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news.rcn.com - 14 Jun 2005 03:00 GMT
My steam age Samsung just died and I wanted to buy a phone I can use as a
modem

No phones seem to be advertised to do this: Dial my ISP and act as an
interface between my computer and the internet (as opposed to using the
TMobile proprietary service)

Are there any descriptions anywhere of phones usable with TMobile which can
do this?  The company themselves want you to sign up to their extortionate
service and use their email program alone which I cant do anyway (with about
ten mail boxes to check)

Someone told me to look for a phone with RRSS capability (which he said was
limited to 19,200 baud at the moment) which I cant find details of anywhere
either. Has anyone found out anything about this?
Mike Schumann - 14 Jun 2005 05:16 GMT
The are quite a few phones that will do this (at 9.6KB).

Go to the Nokia web site and look at their GSM phones.  The easiest thing to
do is look at the phone using the compare feature of the web site.  It will
show whether or not the phone will work as a modem.

Both the Motorola V188 and V330 will work as modems.  However, I just
returned the V330 that I had after one week of frustration with various
firmware bugs and human factors design flaws.  On the other hand, one plus
that both of these phones have, is quad band GSM coverage, which no Nokia
phone currently offers.

Mike Schumann

> My steam age Samsung just died and I wanted to buy a phone I can use as a
> modem
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> was limited to 19,200 baud at the moment) which I cant find details of
> anywhere either. Has anyone found out anything about this?
SFB - 14 Jun 2005 05:47 GMT
So Mike... are you going to share with us what were your specific
reasons for returning the V330.... I have read about that the custom
settings are gone after turning it off, but I haven't read any other
"faults" up till your post.

SFB

> The are quite a few phones that will do this (at 9.6KB).
>
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>>was limited to 19,200 baud at the moment) which I cant find details of
>>anywhere either. Has anyone found out anything about this?
Mike Schumann - 14 Jun 2005 14:26 GMT
Do a google search on "Motorola V330 Review" in this newsgroup.  Posting was
dated 6/5/05.

Mike Schumann

> So Mike... are you going to share with us what were your specific reasons
> for returning the V330.... I have read about that the custom settings are
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>>>was limited to 19,200 baud at the moment) which I cant find details of
>>>anywhere either. Has anyone found out anything about this?
news.rcn.com - 14 Jun 2005 15:40 GMT
Many thanks for your reply: I fogot to mention that I need a triband phone,
which I presume I will be able to see on the comparison page.  I will check
the Nokia site.

But in case there isn't one available in my area, is there any chart
anywhere of which other manufacturer phones can be used as modems and which
can't and are there any manufacturers which I should specifically avoid?

I note that (for example)  Blackberry's support mysteriously runs out a few
days after you buy the phone.  Is this indicative of something?  Does it
mean that they wont support their products unless you pay them to do so or
does it simply mean that their phones are so complex that if they DID, their
switchboards would be constantly jammed? Or does it mean that they are so
badly designed that the maladies which you say curse the Motorola would
mandate everyone who finds a badly designed feature would be constantly
calling them to find out how to get the feature to work properly?
Mike Schumann - 14 Jun 2005 16:30 GMT
I suspect that the majority of tri-band phones will have built in modem
support.  But you should check for sure.

Mike Schumann

> Many thanks for your reply: I fogot to mention that I need a triband
> phone, which I presume I will be able to see on the comparison page.  I
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> constantly calling them to find out how to get the feature to work
> properly?
news.rcn.com - 14 Jun 2005 18:06 GMT
>I suspect that the majority of tri-band phones will have built in modem
> support.  But you should check for sure.

As far as I had been able to check, very few of them do which is why I was
wondering if anyone could point me in the direction of some kind of
comparison chart: I tried the site and it didnt differentiate whether the
function being offered was a modem or whether it only enabled you to use the
phone with the T-Mobile service. So I called Nokia and they weren't sure
either without a huge amount of digging and referring to level two tech
support with me on line

Ultimately I discovered that a lot of their models costing upwards of $400
have modem use but I was trying to spend as LITTLE Money as possible rather
than as much.  I had heard it referred to as RSS or RRS or something and
THEY refer to it as HSCSD (high Speed Circuit Switch Data) which gives rise
to numerous other questions, such as whether this is something new or
something which has been improved on recently so that you HAVE to buy a new
model:

Nothing about cellular phone modem use is in the slightest bit high speed,
in fact I have heard that nothing moves at more than 19,200 KbPS. So is this
there something new going on or can I just look for a manufacturer which
charges less?
Armada - 14 Jun 2005 18:38 GMT
> >I suspect that the majority of tri-band phones will have built in modem
> > support.  But you should check for sure.
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> there something new going on or can I just look for a manufacturer which
> charges less?

I use my V300 as a GPRS modem.  Of course, you will pay $20 month for
unlimited access, but you will be running at near 56k speeds instead of
19.2.  A huge difference in usability.

George
Mike Schumann - 14 Jun 2005 23:20 GMT
Which tri-band phone have you discovered that does NOT have modem support?

Mike Schumann

>>I suspect that the majority of tri-band phones will have built in modem
>> support.  But you should check for sure.
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> this there something new going on or can I just look for a manufacturer
> which charges less?
news.rcn.com - 16 Jun 2005 18:46 GMT
All of the Blackberrys, a few Sony-Ericssons, most Motorolas, some Samsungs:
It's all very confusing

> Which tri-band phone have you discovered that does NOT have modem support?
Mike Schumann - 17 Jun 2005 02:05 GMT
Most Motorolas????  Give me some specific models.  The Motorola tribands I
looked at all work as modems.

Mike Schumann

> All of the Blackberrys, a few Sony-Ericssons, most Motorolas, some
> Samsungs: It's all very confusing
>
>> Which tri-band phone have you discovered that does NOT have modem
>> support?
Bruce Markowitz - 22 Jun 2005 01:36 GMT
the Samsung E105 will do it, BUT
You need to pay T-Mo $10 per month for the digital to analog
conversion, and this is for ANY phone on their network.
So, you really are better off with the $19.95 T-Mobile Internet, which
I find very reliable, and I am on line with it at least 5-6 hours per
day!

>>I suspect that the majority of tri-band phones will have built in modem
>> support.  But you should check for sure.
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>there something new going on or can I just look for a manufacturer which
>charges less?
Mike Schumann - 22 Jun 2005 07:53 GMT
I believe you are mistaken.  CSD is a standard offering on all T-Mobile
voice plans at no extra charge.  With CSD, you can make or receive FAX or
data calls to any number using your voice minutes.  The only down side is
that speed is limited to 9.6KB.  The only issue is whether you have a phone
that has a built in modem capability.

Mike Schumann

> the Samsung E105 will do it, BUT
> You need to pay T-Mo $10 per month for the digital to analog
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>>there something new going on or can I just look for a manufacturer which
>>charges less?
Kentish - 15 Jun 2005 13:06 GMT
If you have data plan from T-mo, this is the number to dial
*99***2#
This is for GPRS/EDGE access to the internet.
GPRS throughtput averaging 30-40kbps
EDGE throughtput averaging 130-170kbps

> My steam age Samsung just died and I wanted to buy a phone I can use as a
> modem
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> was limited to 19,200 baud at the moment) which I cant find details of
> anywhere either. Has anyone found out anything about this?
news.rcn.com - 16 Jun 2005 18:51 GMT
> If you have data plan from T-mo, this is the number to dial
> *99***2#
Not sure what this means: All I wanted to do was to
connect the phone to the computer and
have the phone dial my ISP and
exchange handshakes
so that the computer can access the internet and
I can get my email on my dozen or so mail boxes
without paying for the tmobile service?.

Where does *99***2# come in?
Kentish - 16 Jun 2005 22:03 GMT
If you have a cell phone that is GPRS/EDGE enabled, this is the number to
dial for T-mobile network. Once you successfully configured the cell phone
to use as the modem, this is the number to put in the dial up screen.

>> If you have data plan from T-mo, this is the number to dial
>> *99***2#
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>
> Where does *99***2# come in?
Michael - 17 Jun 2005 15:32 GMT
>> If you have data plan from T-mo, this is the number to dial
>> *99***2#
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>
> Where does *99***2# come in?

The *99***2# he refers to is if you _pay_ for service, I think what
you want is what I do........I use CSD to dial my isp and do email
and banking , while slooow it WILL work and is free.

I use a 6800 Nokia with a Nokia Data cable (can't get IR to work) .

The cable for Nokias HAS to be a 'Nokia' cable NOT a knock off.

Don't know what other phones do this.

Good luck
John Richards - 17 Jun 2005 18:55 GMT
>> If you have data plan from T-mo, this is the number to dial
>> *99***2#
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Where does *99***2# come in?

Instead of dialing in to your ISP, you dial *99***2#.
That gets you on the Internet with T-Mobile as your ISP.
Once your connected to the Internet, you can download your
own ISP mail accounts.

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Mike Schumann - 18 Jun 2005 02:43 GMT
He doesn't want to pay to be able to us T-Mobile as the ISP.  He wants to
use CSD to his own ISP using his voice minutes (at 9.6KB).

Mike Schumann

>>> If you have data plan from T-mo, this is the number to dial
>>> *99***2#
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> Once your connected to the Internet, you can download your
> own ISP mail accounts.
 
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