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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / T-Mobile / December 2003What is the difference between sending/receiving emails and text msgs?
I understand that t-mo charges 5cents for each txt msgs I send or receive. Yesterday when I called the CS rep, he told me that I incur 35cents for sending txt msgs to intl numbers (is this true?). If I sign-up for $2.99/300msgs, would they charge same for both domestic and intl txt msgs (i.e., would I be able to send/receive 300 intl or domestic txt msgs in that price)? BTW, what is the difference between sending/receiving txt msgs and emails? If someone sends an email (say thru their hotmial) to my cellnumber@tmomail.net, is it considered a txt msg for me and charged at 5cents (whether the msg comes from US or international) or will I be charged at a different rate? Similarly, if I want to send email thru my phone to someone's hotmail id, do I need additional internet service from t-mo (like t-zones) or can I send it as a txt msg (for 5cents)? I am confused....please elaborate... thanks Jan >I understand that t-mo charges 5cents for each txt msgs I send or >receive. Yesterday when I called the CS rep, he told me that I incur >35cents for sending txt msgs to intl numbers (is this true?). If I >sign-up for $2.99/300msgs, would they charge same for both domestic >and intl txt msgs (i.e., would I be able to send/receive 300 intl or >domestic txt msgs in that price)? Well, the CS rep didn't have it quite right. If you are in the US any text message you send costs 5 cents/message if you don't have some sort of message bundle. It costs 35 cents/message to send a message from overseas i.e. from an international location. >BTW, what is the difference between sending/receiving txt msgs and >emails? If someone sends an email (say thru their hotmial) to my >cellnumber@tmomail.net, is it considered a txt msg for me and charged >at 5cents (whether the msg comes from US or international) or will I >be charged at a different rate? Any kind of text message is counted whether it's in the form of sending a message to an email address such as person@example.com is charged the same as if you sent a text message to +12063549999. You are charged 5 cents/message unless you have a text message allowance. >Similarly, if I want to send email thru my phone to someone's hotmail >id, do I need additional internet service from t-mo (like t-zones) or >can I send it as a txt msg (for 5cents)? Yes. A text message is a text message whether it's phone-to-phone or phone to email address. The cost is the same. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - add .com to reply >> Similarly, if I want to send email thru my phone to someone's hotmail >> id, do I need additional internet service from t-mo (like t-zones) or >> can I send it as a txt msg (for 5cents)? > > Yes. A text message is a text message whether it's phone-to-phone or > phone to email address. The cost is the same. If you compose the message using webmail (say at mail.yahoo.com), how would T-Mobile know that you're not just surfing the web?  SignatureJohn Richards >>> Similarly, if I want to send email thru my phone to someone's hotmail >>> id, do I need additional internet service from t-mo (like t-zones) or [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >If you compose the message using webmail (say at mail.yahoo.com), >how would T-Mobile know that you're not just surfing the web? They wouldn't. If you send to a T-Mobile email address the receiver will have it counted against their text message useage. I'm talking about sending and receiving text messages. I'm not sure what you're talking about. The original poster inquired about text messages and didn't ask about "surfing the web." - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - add .com to reply >> If you compose the message using webmail (say at mail.yahoo.com), >> how would T-Mobile know that you're not just surfing the web? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > talking about. The original poster inquired about text messages and > didn't ask about "surfing the web." Surely webmail is a valid alternative for someone who's worried about racking up too many 5-cent charges for text messages. SignatureJohn Richards >>> If you compose the message using webmail (say at mail.yahoo.com), >>> how would T-Mobile know that you're not just surfing the web? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Surely webmail is a valid alternative for someone who's worried >about racking up too many 5-cent charges for text messages. Webmail is only an alternative if you use it through your phone to access web mail. You'll use data instead. If you receive a message that someone has sent through web mail to your tmomail.net address it will be counted as a text message just like any other received text message. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - add .com to reply >If you compose the message using webmail (say at mail.yahoo.com), >how would T-Mobile know that you're not just surfing the web? They don't (and it's not a text message, in any case), and there is no charge for web based mail. Ron Ron > >> Similarly, if I want to send email thru my phone to someone's hotmail > >> id, do I need additional internet service from t-mo (like t-zones) or [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > If you compose the message using webmail (say at mail.yahoo.com), > how would T-Mobile know that you're not just surfing the web? Webmail is not email, it's web browsing. You're just using a random web site, nothing more and nothing less. T-Mobile charges every time your phone sends or receives an SMS. It doesn't matter what the other end is. Note that incoming email can be either MMS or SMS. If you get a long message or one with an enclosure, it's going to come through as MMS, at $0.25 each. If you use your phone's POP/IMAP/SMTP system - some phones have that, some do not - then you are not using SMS or MMS. Your phone is just establishing an outgoing TCP connection to some random remote system on the Internet. T-Mobile does not know or care how many messages you send and receive that way. janjas01@sbcglobal.net (Jan) pondered the futility of human existence in an uncaring universe and yet found the courage to write: >I understand that t-mo charges 5cents for each txt msgs I send or >receive. Yesterday when I called the CS rep, he told me that I incur >35cents for sending txt msgs to intl numbers (is this true?). If I >sign-up for $2.99/300msgs, would they charge same for both domestic >and intl txt msgs (i.e., would I be able to send/receive 300 intl or >domestic txt msgs in that price)? You are charged $0.35 when sending a text message FROM an international (non-US) location, but I don't think this applies when sending a text message TO an international location from the US. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong. >BTW, what is the difference between sending/receiving txt msgs and >emails? A text message is also called SMS, meaning "short message service." It's "short" for a reason: each message is limited to 160 characters (whether incoming or outgoing). If the email is longer than 160 characters the rest is chopped off. Depending on your phone you may also be able to send and receive longer "real" email but that's a separate procedure and separate technology from SMS. Let's keep things simple and limit ourselves to SMS for now. >If someone sends an email (say thru their hotmial) to my >cellnumber@tmomail.net, is it considered a txt msg for me and charged >at 5cents (whether the msg comes from US or international) or will I >be charged at a different rate? From your end it doesn't matter how the SMS originates. There are various interfaces for sending SMS: for example, T-Mo's web page; the email gateway (your friend with Hotmail sending to cellnumber@tmomail.net); or direct to your phone number from another phone. They're all SMS when they reach your phone and are charged accordingly. >Similarly, if I want to send email thru my phone to someone's hotmail >id, do I need additional internet service from t-mo (like t-zones) or >can I send it as a txt msg (for 5cents)? You don't need a special service. Put the email address as the very first string of characters in the message, then put one blank space, then your message. Remember the character limit. T-Mo allows you to make aliases for commonly used addresses so that e.g., you can send to TJ rather than having to key in a long address like ThomasJefferson@monticello.state.va.us. Log on to your account at T-Mo's web site if you want to set up aliases. -- hambu n hambu hodo >A text message is also called SMS, meaning "short message service." >It's "short" for a reason: each message is limited to 160 characters >(whether incoming or outgoing). If the email is longer than 160 >characters the rest is chopped off. This is not absolutely true. If you have a handset that can do "concatenated" messages you can send a message up to 459 characters. It basically combines the messages. If you are sending to another phone that understands concatenated messages the messages will be automatically joined. On other phones you may receive multiple messages or the longer part of the message will not be received depending on the receiving handset. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - add .com to reply |
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