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Should I switch to t-mobile?

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George  Weischadle - 01 Nov 2003 03:37 GMT
I live in the West San Fernando Valley, Los Angeles (a fringe area) and am
using AT&T TDMA which has decent (95%) coverage out here.  BUT ... I'd like
to try GSM and I'd like to have Internet access.  T-mobile is attractive
because of their pricing.  Should I switch?  Will coverage be much worse
than I have now with AT&T?

Thanks,
George
Jay B - 01 Nov 2003 03:50 GMT
>Subject: Should I switch to t-mobile?
>From: "George Weischadle" gweischadle@earthlink.net
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>Thanks,
>George
They have a 14 day trial period, no contract penalty if you cancel.   If you
question the coverage, id say sign up and give it a real test in the 14 days,
and return it if you dont think it will do the job.  I'm in minnesota, I know
where mine works and doesnt work, and am a happy camper.  Jay
Marcio Watanabe - 01 Nov 2003 07:28 GMT
>They have a 14 day trial period, no contract penalty if you cancel.   If you
>question the coverage, id say sign up and give it a real test in the 14 days,
>and return it if you dont think it will do the job.  I'm in minnesota, I know
>where mine works and doesnt work, and am a happy camper.  Jay

I'm considering a trial (I'm also in Los Angeles with AT&T tdma).
What do you get charged if you cancel within the 14 day trial period?
Do you get charged for the actual calls made, or the monthly fee
pro-rated?   Do you get your activation fee refunded?  

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Marcio Watanabe
^'^BatAttaK^'^ - 01 Nov 2003 09:33 GMT
>>They have a 14 day trial period, no contract penalty if you cancel.   If you
>>question the coverage, id say sign up and give it a real test in the 14 days,
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>Do you get charged for the actual calls made, or the monthly fee
>pro-rated?   Do you get your activation fee refunded?  

The activation fee is credited at cancellation.  You are only liable
for the usage and the pro-rated monthly access charges.
Rich Cacace - 01 Nov 2003 13:30 GMT
You won't get the activation fee refunded if you don't get service through a
T-Mobil store.  There are a lot of independent dealers around that don't
participate in the refund.  I suppose they get a cut of the $35 activation
fee & their not going to give it up if you cancel the service.

> The activation fee is credited at cancellation.  You are only liable
> for the usage and the pro-rated monthly access charges.
^'^BatAttaK^'^ - 02 Nov 2003 08:43 GMT
>You won't get the activation fee refunded if you don't get service through a
>T-Mobil store.  There are a lot of independent dealers around that don't
>participate in the refund.  I suppose they get a cut of the $35 activation
>fee & their not going to give it up if you cancel the service.

Rich brings up a good point.  Indirect delaers may also charge their
own ETF as well.  You best best is to go to an actual direct T-Mobile
store to activate service.  They may not be able to drop the price of
the handset as low as some of the indirects will but they will also
not hit you with any hidden additional fees.

Find one here:
http://www.t-mobile.com/company/stores/
Marcio Watanabe - 03 Nov 2003 02:30 GMT
>Rich brings up a good point.  Indirect delaers may also charge their
>own ETF as well.  You best best is to go to an actual direct T-Mobile
>store to activate service.  They may not be able to drop the price of
>the handset as low as some of the indirects will but they will also
>not hit you with any hidden additional fees.

Thanks for the heads up.  I was going to order one from amazon.com.
They are having good rebates right now.

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Marcio Watanabe
crash - 01 Nov 2003 12:55 GMT
main thing to remember is cancel within 14 days if you are not
satisfied. otherwise you become another tmobile sucks moron. i signed
up and am pretty happy with service for the most part. i'm probably
switching to verizon in the spring to get the better coverage but
overall i've been pretty happy and have coverage in 90% of my area. i
may switch to a data plan for my ppcpe and switch to verizon for
calling until tmobile expands there calling area in the upstate ny
area. give your phone a good workout those 14 days and if you are not
satisfied cancel BEFORE the 14 days are up. (sorry for the caps but
you would not believe how may people miss that detail).
ef - 01 Nov 2003 15:00 GMT
ask your fd and collegues and borrow a phone
then run around the area you often use
tip: get samsung or nokia, even moto for reception
stay away from SE, the reception is bad
generally, I am happy w/tmo (with nokia n-gage, the reception is top-notch)
their GPRS has exceptional value
just 20 for addon, I have mobile/backup isp

George Weischadle wrote:

>I live in the West San Fernando Valley, Los Angeles (a fringe area) and am
>using AT&T TDMA which has decent (95%) coverage out here.  BUT ... I'd like
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Thanks,
>George
SJS - 02 Nov 2003 19:12 GMT
I have had T-Mobile for 8 years (Omnipoint first) and love it.  I currently
live in LA, and have no more problems than any of my friends and colleagues
have with their carriers.  Most of the time, I think mine is better than
theirs (sound quality, dropped calls)

Order a phone from Amazon.com.  The generally have some of the best deals,
and you still get the 14-day trial period.  You just have to call T-Mobile
BEFORE the 14 days are up and cancel your service with them, if you so
choose.  The "initiation fee" is credited to your account, and you are only
liable for the calls you made/prorated service plan charges.
> I live in the West San Fernando Valley, Los Angeles (a fringe area) and am
> using AT&T TDMA which has decent (95%) coverage out here.  BUT ... I'd like
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Thanks,
> George
^'^BatAttaK^'^ - 03 Nov 2003 03:34 GMT
>Order a phone from Amazon.com.  The generally have some of the best deals,
>and you still get the 14-day trial period.

Actually, with Amazon the trial period is 30 days.
Charles Hawtrey - 03 Nov 2003 03:54 GMT
>I have had T-Mobile for 8 years (Omnipoint first) and love it.  I currently
>live in LA, and have no more problems than any of my friends and colleagues
>have with their carriers.  Most of the time, I think mine is better than
>theirs (sound quality, dropped calls)

I am becoming convinced that this is due to the phone that one uses at
least as much as (if not more than) the carrier.  When I used my SE
T300 I was rather dissatisfied with T-Mobile.  But in the time since I
bought a Motorola P280, T-Mobile has become a much better carrier. :-)

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frankjg - 02 Nov 2003 23:42 GMT
> I live in the West San Fernando Valley, Los Angeles (a fringe area) and am
> using AT&T TDMA which has decent (95%) coverage out here.  BUT ... I'd like
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Thanks,
> George

I have t-mobile GSM/GPRS service for some 6 months now. I travel
through out the Western US and have been very pleased with not only
the phone service but the very excellent customer service. These folks
will do all in their power to see that you are happy with their
service.
Doug - 03 Nov 2003 22:13 GMT
>I live in the West San Fernando Valley, Los Angeles (a fringe area) and am
>using AT&T TDMA which has decent (95%) coverage out here.  BUT ... I'd like
>to try GSM and I'd like to have Internet access.  T-mobile is attractive
>because of their pricing.  Should I switch?  Will coverage be much worse
>than I have now with AT&T?

Check the signal strength in areas you frequent:

http://onlinestore.cingular.com/images/Western/Maps/Local%20Maps/03_26_03/

Doug
Tom Parker - 04 Nov 2003 11:25 GMT
Before switching to T-Mobile, I suggest you visit
"http://t-mobile-sucks.ws/"
It revels the ever so common horror stories users from T-Mobile
encounter.

If T-Mobiles was so great, why is there a web site dedicated to users
who have had problem after problem with them?

> >I live in the West San Fernando Valley, Los Angeles (a fringe area) and am
> >using AT&T TDMA which has decent (95%) coverage out here.  BUT ... I'd like
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Doug
Joshua Lawson - 04 Nov 2003 11:44 GMT
Not necessarily to defend T-Mobile, but many companies have websites about
how much they suck. Verizon used to have a site dedicated to them when they
were Bell Atlantic wireless. However, when they changed their name to
Verizon, they registered VerizonSucks.com before anyone else could.
"Tom Parker" <tomparker@rn.com> wrote in message
> If T-Mobiles was so great, why is there a web site dedicated to users
> who have had problem after problem with them?
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> >
> > Check the signal strength in areas you frequent:

http://onlinestore.cingular.com/images/Western/Maps/Local%20Maps/03_26_03/

> > Doug
Cyrus Afzali - 04 Nov 2003 12:08 GMT
>Not necessarily to defend T-Mobile, but many companies have websites about
>how much they suck. Verizon used to have a site dedicated to them when they
>were Bell Atlantic wireless. However, when they changed their name to
>Verizon, they registered VerizonSucks.com before anyone else could.

Yes, and it's interesting to note that if you read any of the many
stories that have done about the approaching number portability, many
of the customers say they're dumping Verizon Wireless. Now, that
stands to reason that some will since they're the largest by far, but
it proves that even they have problems.

>"Tom Parker" <tomparker@rn.com> wrote in message
>> If T-Mobiles was so great, why is there a web site dedicated to users
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>> >
>> > Doug
Jatniel Juran - 04 Nov 2003 19:38 GMT
> If T-Mobiles was so great, why is there a web site dedicated to users
> who have had problem after problem with them?

Because some people have nothing else of value in their lives and find that
whining and complaining about someone or something else eclipses that
reality.
gopi - 04 Nov 2003 20:19 GMT
> Before switching to T-Mobile, I suggest you visit
> "http://t-mobile-sucks.ws/"
> It revels the ever so common horror stories users from T-Mobile
> encounter.
> If T-Mobiles was so great, why is there a web site dedicated to users
> who have had problem after problem with them?

If Verizon is so much better, why did they have to register
"verizonsucks.com" at the same time they registered "verizon.com"?

http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,36210,00.html

Not only that, but they threatened 2600 magazine when they registered
"verizonreallysucks.com".

Verizon's so afraid of their customers, they have to file frivolous
lawsuits against people with the audacity to criticize them.
Joshua Lawson - 05 Nov 2003 03:37 GMT
Yep, 2600 is where I first heard about this. They published a list of all
the domain names that Verizon registered and it was quite long.
> If Verizon is so much better, why did they have to register
> "verizonsucks.com" at the same time they registered "verizon.com"?
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Verizon's so afraid of their customers, they have to file frivolous
> lawsuits against people with the audacity to criticize them.
Tom Parker - 05 Nov 2003 04:05 GMT
How are you any different from Verizon?  You have the audacity to
criticize people who hate T-Mobile.

> > Before switching to T-Mobile, I suggest you visit
> > "http://t-mobile-sucks.ws/"
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> Verizon's so afraid of their customers, they have to file frivolous
> lawsuits against people with the audacity to criticize them.
gopi - 06 Nov 2003 00:04 GMT
> How are you any different from Verizon?  You have the audacity to
> criticize people who hate T-Mobile.

Verizon was using lawyers to stop people from criticizing them. I have
done nothing at all to stop you from criticizing T-Mobile.

Expressing dissent on Usenet is fundamentally different from trying to
shut down a forum that is critical of your company. Verizon didn't
want anybody to hear the complaints against them. I'm fine with people
reading your problems with T-Mobile. I want people to read what you
think, what I think, and what everybody else here thinks, and form
their own opinions.

Do you understand the fundamental difference between more speech about
a topic, and an attempt to prohibit speech about a topic?

The other obvious difference is I'm a random poster on usenet, and
Verizon is a billion dollar company threatening to sue people. You can
ignore me, and nothing will happen. Ignore Verizon's teams of lawyers,
and you'll quickly realize the difference.
^'^BatAttaK^'^ - 05 Nov 2003 13:09 GMT
>Before switching to T-Mobile, I suggest you visit
>"http://t-mobile-sucks.ws/"
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>If T-Mobiles was so great, why is there a web site dedicated to users
>who have had problem after problem with them?

Blah blah blah.  If we were to judge a carrier by one really poorly
made website then no one would have wireless service.  Apparently they
all suck.

http://www.verizon-sucks.com/
http://www.sprintpcssucks.org/
http://www.angelfire.com/tx/sprintsucks/
http://www.attsucks.com/
http://sprintpcs-sucks.org/
http://www.drinkdeeplyanddream.com/hatecingular/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cingularsucks2/
http://www.angelfire.com/hi5/cingularsucks/
http://www.nextelsucks.org
http://www.alltelsucks.org/
Joshua Lawson - 06 Nov 2003 00:36 GMT
Exactly my point. Cheers.
> Blah blah blah.  If we were to judge a carrier by one really poorly
> made website then no one would have wireless service.  Apparently they
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> http://www.nextelsucks.org
> http://www.alltelsucks.org/
Jason McGehee - 07 Nov 2003 08:24 GMT
This is the best list of losers who do not have lives and have not else
better to do with their time.  I wonder what grand contribution to mankind
these individual made?

> >Before switching to T-Mobile, I suggest you visit
> >"http://t-mobile-sucks.ws/"
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> http://www.nextelsucks.org
> http://www.alltelsucks.org/
B4What - 22 Feb 2008 03:35 GMT
T-Mobile is very bad coverage in the Gulf Coast area of Panhandle Florida.
They will not service their customers or towers as promised.  I would not use
them if using for business purposes. In CA. I am sure you will eventually
have trouble with them.  If you own your on phone by law they or any for that
matter can not force you to sign a long term contract unless never had cell
service b4.

>I live in the West San Fernando Valley, Los Angeles (a fringe area) and am
>using AT&T TDMA which has decent (95%) coverage out here.  BUT ... I'd like
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Thanks,
>George
 
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