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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / T-Mobile / November 2003Voicestream=T-Mobile? Phones locked same?
I saw a Voicestream PCMCIA card at a pretty cheap price. But there is no Voicestream here, only TMobile and Cingular. Is Voicestream the same as Tmobile? I'm worried about the carrier lock. Are PCMCIA cards carrier locked at all? The card doesn't have a SIM in it, I would get aTMobile voice phone and I think I can stick the SIM in the PCMCIA when I want to use it. Are my assumptions correct? Same company. > I saw a Voicestream PCMCIA card at a pretty cheap price. But there is > no Voicestream here, only TMobile and Cingular. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Are my assumptions correct? Can we change the name of this newsgroup to reflect the change - or maybe this is in the works already? /g > Same company. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > > > Are my assumptions correct? >Can we change the name of this newsgroup to reflect the change - or maybe >this is in the works already? Once a group is created it's hard or impossible to remove it. It was discussed a while back that someone would create a group such as alt.cellular.gsm.carriers.t-mobile.us but for whatever reason it was decided to just keep using the a.c.g.c.v group as is. Most people know that voicestream is now T-Mobile USA. >/g > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> > >> > Are my assumptions correct? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To send an email reply send to GSMthemobilestandard (@) yahoo.com But your assumption of just sticking in a SIM provisioned for a Voice plan and just pounding away on the net is incorrect. You will need the SIM card provisoned for an appropriate DATA plan. > I saw a Voicestream PCMCIA card at a pretty cheap price. But there is > no Voicestream here, only TMobile and Cingular. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Are my assumptions correct? >But your assumption of just sticking in a SIM provisioned for a Voice plan >and just pounding away on the net is incorrect. You will need the SIM card >provisoned for an appropriate DATA plan. The other thing I would worry about is the fact that if it still says VoiceStream on it that it may no longer be supported. Meaning that if you have problems with it you won't be able to do an exchange through Customer Care. >The other thing I would worry about is the fact that if it still says >VoiceStream on it that it may no longer be supported. Meaning that if >you have problems with it you won't be able to do an exchange through >Customer Care. My first phone bought from a reseller was a Nokia 6100 - can't recall exact model. Phone, upon power up, said VoiceStream, and was stuck in roaming mode. T-mobile promptly sent me a replacement, it said Cingular. I've gone through 4 replacements of that phone (each one had a different problem - HORRIBLE QC). Each phone said Cingular. Evan To e-mail me, remove theobvious from my e-mail address. >My first phone bought from a reseller was a Nokia 6100 - can't recall >exact model. Phone, upon power up, said VoiceStream, and was stuck in >roaming mode. T-mobile promptly sent me a replacement, it said >Cingular. I've gone through 4 replacements of that phone (each one had >a different problem - HORRIBLE QC). Each phone said Cingular. If you are in California or Nevada it will always say cingular as T-Mobile uses cingular's network in California and Nevada. Did you bother to ask customer care why your phone said cingular or did you automatically assume that something was wrong? I don't understand why people are so afraid to call customer care. It's not as if it's costing them extra to do it! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To send an email reply send to GSMthemobilestandard (@) yahoo.com >If you are in California or Nevada it will always say cingular as >T-Mobile uses cingular's network in California and Nevada. Did you >bother to ask customer care why your phone said cingular or did you >automatically assume that something was wrong? No, that had nothing to do with the problems each of the 4 phones I had had. One phone the 369# row on the keypad didn't work. One randomally powered off. One had no audio. I can't recall the other problems. And the "Cingular" issue - Yes, I know about the T-Mobile / Cingular relationship. And yes, I took it to a T-Mobile store. Their phones say T-Mobile. They can't explain why those phones said Cingular. My Ericsson r520m (current phone) says Cingular too. Almost every other phone I've seen says T-Mobile. >I don't understand why people are so afraid to call customer care. >It's not as if it's costing them extra to do it! Don't lump me in that bunch. I've called and visited their store. To e-mail me, remove theobvious from my e-mail address. >And the "Cingular" issue - Yes, I know about the T-Mobile / Cingular >relationship. And yes, I took it to a T-Mobile store. Their phones say >T-Mobile. They can't explain why those phones said Cingular. My >Ericsson r520m (current phone) says Cingular too. > >Almost every other phone I've seen says T-Mobile. Which SIM is in the phone also is a determining factor. The new "EONS" SIMs were specially made so that the operator identity would show correctly. If you have a pre EONS card in the phone it will probably show what the phone senses as the available network which in CA and NV would be cingular. My phone which is fairly new says cingular in NV, but says T-Mobile elsewhere. Since T-Mobile consolidated the MCC-MNC to 310-26 everyone should theoretically have T-Mobile on their handsets unless the handset is *very* old or if they're in CA/NV. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To send an email reply send to GSMthemobilestandard (@) yahoo.com I bet you live in California? > >The other thing I would worry about is the fact that if it still says > >VoiceStream on it that it may no longer be supported. Meaning that if [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Evan > To e-mail me, remove theobvious from my e-mail address. >I bet you live in California? Yes. And the two other sucke... people here who have T-Mobile phones, theirs say T-Mobile. No one's been able to explain why myne says Cingular. Evan To e-mail me, remove theobvious from my e-mail address. >No one's been able to explain why myne says Cingular. Maybe if you paid your bill on time, it would say T-Mobile. RDT  Signature"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries." --- Sir Winston Churchill > But your assumption of just sticking in a SIM provisioned for a Voice plan > and just pounding away on the net is incorrect. You will need the SIM card > provisoned for an appropriate DATA plan. Actually you could "pound away on the net" via CSD using voice plan minutes (at 9.6kbps!) T-Mo unlimited "WAP over GPRS" data add-ons now start at $4.99/month, and will allow access to most of the net as well as POP3 e-mail. Those Merlin G100 cards are so cheap on eBay these days that a GPRS card for your SIM is often cheaper than a proprietary PC-to-phone data cable! >> But your assumption of just sticking in a SIM provisioned for a Voice plan >> and just pounding away on the net is incorrect. You will need the SIM card >> provisoned for an appropriate DATA plan. I was aware of that. I think it's $20 a month. >T-Mo unlimited "WAP over GPRS" data add-ons now start at $4.99/month, >and will allow access to most of the net as well as POP3 e-mail. > >Those Merlin G100 cards are so cheap on eBay these days that a GPRS >card for your SIM is often cheaper than a proprietary PC-to-phone data >cable! What's the practical difference between a Merlin G100 and the one TMobile has on their site now, Sierra Wireless AirCard 750? They both claim GPRS, both claim about 56K speed. Is there a reason I should pay extra for the current Sierra Wireless AirCard 750? Or is Merlin the same? Does the G100 have a headset jack for voice calls? Is this supported in a PDA with a PCMCIA slot? Some had those a year ago. A trip to Best Buy recently had no PDS units with anything except compact flash slots. But I remember some. There might be a power problem with the PDA slot. Not enough juice. > What's the practical difference between a Merlin G100 and the one > TMobile has on their site now, Sierra Wireless AirCard 750? The AirCard 750 is a tri-band device, working on GSM 900, 1800 and 1900. if you'd like to go for GPRS+PC+PDA get bt phone instead I recommend nokia n-gage (I have problem with 3650 and HP 1945) top-notch reception, never locked, and configured with T-Mobile NEVER get any SE phone if your area don't have good reception > What's the practical difference between a Merlin G100 and the one > TMobile has on their site now, Sierra Wireless AirCard 750? The Sierra is tri-band, so it will work overseas- the Merlin is 1900MHz only. Also, the Sierra can handle voicecalls with a headset. The Merlin has no voice capability at all. > Is this supported in a PDA with a PCMCIA slot? Some had those a year > ago. A trip to Best Buy recently had no PDS units with anything except > compact flash slots. But I remember some. Some iPaqs can take a "sleeve" that adds PCMCIA capability. > There might be a power problem with the PDA slot. Not enough juice. Not with the sleeve- it has it's own rechargable battery. If you want PDA functionality as well, there is a CF-based GPRS card that will fit in a laptop when stuck in an adapter. These cards are available via some gray-market importers (IIRC, they haven't been FCC-approved for US use yet.) They run about $200. I almost bought one for my PDA, but eventually decided a bluetooth phone ($99 Nokia 3650) and $30 Bluetooth CF card were more versatile. |
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