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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / T-Mobile / May 2006Unlimited T-Zones vs. T-Mobile Web and using either as PC modem
Hi, I have 2 loosely related questions, I'm in Cleveland, Ohio, so I'm with T-Mo USA. I have had the $4.99 a month Unlimited T-Zones plan for about 2 and a half years now. Now I see that T-Mo has T-Mobile Web for $5.99 a month. I can't see what the real difference is via their description. There is also the "Included WAP access" that seems to be free for everyone. With my Unlimited T-Zones plan, I can access many parts of the "real" web with Doris Browser, but not everything, such as secure pages. I'm OK with that. Will dropping the Unlimited T-Zones plan, and just using the "Included WAP access" allow me to access the web with the Doris Browser? Or does the T-Mobile Web have any benefit for me over the Unlimited T-Zones plan? My other question is that I used to be able to use my GPRS connection as a modem to connect my PC online, as my phone (Nokia 3650) and my PC have Bluetooth. I could, at one time, actually surf on my PC using Internet Explorer or FireFox, although it was pretty slow going, and I couldn't access everything, it was handy on rare occasions when my cable modem was down. I have no landline, so no back-up dial-up connection available. My OS is Windows XP Pro SP2. My phone still seems to connect, using the *99# number, it says I'm verified and connected, and the double monitor modem icon appears in my taskbar, however, every webpage I go to times out or can't be displayed, depending if I use FireFox or IE. After it times out, I lose the modem icon, and I have to go to Connect To and choose my Bluetooth connection again. There is something going on, because I can use my Outlook Express to check for new email, and it will go thru my accounts, slowly, instead of telling me there's no connection. I been to several web pages, saying to put this IP address or that into my phone's connection settings and right now have 2 access points set up identically, as I don't now which one that *99# tries to access: 2 access points named "GPRS Internet" and "t-zones". Again I used the same settings for both: Data Bearer: GPRS Access point name: wap.voicestream.com User name: nokia Prompt password: no Password: (blank when opening text box, even though it shows 4 stars when closing) Authentication: Normal Gateway IP address: 216.155.165.50 Homepage: http://www.myvoicestream.com Connection security: Off Session mode: Permanent Advanced: Phone IP address: Dynamic Primary name server: 216.155.175.105 Secondary name server: 216.155.175.106 (I also tried both nameservers at the default 0.0.0.0 with no luck) Server address: 216.155.165.50 Port number: 8080 There is also an MMS point which I never messed with, so it should be at default. Under connection settings, under access points, there's a setting that just says GPRS with 2 settings: GPRS connection: When available (the other option is When needed) and Access point: wap.voicestream.com This is all I can find in the phone's settings. Thanks much for any help. TZones is the grandfathered version of TMo Web. Same thing - just a diffent name and higher price. > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > This is all I can find in the phone's settings. Thanks much for any > help. T-Mobile Web is the same thing as T-Zones: at some point, they increased the price by a dollar and changed the name. You have to have one of these on your account if you want to browse the web. (BTW, you should be able to connect to secure sites, too.) "Included WAP access" is free with every plan, but it only lets you connect to the T-Zones wap portal and download stuff like ringtones and wallpapers for your phone; it won't let you browse any other sites. As far as using the phone as a modem goes, I suspect that your problem is the lack of proxy server configuration on the PC. In the browser options (not in the dial-up connection properties), you have to specify a proxy server. For example, in IE, go to the Internet Options, Connections tab, select your dial-up connection, click Settings, check the Proxy server box, and specify the address 216.155.165.50 and the port 8080 there. You should do something similar in Firefox. Then, all should work.  Signature\/ L /\ D Hi, I have 2 loosely related questions, I'm in Cleveland, Ohio, so I'm with T-Mo USA. I have had the $4.99 a month Unlimited T-Zones plan for about 2 and a half years now. Now I see that T-Mo has T-Mobile Web for $5.99 a month. I can't see what the real difference is via their description. There is also the "Included WAP access" that seems to be free for everyone. With my Unlimited T-Zones plan, I can access many parts of the "real" web with Doris Browser, but not everything, such as secure pages. I'm OK with that. Will dropping the Unlimited T-Zones plan, and just using the "Included WAP access" allow me to access the web with the Doris Browser? Or does the T-Mobile Web have any benefit for me over the Unlimited T-Zones plan? My other question is that I used to be able to use my GPRS connection as a modem to connect my PC online, as my phone (Nokia 3650) and my PC have Bluetooth. I could, at one time, actually surf on my PC using Internet Explorer or FireFox, although it was pretty slow going, and I couldn't access everything, it was handy on rare occasions when my cable modem was down. I have no landline, so no back-up dial-up connection available. My OS is Windows XP Pro SP2. My phone still seems to connect, using the *99# number, it says I'm verified and connected, and the double monitor modem icon appears in my taskbar, however, every webpage I go to times out or can't be displayed, depending if I use FireFox or IE. After it times out, I lose the modem icon, and I have to go to Connect To and choose my Bluetooth connection again. There is something going on, because I can use my Outlook Express to check for new email, and it will go thru my accounts, slowly, instead of telling me there's no connection. I been to several web pages, saying to put this IP address or that into my phone's connection settings and right now have 2 access points set up identically, as I don't now which one that *99# tries to access: 2 access points named "GPRS Internet" and "t-zones". Again I used the same settings for both: Data Bearer: GPRS Access point name: wap.voicestream.com User name: nokia Prompt password: no Password: (blank when opening text box, even though it shows 4 stars when closing) Authentication: Normal Gateway IP address: 216.155.165.50 Homepage: http://www.myvoicestream.com Connection security: Off Session mode: Permanent Advanced: Phone IP address: Dynamic Primary name server: 216.155.175.105 Secondary name server: 216.155.175.106 (I also tried both nameservers at the default 0.0.0.0 with no luck) Server address: 216.155.165.50 Port number: 8080 There is also an MMS point which I never messed with, so it should be at default. Under connection settings, under access points, there's a setting that just says GPRS with 2 settings: GPRS connection: When available (the other option is When needed) and Access point: wap.voicestream.com This is all I can find in the phone's settings. Thanks much for any help. Thanks much! Worked like a charm! I don't think I had to use a proxy in my browser before, but either I don't remember or something has changed. I put the proxy info in IE, didn't try FF yet, but just what I have with IE is great for the times when my cable modem goes down, maybe once a month for a couple of hours. Using GPRS isn't the fastest way to surf, but in an emergency, it's better than nothing! Thanks again. Do I have to remove all the settings I put in my phone, or can I just leave as is? Seems like the web works OK as is with Doris browser. > T-Mobile Web is the same thing as T-Zones: at some point, they increased > the [quoted text clipped - 91 lines] > > This is all I can find in the phone's settings. Thanks much for any help. I'm glad it worked. You only need one access point (and only one can be selected active). The same access point can be used for browsing with the phone and using the phone as a modem. It sounds like you have two identically configured points with different names. I suppose you could clear out the second one and make sure that the first one is set active. It doesn't matter what you name it, but the settings you got appear to be correct, especially since they work. :) Signature\/ L /\ D Thanks much! Worked like a charm! I don't think I had to use a proxy in my browser before, but either I don't remember or something has changed. I put the proxy info in IE, didn't try FF yet, but just what I have with IE is great for the times when my cable modem goes down, maybe once a month for a couple of hours. Using GPRS isn't the fastest way to surf, but in an emergency, it's better than nothing! Thanks again. Do I have to remove all the settings I put in my phone, or can I just leave as is? Seems like the web works OK as is with Doris browser. > T-Mobile Web is the same thing as T-Zones: at some point, they increased > the [quoted text clipped - 91 lines] > > This is all I can find in the phone's settings. Thanks much for any help. If I sign up for T-Mobile Web for $5.99 can I access everything from my PC? How about setting up VPN connections to my server at work? If this works, why would anyone sign up for the $20 internet plan? Mike Schumann > T-Mobile Web is the same thing as T-Zones: at some point, they increased > the [quoted text clipped - 91 lines] > > This is all I can find in the phone's settings. Thanks much for any help. TMo Web/ TZones won't allow access to port 80 but using Opera Mini I can pretty much access anything - including things that I can't get to bu just sending a URL through the TZones browser. I've never tried with a PC though so I can't really answer your question. > If I sign up for T-Mobile Web for $5.99 can I access everything from > my PC? How about setting up VPN connections to my server at work? If [quoted text clipped - 102 lines] >> This is all I can find in the phone's settings. Thanks much for any >> help. You can browse web sites through a proxy server and use an email client on your PC, but not much else will work: no instant messaging, no streaming media, no VPN. I don't have the Internet plan myself, but I understand that it lets you do these other things. Signature\/ L /\ D If I sign up for T-Mobile Web for $5.99 can I access everything from my PC? How about setting up VPN connections to my server at work? If this works, why would anyone sign up for the $20 internet plan? Mike Schumann |
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