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Capn - 09 Sep 2004 05:37 GMT
How beneficial will the new blackberry that T-mobile is going to carry be? I
noticed it is quad band with PCS 1900 along with 1800 and 850/900, looks
like coverage shouldn't be a problem at all.

Capt.
Cyrus Afzali - 10 Sep 2004 13:46 GMT
>How beneficial will the new blackberry that T-mobile is going to carry be? I
>noticed it is quad band with PCS 1900 along with 1800 and 850/900, looks
>like coverage shouldn't be a problem at all.

We have no ability to roam on any 850 mHz networks, so even if they
don't disable the 850 band, it won't help you.
Joseph - 10 Sep 2004 18:00 GMT
>>How beneficial will the new blackberry that T-mobile is going to carry be? I
>>noticed it is quad band with PCS 1900 along with 1800 and 850/900, looks
>>like coverage shouldn't be a problem at all.
>
>We have no ability to roam on any 850 mHz networks, so even if they
>don't disable the 850 band, it won't help you.

I think you'll find that is not absolutely so.  T-Mobile can roam on
850 networks in Ecuador and another country that I do not recall in
central America.  It's right on T-Mobile's international roaming page
on their web site.  They can also roam on Rogers Wireless in Canada
and there are reports that it works on some networks in the US as
well.  It's only supported officially for networks in central america.

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Cyrus Afzali - 10 Sep 2004 20:49 GMT
>>>How beneficial will the new blackberry that T-mobile is going to carry be? I
>>>noticed it is quad band with PCS 1900 along with 1800 and 850/900, looks
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>and there are reports that it works on some networks in the US as
>well.  It's only supported officially for networks in central america.

This stuff gets a little confusing in terms of what frequencies are
referred to. I was under the impression that outside the U.S., the
frequencies you refer to are grouped under the 900 band that has been
traditionallly handled by a tri-band device.

People have been clammoring for a "quad-band" device in the U.S.
because at least technically, it would give us access to the 850
networks of Cingular.
Mike Schumann - 12 Sep 2004 22:10 GMT
There are numerous reports in this newsgroup that T-Mobile customers have
been able to roam on 850 systems in the US.  One example is Dobson, which
covers much of northern MN and WI.

In addition, my local T-Mobile store tells me that 850 roaming is going to
be enabled in the near future, so this capability is a big deal for anyone
looking at new phones.  Nokia better wake up soon and offer a quad band
phone, or they are going to get clobbered in serious business user segment
of the market.

Mike Schumann

>>How beneficial will the new blackberry that T-mobile is going to carry be?
>>I
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> We have no ability to roam on any 850 mHz networks, so even if they
> don't disable the 850 band, it won't help you.
Cyrus Afzali - 13 Sep 2004 03:20 GMT
>There are numerous reports in this newsgroup that T-Mobile customers have
>been able to roam on 850 systems in the US.  One example is Dobson, which
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>phone, or they are going to get clobbered in serious business user segment
>of the market.

Well, that begs the question what are the "world phones" being sold by
Cingular? They obviously have to have 850-capable equipment, because
so much of their territory is that spectrum frequency.

>Mike Schumann
>
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>> We have no ability to roam on any 850 mHz networks, so even if they
>> don't disable the 850 band, it won't help you.
ECL - 13 Sep 2004 12:12 GMT
I do not know what frequency it was using but my TMobile Blackberry 6230 was
roaming on the Cingular network thi ssummer while on vacation.  I was
surprised.

> >There are numerous reports in this newsgroup that T-Mobile customers have
> >been able to roam on 850 systems in the US.  One example is Dobson, which
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> >> We have no ability to roam on any 850 mHz networks, so even if they
> >> don't disable the 850 band, it won't help you.
Stuart Friedman - 19 Sep 2004 13:41 GMT
My v600 is a quad band.  So is my wifes HP 6315.
> I do not know what frequency it was using but my TMobile Blackberry 6230 was
> roaming on the Cingular network thi ssummer while on vacation.  I was
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> > >> We have no ability to roam on any 850 mHz networks, so even if they
> > >> don't disable the 850 band, it won't help you.
 
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