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Mike H. - 17 Apr 2005 13:46 GMT
Does anyone have any experience with T-mobile data service and PC cards? I'm
getting ready to sign up. I intend to use it mostly for international
roaming. Any advice?

Thanks,

Mike H.
John S - 17 Apr 2005 18:01 GMT
> Does anyone have any experience with T-mobile data service and PC cards?
> I'm getting ready to sign up. I intend to use it mostly for international
> roaming. Any advice?

I have used T-Mobile for almost 2 yrs now. Although not as fast as some of
the other services currently being offered, the price makes sense. $29.99
(or $19.99 if you have T-Mobile service) compared to $80 for all the others.

I have not been in a city hotel room where I couldn't get service yet. I use
the card instead of the hotels dial up data port because the connection
speed is in the high 40's instead of barely 28.8 with most hotels phone
systems. Also in some places, hotels charge for phone calls. In these
instances I always use the AirCard.

I am using an older Merlin card that is no longer available but it works
very well and certainly as well as many of my freinds who have the newer
cards.
John Richards - 17 Apr 2005 20:19 GMT
> I have used T-Mobile for almost 2 yrs now. Although not as fast as some of
> the other services currently being offered, the price makes sense. $29.99
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> systems. Also in some places, hotels charge for phone calls. In these
> instances I always use the AirCard.

If you have time to plan your trip, you can find a hotel with free Wi-Fi.
More and more are including it as a perk. It's about 25 times faster
than what you have.

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John Richards

JP - 17 Apr 2005 21:02 GMT
The card now being offered by T-Mobile is capable of connecting on Wi-Fi as
well as GPRS. Theoretically one will always be in contact. In places with
Wi-Fi the connection would be much faster though.

http://www.tmobile.com/products/overview.asp?phoneid=224272&class=data

Maybe T-Mobile might be willing to exchange this model for an older card
type!

One carrier (maybe Sprint, I'm not sure at all) is coming out with a
combined EV-DO + Wi-Fi card within a year. I think someone mentioned this in
either this or another similar NG recently.

HTH

JP

: > I have used T-Mobile for almost 2 yrs now. Although not as fast as some of
: > the other services currently being offered, the price makes sense. $29.99
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
: More and more are including it as a perk. It's about 25 times faster
: than what you have.
Mike H. - 18 Apr 2005 01:43 GMT
> Maybe T-Mobile might be willing to exchange this model for an older card
> type!
The T-mobile business services guy whom I am talking to say he has no
flexibility in the data hardware and that it changes from day to day. I told
him that I was thinking about getting my own hardware, he said that he would
happily ship me a SIM card. Thanks for your response.

Mike H.

> The card now being offered by T-Mobile is capable of connecting on Wi-Fi
> as
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
> : More and more are including it as a perk. It's about 25 times faster
> : than what you have.
Mike H. - 18 Apr 2005 01:33 GMT
> If you have time to plan your trip, you can find a hotel with free Wi-Fi.
> More and more are including it as a perk. It's about 25 times faster
> than what you have.

Sometimes I have no choice as to the hotel I will be staying at. Wi-fi is
definitely the way to go when it's available. I find that prior research for
me has over the years proven to be unreliable. Once there was no Wi-Fi
indicated and it gets installed at the hotel in Switzerland I was staying at
one day after I arrive. I detect it, used it and leap for joy. Other times
it is indicated but down or I can't find the right spot in the hotel to get
it working. I travel prepared to use Wi-fi but need additional options.
Thanks for your response.

>> I have used T-Mobile for almost 2 yrs now. Although not as fast as some
>> of the other services currently being offered, the price makes sense.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> More and more are including it as a perk. It's about 25 times faster
> than what you have.
johnbartley@email.com - 18 Apr 2005 17:39 GMT
>> If you have time to plan your trip, you can find a hotel with free Wi-Fi.
>> More and more are including it as a perk. It's about 25 times faster
>> than what you have.
>
>Sometimes I have no choice as to the hotel I will be staying at. Wi-fi is
>definitely the way to go when it's available.
<snip>

That is, if it's secure.

Hilton's wireless requires turning off firewalls on PCs, which is an invitation
to being hacked. No, thank you.
John Richards - 18 Apr 2005 19:43 GMT
>>> If you have time to plan your trip, you can find a hotel with free Wi-Fi.
>>> More and more are including it as a perk. It's about 25 times faster
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Hilton's wireless requires turning off firewalls on PCs, which is an invitation
> to being hacked. No, thank you.

I follow developments in the Wi-Fi world pretty closely. Either you are
mis-stating Hilton's policy, or else Hilton runs their own firewall.
Either way, I have not heard of anyone being hacked that way.

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John Richards

John Bartley K7AAY telcom admin, Portland OR - 22 Apr 2005 00:33 GMT
>> That is, if it's secure.
>>
>> Hilton's wireless requires turning off firewalls on PCs, which is an invitation
>> to being hacked. No, thank you.

>I follow developments in the Wi-Fi world pretty closely. Either you are
>mis-stating Hilton's policy, or else Hilton runs their own firewall.
>Either way, I have not heard of anyone being hacked that way.

Then get yourself off to the former Doubletrees on Hayden Island in Portland OR,
where I stayed Easter weekend.  Firewalls on personal hardware must be disabled,
which exposes my gear to every other machine also on the customer net in the
hotel.
John S - 20 Apr 2005 00:14 GMT
> Hilton's wireless requires turning off firewalls on PCs, which is an
> invitation
> to being hacked. No, thank you.

I haven't been to a Hilton lately but NONE of the hotels I have been in the
last 2 years that have WiFi or wired networks require me to turn anything
off!
Mike H. - 20 Apr 2005 03:44 GMT
> Hilton's wireless requires turning off firewalls on PCs, which is an
> invitation
> to being hacked. No, thank you.

Good grief!

>>> If you have time to plan your trip, you can find a hotel with free
>>> Wi-Fi.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> invitation
> to being hacked. No, thank you.
John S - 20 Apr 2005 00:01 GMT
> If you have time to plan your trip, you can find a hotel with free Wi-Fi.
> More and more are including it as a perk. It's about 25 times faster
> than what you have.

More and more motels/hotels have "High Speed" internet offerings for free,
However, Some of the places that I travel at times are off the beaten path
and do not have this service. For instance in Honolulu, HI this past week I
stayed in a hotel that has some wired high speed, some wireless high speed
and mostly dial up. You have ot be careful when checking in and ask for the
high speed internet or you simply don't get it.

Typically, hotels/motels have it or they don't, The above example is not
typical. And most either have wireless or wired. Usually not both. Where I
am tonight has both, tomorrow night is all wires.
BruceR - 20 Apr 2005 03:54 GMT
I ran into something similar at a Hilton in Boca Raton, FL a few weeks
ago. High Speed in the room for $9.95/day; wireless in the lobby for
some crazr hourly rate, or, in a room right off the lobby, you can use
their PC connected to High Speed for free! I just plugged my laptop into
the jack that the PC was using and wqas off to the races.

From:John S
johndsummers@teraearthlink.net

>> If you have time to plan your trip, you can find a hotel with free
>> Wi-Fi. More and more are including it as a perk. It's about 25 times
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> not typical. And most either have wireless or wired. Usually not
> both. Where I am tonight has both, tomorrow night is all wires.
Mike H. - 20 Apr 2005 03:59 GMT
Hi John,

> Typically, hotels/motels have it or they don't, The above example is not
> typical. And most either have wireless or wired. Usually not both. Where I
> am tonight has both, tomorrow night is all wires.

Yep. You have to be able to use a mix of services depending on what's
available. I also have AT&T Business Global Net. It has local access points
just about every where in the US. And 0800 numbers through out Europe and
much of the world. Some places like London where the 0800 call is free from
hotels instead of 99P per minute! I just use dial-up for data only.  Other
places like Paris I'm still willing to pay 20 Euro cents per minute for
local dial up. In Szentendre Hungry, it was a local cheap Hungarian call to
an AT&T Szentendre point of access. In Cairo there was no AT&T and the
wireless LAN that I detected in my hotel was locked up. I'm not into
hacking. I had better GPRS signals through our Egypt than in the US however!
In the desert, on the Nile and the Red Sea. Go figure.

All the best,
Mike H.
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>> If you have time to plan your trip, you can find a hotel with free Wi-Fi.
>> More and more are including it as a perk. It's about 25 times faster
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> typical. And most either have wireless or wired. Usually not both. Where I
> am tonight has both, tomorrow night is all wires.
Mike H. - 18 Apr 2005 01:21 GMT
Thanks John,

This is encouraging information.
>> Does anyone have any experience with T-mobile data service and PC cards?
>> I'm getting ready to sign up. I intend to use it mostly for international
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> very well and certainly as well as many of my freinds who have the newer
> cards.
John S - 20 Apr 2005 00:16 GMT
> Thanks John,
>
> This is encouraging information.

You are more than welcome!
 
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