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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / T-Mobile / February 2005No more free GPRS? CSD?
I have the $2.99 T-zones plan added to my voice plan, with which I can do a little Internet stuff on my Moto V60 phone. However, in the past, I have been able to connect it to my laptop with a USB cable, and use it as a modem to do full internet surfing on the laptop, although slow, when not near any other type of connection, and it hasn't added to my bill. I've had some troubles with that USB connection lately (Motorola USB Modem), so haven't done it lately. My next phone will have Bluetooth, and then I hope to be able to do this via Bluetooth, rather than the USB cable. But I believe I have read something here about T-Mo blocking ports, so that cannot be done any more. Can someone verify that? Is that impossible now, without the extra $20 per month Internet plan? (I don't use that enough to justify that extra price every month.) How about CSD? Using the T-Mo phone as a modem to dial my own ISP? Does that still work, taking only from minutes? see http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=522596 > I have the $2.99 T-zones plan added to my voice plan, with which I can do a > little Internet stuff on my Moto V60 phone. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > How about CSD? Using the T-Mo phone as a modem to dial my own ISP? Does that > still work, taking only from minutes? > see http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=522596 It looks like that thread refers to web browsing from a phone, with alternate browsers such as Opera. (With my V60 phone, not possible in any case.) I was referring to browsing on my laptop, connected to the phone. A quick scan or search of here will show numerous threads already posted were since October and in some cases before, you cannot use Tzones to connect externally to handset... TZones is WAP only.... To connect laptop, your account must have the TMobile Internet added... CSD is still set up, and you should be able to use dial up to regular dial up ISPs... > > see http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=522596 > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I was referring to browsing on my laptop, connected to the phone. >TZones is WAP only.... To connect laptop, > your account must have the TMobile Internet added... > > CSD is still set up, and you should be able to use dial up to regular dial > up ISPs... I'm having trouble here, are the 2 sentences connected or not............. Is this true: To connect a laptop using DUN to dial up an ISP (via slow 9600) you MUST have TMobile Internet added! I can call my isp's phone # and get a modem but you are saying I can't connect like before without TMobile Internet added.... I used this way to connect 'occasionally' for years with Voicestream (to check email & use MS Money to do banking) without any extra fee but haven't used it for about 6 months and have now changed phones and am having problems but will stop tinkering if the 'without TMobile Internet added' is true .... Like MS said I don't use it enough to justify that extra price every month. If true this will be another reason for disliking TMobile . Next they will start charging for using auto-dial or maybe the loudness button! Michael I have never had a problem dialing up my ISP to get internet coverage using my T-Mobile phone. It's slow (9600 BPS), and uses up your minutes, but if I'm at the cabin on a weekend, it's an effective way to get my e-mail for free. You don't need to be signed up for T-Zones or anything else for this. The service is CSD (Circuit Switched Data), and comes standard with all T-Mobile voice plans. Mike Schumann >>TZones is WAP only.... To connect laptop, >> your account must have the TMobile Internet added... [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Michael >I have never had a problem dialing up my ISP to get internet coverage using my >T-Mobile phone. It's slow (9600 BPS), and uses up your minutes, but if I'm at [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Mike Schumann Thanks Mike , I have the cable coming for this new phone........I've used CSD for years in our motorhome but was starting to get spooked by the mixed signals from people on this and other groups. Thanks again Michael GPRS w/T-Zones works if the proxy settings posted in the Howard forum are applied to Internet Explorer under the settings for the GPRS connection. Likewise if you use a PDA, set the proxy "on" and use the same settings. Best wishes. > I have never had a problem dialing up my ISP to get internet coverage using > my T-Mobile phone. It's slow (9600 BPS), and uses up your minutes, but if [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >> >>Michael Does it work with T MO To Go (prepay)? > A quick scan or search of here will show numerous threads already posted > were since October and in some cases before, you cannot use Tzones to > connect externally to handset... TZones is WAP only.... To connect laptop, > your account must have the TMobile Internet added... Yes, I know there have been threads about it, I mentioned that, but there seemed to be some disagreement about it, I wasn't clear about it. What about the "enable port 80" thing? Is that only for connecting with handset, not with external computer? So, dialing up from computer through T-Mobile phone *99***1# (old number for dialing up T-Mo GPRS through computer) doesn't work any more? Or is there a new number, new settings? > CSD is still set up, and you should be able to use dial up to regular dial > up ISPs... I wasn't able to get it to work today. I finally got the "Motorola USB Modem" to appear again in my list of modems, as connected. Then I set it as the modem to use for my ISP dial-up, and tried it. I kept getting an error message about "unable to connect to other computer", or something like that. (When I changed the modem back to my normal dial-up modem, it connected fine.) So, I'm wondering if there is a problem with CSD as well, or just with my setup? (I used to be able to do this, dial up my ISP through my T-Mobile phone.) Have others still been able to dial-up their ISP through T-Mobile phone as modem (CSD)? Anyone still able to connect laptop via T-Mobile GPRS without the monthly Internet plan? (The plan is probably a good deal for those who use it a lot, but for someone who might only occasionally wish to connect that way, not so hot.) > > > see http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=522596 > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > > > I was referring to browsing on my laptop, connected to the phone. It's quite simple. It either works or it doesn't. T-mobile does not support tethering using t-zones, but it will work under many conditions. you want to use GPRS and have t-zones on your account: Configure the device you are tethering to the phone to use the proxy and port settings as found at howard forums. (I posted a link to the info yesterday) Using CSD: Configure the device you are tethering to the phone just as if you were using an ordinary modem, except choose the appropriate driver. good luck, steve article <1107628575.796416@news-1.nethere.net>, MS <ms@nospam.com> wrote: > > A quick scan or search of here will show numerous threads already posted > > were since October and in some cases before, you cannot use Tzones to [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > > > > > I was referring to browsing on my laptop, connected to the phone. > It's quite simple. It either works or it doesn't. T-mobile does not > support tethering using t-zones, but it will work under many [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > and port settings as found at howard forums. (I posted a link to the > info yesterday) By "tethering", you mean connecting a computer to the Internet through the T-Mobile phone? In other words, although officially such GPRS laptop usage (without unlimited data plan) doesn't work, many people get it to work with those settings? I'll try them, and see if it works. > Using CSD: > > Configure the device you are tethering to the phone just as if you were > using an ordinary modem, except choose the appropriate driver. As I wrote, I tried that today and it didn't work, although it has in the past. Have others been able to connect that way via CSD to their ISP lately? > Configure the device you are tethering to the phone to use the proxy > and port settings as found at howard forums. I tried. I'm not sure exactly how to set those settings, on a Windows XP computer. Let me see if you can clarify. The message there at HF says the following: "Just set turn the proxy to 'on' and use the following http ip and port: 216.155.165.50 port 8080." I assume by http ip they mean IP address, correct? So, I went to Properties for that connection, then chose Networking. highlighted Internet Protocol (TCP/IP), clicked Properties, then instead of the default "Obtain an IP address automatically", chose "use the following IP address", and put in 216.155.165.50. Was that the correct way to set IP for this connection? To set proxy to 8080. I see only one way to set proxy server. Not in those connection properties in "Network Connections", but in "Internet Options", "Connections" tab. I highlighted that GPRS T-mobile connection, chose "Settings", then "use a proxy server for this connection". It then asks for "address" and "port". The directions above list port 8080 for the proxy, but no address. What should be the address? I ended up putting 8080 in both fields, but I don't think that's correct. I used the dial-up number *99***1# which I had read about here quite awhile ago, username wap, no password. I got the error message: error -734 the PPP Link control protocol was terminated. What did I set up wrong? > > Configure the device you are tethering to the phone to use the proxy > > and port settings as found at howard forums. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > 216.155.165.50 port 8080." You are setting the proxy. nothing else. Not networking. > I assume by http ip they mean IP address, correct? So, I went to Properties > for that connection, then chose Networking. highlighted Internet Protocol [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > no address. What should be the address? I ended up putting 8080 in both > fields, but I don't think that's correct. The ip address. you have complicated the idea. Just follow the instructions in the simplest way possible. steve > The ip address. you have complicated the idea. Just follow the > instructions in the simplest way possible. > > steve Why the vagueness? "The directions" were not written for Win XP, but for the Opera browser on a phone. You said it will also work on a computer attached to a phone, why not tell us how, rather than just "follow the directions"? (I explained how I tried to do that in detail.) "The directions": "Just set turn the proxy to 'on' and use the following http ip and port: > 216.155.165.50 port 8080" Say IP, so I assumed it meant set IP address. Do you mean that IP address should be put in the field called "address" in the proxy dialogue? I think that setting for proxy under "Internet Options" only affects Internet Explorer, no? Or does it affect all Internet programs, including other browsers, e-mail programs, etc.? So--should the IP address in Networking be left to "server-assigned"? What settings do you use to dial-up? The ones I mentioned? >> A quick scan or search of here will show numerous threads already >> posted were since October and in some cases before, you cannot use [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > problem with CSD as well, or just with my setup? (I used to be able to > do this, dial up my ISP through my T-Mobile phone.) Try removing the +cgdcont=1,,"internet2.voicestream.com" from the Extra Initializing section of the Advanced tab under your Motorola USB modem driver before trying to dial your ISP using CSD. That string is used for establishing a connection for T-Mobile GPRS. The ISP you're trying to dial doesn't recognize it and that's why your getting the error. It's like trying to dial T-Mobile GPRS without it. > Have others still been able to dial-up their ISP through T-Mobile > phone as modem (CSD)? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> > >> > I was referring to browsing on my laptop, connected to the phone. "MS" <ms@nospam.com> wrote in news:1107661573.79394@news-1.nethere.net: >> Configure the device you are tethering to the phone to use the proxy >> and port settings as found at howard forums. [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > What did I set up wrong? dial *99# no username no password 216.155.165.50 is the address you put in proxy settings along with port 8080 not in tcp/ip settings. Make sure you change tcp/ip back to the default before you try again. |
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