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evadnikufesin - 14 Mar 2007 06:01 GMT

I'm torn between the above 3. I need PDA-type functions in my phone
because I don't want to buy a new PalmOS device. I thought the 8700
might work for me, but I've heard that there is no Java VM for it (tho
the websites I've read say different) and T-Mobile is blocking apps
that aren't signed by RIM or T-Mobile now. Anyone know if that's true?

Anyway.. between the 3 of these which would people in this group go
with? I know they have quite a bit of variation between them but I'm
still curious to hear other points of view. Thanks.

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Todd Allcock - 14 Mar 2007 06:53 GMT

> I'm torn between the above 3. I need PDA-type functions in my phone
> because I don't want to buy a new PalmOS device. I thought the 8700
> might work for me, but I've heard that there is no Java VM for it (tho
> the websites I've read say different) and T-Mobile is blocking apps
> that aren't signed by RIM or T-Mobile now. Anyone know if that's true?

From what I understand, T-Mo is now blocking "unsigned" Java apps from
installing or connecting to the web in T-Mobile-branded "dumbphones,"
like the Nokia 6133 or 5300- not PDA phones.

> Anyway.. between the 3 of these which would people in this group go
> with? I know they have quite a bit of variation between them but I'm
> still curious to hear other points of view. Thanks.

I use an MDA, my wife uses a Dash. The difference, essentially, is that
the MDA is a good PDA with an akward-to-use phone built-in. The Dash is
a good phone with an awkward-to-use PDA built-in.

Neither includes Java support built-in, but it can be added (at least on
the MDA- I've never looked for a Java-runtime for the Dash.) Frankly
there's too much good Windows Mobile software around for me to use Java
apps for anything. It's like asking if a new Vista PC still comes with
GW-Basic!

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John Richards - 14 Mar 2007 20:54 GMT

> From what I understand, T-Mo is now blocking "unsigned" Java apps from
> installing or connecting to the web in T-Mobile-branded "dumbphones,"
> like the Nokia 6133 or 5300- not PDA phones.

Opera Mini and Google Maps still work fine on my T-Mobile RAZR V3.
I have the $5.99 web access option.

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Todd Allcock - 14 Mar 2007 23:21 GMT

> > From what I understand, T-Mo is now blocking "unsigned" Java apps from
> > installing or connecting to the web in T-Mobile-branded "dumbphones,"
> > like the Nokia 6133 or 5300- not PDA phones.
>
> Opera Mini and Google Maps still work fine on my T-Mobile RAZR V3.
> I have the $5.99 web access option.

AFAIK, the "blocking" is model dependant. T-Mo has done it to the two
newest Nokias, I don't know if the newer Motos will get the same treatment.

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