 GMT
>my bumpola again , hey are there any good single band phones known for
>good RF receiption, I could get a old 8290 or 8390 cheap on ebay , hey
>come on guys someone got to have a option out there.

Stay far far away from the 8290.  Many units had problems with screen
fade.  If you want a small phone get an 8390.    If you want an old
steady phone try a Nokia 5190 or Nokia 3390.  They are no nonsense non
fancy phones, but for the job of just making calls they work fine.
The problem you'll find with the 3390 though is that even with
"better" batteries the battery life is not very good.  OTOH even
though the 5190 is very plain jane it works well and has excellent
battery life even with the standard NiMh battery.  Lots of accessories
readily available since the 51XX series was used all over the world
and also used in many different technologies (TDMA/CDMA and GSM.)

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Bob 1 - 26 Sep 2004 09:28 GMT
>>my bumpola again , hey are there any good single band phones known for
>>good RF receiption, I could get a old 8290 or 8390 cheap on ebay , hey
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thanx joseph for the reply any more ideas guys , all constructive
comments welcomed.
dave martin - 28 Sep 2004 07:06 GMT
Bob 1 <ThatWouldBeTelling@DrakeIsSix.com> wrote in message
> thanx joseph for the reply any more ideas guys , all constructive
> comments welcomed.

I've found that in fringe areas the Motorola V60 is as sensitive as
the P280.

Overall I prefer the V60's features and recommend it over the P280.

Both are really good for GPRS and maintain connectivity even when
signals are so low that voice is impractical.

I've no idea of how their sensitivity might compare to a pcmcia card
but I like being able to strategically place the phones in a high
window to improve reception.

My biggest complaint about the motorola phones is the external
connector for data; the multiple contacts are very insecure and are my
main source of communication problems.  The antenna connectors are
also very insecure.

Dave
 
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