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Unlimited t-zones vs. T-MobileWeb????

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John Davison - 21 Sep 2005 00:01 GMT
What is the difference between these two services? They sound like the
same thing to me (there is a $1 price difference between the two).

Descriptions:

T-MobileWeb - Search the mobile web, find directions to the places you
want to go, get local, international and financial news, stock quotes,
weather, sports, play online games, email, community chat and more,
right at your fingertips anywhere you go.

Unlimited t-zones - Unlimited t-zones for $4.99 includes unlimited
Internet e-mail and Mobile Web content.

~J.
BruceR - 21 Sep 2005 05:16 GMT
As far as I can tell the only difference is the online games and the
chat function. This brings up an interesting point though. I, as well as
others here, have been trying to figure out how to make certain Java
Apps that require web access work.  Maybe the extra buck provides for
that since the games and chat might be Java Apps.
Does anyone here have the $5.99 T-Mobile Web here that could test this?
I may call cust svc about this tomorrow.

From:John Davison
jdaviso1@my-deja.com

> What is the difference between these two services? They sound like the
> same thing to me (there is a $1 price difference between the two).
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>
> ~J.
Cyrus Afzali - 22 Sep 2005 04:29 GMT
>What is the difference between these two services? They sound like the
>same thing to me (there is a $1 price difference between the two).

There's a big core difference T-Mobile Web allows you to receive
full-featured Web pages on devices that support them through a GPRS
connection. So if you have a Treo, a wireless card in a laptop or
whatever, with TM Web, you'll be surfing the whole Internet

T-Zones is WAP only.

>Descriptions:
>
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>
>~J.
John Davison - 22 Sep 2005 18:40 GMT
Does that mean with TM Web I can use my phone as a modem?

~J.
Cyrus Afzali - 23 Sep 2005 13:58 GMT
>Does that mean with TM Web I can use my phone as a modem?

You can use some phones as modems, but I don't believe you get the
true benefit of your full GPRS connection through them. Certainly the
easiest thing to do would be to equip your laptop with a PCMCIA card
and use that with a TM Internet plan. That would get you the same
throughput as a regular device.
Bruce Markowitz - 24 Sep 2005 03:02 GMT
Incorrect
The only way to access EDGE right now is thru a phone. You can use a
cable connection, IR or bluteooth

>>Does that mean with TM Web I can use my phone as a modem?
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>and use that with a TM Internet plan. That would get you the same
>throughput as a regular device.
Cyrus Afzali - 25 Sep 2005 04:56 GMT
>Incorrect
>The only way to access EDGE right now is thru a phone. You can use a
>cable connection, IR or bluteooth

The original question has NOTHING to do with EDGE, but rather T-Mobile
Internet. There are indeed PCMCIA cards available that will work just
fine with non-EDGE GPRS service -- which is all most people have
access to now anyway.

>>>Does that mean with TM Web I can use my phone as a modem?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>and use that with a TM Internet plan. That would get you the same
>>throughput as a regular device.
ja - 26 Sep 2005 13:40 GMT
Bruce is talking about Edge because you were talking about speed (full
capabilities is I think how you put it) using a phone vs a pc card.

You said that you cannot get the fastest connection through a phone, only a
pc card, and Bruce corrected you in that EDGE is available through a phone.
EDGE is the fastest GPRS connection you are talking about.

> The original question has NOTHING to do with EDGE, but rather T-Mobile
> Internet. There are indeed PCMCIA cards available that will work just
> fine with non-EDGE GPRS service -- which is all most people have
> access to now anyway.
>>
>>On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 08:58:59 -0400, Cyrus Afzali <pnsmnyv@lnubb.pbz>
.
Cyrus Afzali - 26 Sep 2005 20:14 GMT
>Bruce is talking about Edge because you were talking about speed (full
>capabilities is I think how you put it) using a phone vs a pc card.

No, I was talking about full web versus WAP, if I recall, but I may be
remembering incorrectly.

>You said that you cannot get the fastest connection through a phone, only a
>pc card, and Bruce corrected you in that EDGE is available through a phone.
>EDGE is the fastest GPRS connection you are talking about.

Well, most of T-Mobile's customers don't have access to EDGE, so the
discussion is largely academic at this point.

>> The original question has NOTHING to do with EDGE, but rather T-Mobile
>> Internet. There are indeed PCMCIA cards available that will work just
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>>>On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 08:58:59 -0400, Cyrus Afzali <pnsmnyv@lnubb.pbz>
>.
Steevo@my-deja.com - 23 Sep 2005 17:22 GMT
>What is the difference between these two services? They sound like the
>same thing to me (there is a $1 price difference between the two).
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>Unlimited t-zones - Unlimited t-zones for $4.99 includes unlimited
>Internet e-mail and Mobile Web content.

I have Tmobile Web at $5.99.  I find it pretty lousy.  For example you
only get port 8080, port 80 is blocked.  I am not really getting what
I asked for when I switched from Sprint, which is some reasonable web
browsing on my Razr.  

Also, my T-Mobile web is $5.99
The description is as follows:
"Search the mobile web, find directions to the places you want to go,
get local, international and financial news, stock quotes, weather,
sports, play online games, email, community chat and more, right at
your fingertips anywhere you go."

On my my.tmobile.com the T-Zones Pro is 9.99, the description is as
follows:
"$9.99 Unlimited t-zones pro also includes unlimited access to
corporate email, outlook and contacts, and news and information."

I think it used to be $19.99 a month ago.  Curious.

The interesting part is the difference between what the OP posted and
what I just got from the Tmobile website (logged in).  

Could these services and prices really differ in different areas for
different customers?  

I want much better web access than I am getting.
 
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