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Ski - 06 Dec 2003 23:59 GMT

I am in Los Angeles and have to switch to T mobil as Sprints extra charges
are out of sight and they have few non vision phones.
Has anyone made the switch. Any thoughts
TIA

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dirty rat 753 - 07 Dec 2003 02:04 GMT

What charges are out of sight? Vision is what, $15/month?. And vision
phones do not have to have active vision service. I'm in SoCal.

I am shopping for Treo 600 service between Sprint and T-Mobile. ATTWS is a
third, and I'm happy with TDMA ATTWS. Yet ATTWS data is a notch higher in
cost for light use, and way higher cost for heavy use.

> I am in Los Angeles and have to switch to T mobil as Sprints extra charges
> are out of sight and they have few non vision phones.
> Has anyone made the switch. Any thoughts
> TIA

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Ski - 07 Dec 2003 13:55 GMT

> What charges are out of sight? Vision is what, $15/month?. And
> vision phones do not have to have active vision service. I'm in
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>> Has anyone made the switch. Any thoughts
>> TIA

I love Sprint don't get me wrong. I hate Vision and just want to have a
plain Jane phone.I wont pay the 15 dollars a month but the prices on the
phones are getting up there. I would be paying a lot for a Sprint phone to
have Vision on it and I would not be using the phone. I have thought of att
but I understand the clarity is not good. I was paying 84 dollars a month
now I am pying 89 dollars a month and have not changed a thing.

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mjohns2 - 11 Dec 2003 01:41 GMT

FYI:
You can get a vision enabled phone and not get the vision service.

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> > What charges are out of sight? Vision is what, $15/month?. And
> > vision phones do not have to have active vision service. I'm in
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> but I understand the clarity is not good. I was paying 84 dollars a month
> now I am pying 89 dollars a month and have not changed a thing.

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SA - 31 Dec 2003 12:52 GMT

> FYI:
> You can get a vision enabled phone and not get the vision service.

Yeah I think you missed his point. The point is that Sprint is charging
way too much for the phones themselves (never mind the plans are
pricey). For e.g., consider Tmobile family plan:

1) Buy two T610's from Amazon, after activation a net profit of $130
-> $69.99 for 800 minutes, unlimited PCS-toPCS
amortize the rebate over a year, and you are paying about $60 per month

2) Buy two T608's from Sprint, for $400 plus activation of $70
->$69.99 for 700 minutes plus $5 extra if you want PCS-to-PCS, so lets
say you want it, pay $75. Amortize the cost of the phones and you are
paying $110+ per month and getting 100 fewer minutes. And this is
without vision, tmobile's data plans work out cheaper too.

> http://www.youmatch.net/
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> > but I understand the clarity is not good. I was paying 84 dollars a month
> > now I am pying 89 dollars a month and have not changed a thing.

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gopi - 07 Dec 2003 17:46 GMT

> third, and I'm happy with TDMA ATTWS. Yet ATTWS data is a notch higher in
> cost for light use, and way higher cost for heavy use.

It's worth noting that ATTWS now has EDGE (Enhanced Data rates for GSM
Evolution) across their entire GSM network. If you're lucky enough to
own one of the very few EDGE phones out there, you'll get around a 4x
performance improvement, leaving ATTWS in the same league for data
speeds as Sprint and Verizon - but also, sadly, the same price league,
at $80/month for unlimited, or $20/month for 8MB on their "MAXI" plan.

I was somewhat disappointed to learn of their EDGE deployment - I
think it means that they're very unlikely to drop their data rates any
time soon. I was hoping that T-Mobile's cheap data might encourage
them to drop the prices, but it looks like T-Mobile has a monopoly on
cheap unlimited laptop data. While I am happy with them now, I like
choice.

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Mike Schumann - 11 Dec 2003 03:37 GMT

You have choice. Slower, cheap unlimited data vs Fast expensive data.

I like those types of options, rather than two vendors both pushing fast
data, and having to charge big bucks to recoupe all of the investment $s.

Mike Schumann

> > third, and I'm happy with TDMA ATTWS. Yet ATTWS data is a notch higher in
> > cost for light use, and way higher cost for heavy use.
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> cheap unlimited laptop data. While I am happy with them now, I like
> choice.

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