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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / T-Mobile / September 2006Data on 850mhz romaing networks
Can anyone verify that you can or can't do data when roaming onto any of t-mobiles 850mhz partner or roaming areas? Any differences I should be aware of? I've called t-mobile about this 3 times and litterally got 3 different answers. 1 - Yeah, it all works 2 - Yep, web browsing only but cant check email or anything else. 3 - Nope, we wont guarantee anything and we just dont know, so we assume no So, I'm looking for someone that may know, or have attempted it before. And if it matters, I'm on the t-zones or whatever they are calling it this month (the cheap plan, only allows basic web browsing and email, all other ports are blocked and must use proxy server for web browsing). I also use this in a teathered setup. >Can anyone verify that you can or can't do data when roaming onto any of >t-mobiles 850mhz partner or roaming areas? Any differences I should be [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >So, I'm looking for someone that may know, or have attempted it before. The short answer is: it depends. Roaming agreements vary with the various carriers. Some only give us voice coverage and not GPRS, and some give us everything. I wouldn't be surprised if, for the most part, you only get voice. That's the way it is with Unicel in the Northeast, and I believe it's the same with others. >And if it matters, I'm on the t-zones or whatever they are calling it this >month (the cheap plan, only allows basic web browsing and email, all other >ports are blocked and must use proxy server for web browsing). I also use >this in a teathered setup. In alt.cellular.t-mobile Jerry Cloe <tom@staff.showmeisp.net> wrote: > Can anyone verify that you can or can't do data when roaming onto any of > t-mobiles 850mhz partner or roaming areas? Any differences I should be [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > 2 - Yep, web browsing only but cant check email or anything else. > 3 - Nope, we wont guarantee anything and we just dont know, so we assume no #3 is correct. You might get features and you might not, depending upon where you are.  SignatureThomas T. Veldhouse Key Fingerprint: 2DB9 813F F510 82C2 E1AE 34D0 D69D 1EDC D5EC AED1 CSD does NOT work on Dobson. Mike Schumann > Can anyone verify that you can or can't do data when roaming onto any of > t-mobiles 850mhz partner or roaming areas? Any differences I should be [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > ports are blocked and must use proxy server for web browsing). I also use > this in a teathered setup. > CSD does NOT work on Dobson. > > Mike Schumann GPRS does work with Dobson (wap and internet2). Our Sony Ericsson T616 (unlocked) requires powering off and powering on to get a GPRS signal when crossing into Dobson in Minnesota. Voice switches over just fine. Nothing shows up on the bill for roaming, and we have used it (patiently) for internet access at our cabin. Does this mean there are no data roaming charges for anyone? > Nothing shows up on the bill for roaming, and we have used it > (patiently) for internet access at our cabin. > > Does this mean there are no data roaming charges for anyone? I have consistently been told by t-mobile that regardless of what works and what doesn't, I shouldn't expect to see any additional charges when I am roaming. The only catch to this seems to be that my t-mobile to t-mobile minutes do not apply, so if I call another t-mobile phone, they are coming out of the regular minutes (I asked for clarification, and the response seems to be on evenings/weekends I'm completely unlimited, and during the day, calling another t-mobile phone just comes out of my anytime minutes). >CSD does NOT work on Dobson. Just to provide more fodder for this topic, I was recently in the Southeast (TN, to be exact) and could NOT roam on Cingular's 850 network, despite having a capable device and roaming maps that showed we could. T-Mobile's CSRs opened a trouble ticket and said I should update my handheld's software, which I couldn't do since I didn't travel with my cable or a copy of the Blackberry software. So, as of now, I'm not sure exactly what the problem is, but it's the first time I've been unable to roam in an area where I should have. >Mike Schumann > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> ports are blocked and must use proxy server for web browsing). I also use >> this in a teathered setup. Not sure what part of TN you were in, but I was in Knoxville, Gatlinburg and Pigeon Forge TN last week and was able to roam on Cingular and had access to web and emails. At first I didn't have coverage, but I remembered someone recently suggested to turn the phone off, take the battery out, put it back in, so I tried that and after I turned it back on the phone went from zero coverage to 3-4 bars on Cingular. I also have a Blackberry, 7105. Now I don't know if I was on the 850 network or not, but at least I was on a network. JPH >>CSD does NOT work on Dobson. > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >>>ports are blocked and must use proxy server for web browsing). I also use >>>this in a teathered setup. >Not sure what part of TN you were in, but I was in Knoxville, Gatlinburg >and Pigeon Forge TN last week and was able to roam on Cingular and had [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Now I don't know if I was on the 850 network or not, but at least I was >on a network. I was in the western part of the state, about an hour from Jackson. I did the battery thing and rebooted the Blackberry. Since returning back to NY, I upgraded the operating software on the phone, which might help the situation. But I've roamed on 850 networks before doing that, so I suspect something was up. >JPH > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >>>>ports are blocked and must use proxy server for web browsing). I also use >>>>this in a teathered setup. > Not sure what part of TN you were in, but I was in Knoxville, Gatlinburg > and Pigeon Forge TN last week and was able to roam on Cingular and had [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > JPH Cingular's Knoxville and east network is PCS only. There's 850 MHz cellular in the Chattanooga area, as well as Middle and West Tennessee. There an additional patch of PCS only in NW TN, Dyersburg to Paris and north. John C. [ msc snippage ] >> Not sure what part of TN you were in, but I was in Knoxville, Gatlinburg >> and Pigeon Forge TN last week and was able to roam on Cingular and had [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> on the phone went from zero coverage to 3-4 bars on Cingular. I also >> have a Blackberry, 7105. I was in upstate NY a couple of weeks ago near Fallsberg, NY (that's about 10 miles northeest of Monticello. I lost coverage somewhere or another on NYS Route 17 (soon to be interrstate , umm, something). Anyway, _after_ having to find payphones up there (which is another story) and meeting up with my friends, I had the bright idea of doing network searches. Sure enough, there was a strong signal for Dobson Cellular and I was able to call out on it. Per the t-mobile map, that area is listed as 850 mhz roaming coverage. (My phone is a many years old Nokia 3595, and my SIM is an ancient Omnipoint one. I don't know if newer phones/sims will roam automatically). Signature_____________________________________________________ Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key dannyb@panix.com [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded] > [ msc snippage ] > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >know if newer phones/sims will roam >automatically). I've had to do manual searches a lot with Nokias, which I love, by the way, regardless of the SIM age. TM officially says the age of the SIM can make a difference, but I don't see how it technically should, as long as there's space on it to hold the new roaming table info. [ snip ] >I've had to do manual searches a lot with Nokias, which I love, by the >way, regardless of the SIM age. TM officially says the age of the SIM >can make a difference, but I don't see how it technically should, as >long as there's space on it to hold the new roaming table info. Would an original OmniPoint SIM even have memory slots for roaming info? Remember, back then it was _only_ Omnipoint, no others... (plus, of course, it's a pretty small one, memorywise) Signature_____________________________________________________ Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key dannyb@panix.com [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded] > [ snip ] > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >for roaming info? Remember, back then it was _only_ >Omnipoint, no others... I can't be positive, because I didn't come aboard until the VoiceStream days. But they're usually made roughly the same as far as the ability to store roaming tables and system info. The only thing that early ones don't have are room for large address books or room to put things used by advanced phones, like a lot of ringtones or other downloadables. >(plus, of course, it's a pretty small one, memorywise) > Would an original OmniPoint SIM even have memory slots > for roaming info? Remember, back then it was _only_ > Omnipoint, no others... In order to roam on Dobson, we had to replace our Voicestream SIM with a T-Mobile. We could not log onto Dobson's network with an old Voicestream SIM. So your roaming capability may be limited. |
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