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New phone or change service?

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swingman - 14 Dec 2004 02:57 GMT
Friends,
I currently use a T610 on Tmobile.  Generally I get good reception,
however in my home I cannot get service most of the time (occasionally I
can get "one bar").  I've heard that the t610 is not the best for RF and
I wonder if a different phone would make much difference?  I'm debating
between staying with Tmobile and trying a new phone, Vs switching to
Verizon (my girlfriend has Verizon and gets a strong signal in the
house).  TIA for you opinions.
Cyrus Afzali - 14 Dec 2004 02:51 GMT
>Friends,
>I currently use a T610 on Tmobile.  Generally I get good reception,
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Verizon (my girlfriend has Verizon and gets a strong signal in the
>house).  TIA for you opinions.

This issue breeds wide-ranging discussions, and there are some people
who obviously prefer Sony Ericsson equipment, for whatever reason.
However, I and many others would be willing to bet strongly that your
reception and happiness with the service would improve greatly by
dumping that phone and going with a Nokia or another maker that has
better RF characteristics.
J Haggerty - 14 Dec 2004 05:03 GMT
I compared SE T616, Nokia 3650, and Nokia 6200 when I tried AT&T GSM
last year. Although the SE T616 showed lower signal strength than the
Nokias, it actually was better for making and holding calls in my house.
I think the reason that some people say the SE products get less
reception is that the signal strength meter is calibrated differently
(less optimistic).
Based on that, you may just be in a poor signal area for T-mobile, and
if that's the case, switching phones will not help. I ended up dropping
AT&T due to the poor customer service, and ended up getting GAIT phones
through Cingular (a S-E T62u for me, and a Nokia 6340i for my wife) and
had great reception after that. (Incidentally, I like my T62u better
than her 6340i)
The reason your girlfriend gets better reception in your house is
probably due to her phone being TDMA rather than a GSM phone. How is her
reception at the other places you go? By changing carriers, you may just
be switching one dead zone for another different dead zone.

JPH

> Friends,
> I currently use a T610 on Tmobile.  Generally I get good reception,
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Verizon (my girlfriend has Verizon and gets a strong signal in the
> house).  TIA for you opinions.
Joseph - 14 Dec 2004 17:49 GMT
>The reason your girlfriend gets better reception in your house is
>probably due to her phone being TDMA rather than a GSM phone. How is her
>reception at the other places you go? By changing carriers, you may just
>be switching one dead zone for another different dead zone.

Verizon is *not* TDMA it is CDMA and the technology used has little to
do with how well she can receive or make calls.  It's more to do with
which phone is used and the location of the house more than anything.

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Al Klein - 14 Dec 2004 17:51 GMT
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 23:03:19 -0600, J Haggerty
<jphagcanbereached@cox.net> said in
alt.cellular.gsm.carriers.voicestream:

>> I'm debating
>> between staying with Tmobile and trying a new phone, Vs switching to
>> Verizon (my girlfriend has Verizon and gets a strong signal in the
>> house).

>The reason your girlfriend gets better reception in your house is
>probably due to her phone being TDMA rather than a GSM phone.

If it's Verizon it's CDMA, not TDMA, and that has nothing to do with
signal strength.

>By changing carriers, you may just be switching one dead zone for another different dead zone.

Very true.

BTW, the Samsung R225m seems to be the best TMO phone for weak signal
reception.
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CellPhonesEtc at optonline dot net
Swingman - 14 Dec 2004 18:34 GMT
> BTW, the Samsung R225m seems to be the best TMO phone for weak signal
> reception.

Can you speak specifically to how much difference the phone makes?  Clearly, my home is in an area that is poorly covered by Tmobile.  I can step outside the house and still not get a signal so the problem is not caused by shielding.  However, since I can consistently get a weak "one bar" signal in a room upstairs would having a phone with better RF characteristics likely make a significant difference?  Might I get a "two bar" signal?  Would the area within which I can get signal expand somewhat?  Obviously, I'm not asking for a definitive answer, just what is likely based on how the technology works.  The bottom line is I don't want to renew my contract to get a new phone and discover that there's no improvement.  I'd rather just change services since I know that Verizon will work in my home.  Yes, I may be trading one dead zone for another, but I will care less about dead zones that are not in my home.
NewsGroupSBC - 03 Jan 2005 07:47 GMT
I don't think phone make much diffirence.
> Friends,
> I currently use a T610 on Tmobile.  Generally I get good reception,
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Verizon (my girlfriend has Verizon and gets a strong signal in the house).
> TIA for you opinions.
Joe Phillips - 23 Jan 2005 23:00 GMT
> I don't think phone make much diffirence.
>> Friends,
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>> new phone, Vs switching to Verizon (my girlfriend has Verizon and
>> gets a strong signal in the house). TIA for you opinions.

I think phones do make a difference.  One of my coworkers had this
really ugly-a.s cell phone that got the best reception inside our office
compared to other cell phones on the same service.  He'd have full bars
on his phone while his girlfriend had maybe 1 or 2 bars in the same
location.

I also noticed that different cell phone, like my old Samsung N105, have
better clarity than others no matter what the signal strength.  While my
brothers new Samsung E105 can't compete clarity-wise with my old N105,
it is still a hell of a lot better than what I've got on my Motorola
V66.  I cried the day my Samsung N105 went in the garbage because it was
the best cell phone I ever owned.

In response to the OP's question even though I am a firm supporter of T-
Mobile I have used Verizons service and if that is working better in
your house you should go with it.  Service quality in your own home
comes first:  Let's just say I was suckered into Sprint when they knew I
couldn't use their service at all anywhere in my own town or neighboring
ones.  When I finally cancelled after 6 or so months I was told, by an
honest CSR this time, that it should never have been activated to begin
with.  Unfortunately I wasn't offered any compensation and could care
less if Sprint ever goes into the toilet.  In my opinion T-Mobile is in
first place, with verizon in second, and cingular in third for my choice
in cell provider.
 
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