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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / T-Mobile / April 2007Why was MDA discontinued?
Does anyone know exactly why the MDA was discontinued in the US? I have been having problems with mine for a LONG time. Ever two months or so I had to have it exchanged for one reason or another. I suspect they just got tired of all the returns. I'm mad b/c now I have a scratch on the screen and they won't exchange it w/o the $110 fee. It isn't messing up b/c of the scratch. It was messing up before then. I'm just curious as to what actually made them discontinue selling them. > Does anyone know exactly why the MDA was discontinued in the US? I have > been having problems with mine for a LONG time. Ever two months or so I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > b/c of the scratch. It was messing up before then. I'm just curious as > to what actually made them discontinue selling them. A couple of reasons.. - The Dash has far outsold the MDA in it's brief time. - The Blackberry 8800 is on it's way - The MDA 2 is on it's way.  Signature"We are living in a gelded age..." -Savage Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html > A couple of reasons.. > > - The Dash has far outsold the MDA in it's brief time. The Nokia 6030 has far outsold all smartphones, PDAs and Blackberries. Why not discontinue them all using that logic! ;-) And while the Dash is a cute little phone, to paraphase Lloyd Bentson- I knew the MDA, the MDA is a friend of mine, and the Dash, sir, is no MDA! > - The Blackberry 8800 is on it's way Different feature set- the MDA (or Dash) are preferable for syncing with an Exchange server, while the BB is for those using BIS or BES. > - The MDA 2 is on it's way. Of your above reasons, only this one makes sense. While the MDA certainly has a smallerintended market than either the Dash or BB, it's an important one, and every other carrier has a touchscreen PPC Phone (Cingular's 8525, Verizon and Sprint's 6700, etc.) >> A couple of reasons.. >> >> - The Dash has far outsold the MDA in it's brief time. > > The Nokia 6030 has far outsold all smartphones, PDAs and Blackberries. > Why not discontinue them all using that logic! ;-) Flawed logic.. T-Mo considers the Smartphone business and the Phone business as separate silos. > And while the Dash is a cute little phone, to paraphase Lloyd Bentson- I > knew the MDA, the MDA is a friend of mine, and the Dash, sir, is no MDA! Meh.. whatever... >> - The Blackberry 8800 is on it's way > > Different feature set- the MDA (or Dash) are preferable for syncing with > an Exchange server, while the BB is for those using BIS or BES. Your opinion. I blackberry users who use the push system who look at me with the Dash as if I have 3 heads and wonder why I didn't get a Blackberry. >> - The MDA 2 is on it's way. > Of your above reasons, only this one makes sense. The others made sense.. you just don't *agree* with them. > While the MDA certainly > has a smallerintended market than either the Dash or BB, it's an > important one, and every other carrier has a touchscreen PPC Phone > (Cingular's 8525, Verizon and Sprint's 6700, etc.) The touchscreen phones are problematic under heavy use. If you don't use screen protectors religiously you end up having a nonworking screen.. Personally I can't stand them. I used Palm devices for years and just finally got fed up with using touch screens after I got a Tungsten C. As a side note - unfortunately the MDA 2 is using the same processor as the MDA so it'll still be slower than the Dash... Signature"We are living in a gelded age..." -Savage Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html > Flawed logic.. T-Mo considers the Smartphone business and the Phone > business as separate silos. I know- hence the ";-)" at the end of the comment. > > the Dash, sir, is no MDA! > > Meh.. whatever... Seriously, the Dash (and MS Smartphones in general) have no on-board Office Document editing facilities, (at least until the WM6 update next month,) no remote VPN client, no syncing with Outlook Notes and a smaller selection of 3rd party software available than PPC phones. Don't get me wrong- the Dash is a great little phone, but it's really in a different market than the MDA. > I blackberry users who use the push system who look at > me with the Dash as if I have 3 heads and wonder why I didn't get a > Blackberry. Are you using BES on the Dash? Or Exchange Push- again, different devices for different uses. > >> - The MDA 2 is on it's way. > > Of your above reasons, only this one makes sense. > > The others made sense.. you just don't *agree* with them. No, I'll stick with "they don't make sense" because if they did, there'd be no MDA 2 coming out next month, since your explanations presuppose the MDA is redundant either by the Dash or the BB. It's not like T-Mo discontinued the MDA then changed their minds and drug out a newer version- HTC discontinued the Wizard, and T-Mo ran out before it's replacement was available. Period, end of story. > The touchscreen phones are problematic under heavy use. If you don't > use screen protectors religiously you end up having a nonworking screen.. I've used PPCs "heavily" ever since there was such a thing, and while I had my MDA replaced for a bad touchscreen, it's not because "touchscreens are problematic," it's because the MDA model is/was problematic! > Personally I can't stand them. I used Palm devices for years and just > finally got fed up with using touch screens after I got a Tungsten C. > As a side note - unfortunately the MDA 2 is using the same processor > as the MDA so it'll still be > slower than the Dash... The Dash uses the same TI-OMAP processor running at 200MHz as the MDA and, apparently, it's replacement. Again, I like the Dash- my wife has one, but I wouldn't trade my MDA for it. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com I was offered to trade my MDA in for the Dash and I thought the sales person was smoking crack when they asked me to do that. I have only used the Dash in the store but from what I see, it cannot compare to the MDA in the least. If it wasn't for the fact that I poked a hole in my MDA when it dropped on the floor I would have a new one and probably not complaining as much. I took their jump to offer me the Dash as a replacement as an admittance to hw/sw flaws with the MDA. My touch screen still works fine except for where it is cracked and everything else works too most of the time. It hangs and drops calls more and more often but I had that same problem with a phone that wasn't cracked so I know the crack has nothing to do with it. I just think they should replace the phone w/o a fee b/c the problems with the phone is not because of the crack. If other phones are having the same problem and they don't have a crack then the problem can't be the crack. This policy leaves a bad taste in my mouth with T-Mobile. Lucky for them their plans are lower than the others or I would be switching. The other thing I don't like about T-Mobile is that they are slow on releasing new products. Similar windows mobile devices come out with other carriers before them almost all the time. Cingular has had the 8225 which has a better processor and more memory and from what I have heard is upgradable if not already installed WM6. It is the same phone that T-Mobile would use so why does it take T-Mobile so long to put it out? If the product was more stable than the others then I would say it takes longer b/c they did more intense testing to release a better product but that isn't the case. My co-worker (not IT as I am) has the 8125 and has had no problems. He may not use his as much as mine but I am on my 4th and he is on his second and thats only b/c he dropped the first in the bathtub while bathing his child. That seems to be a more stable device which leads me to believe its software so it would be the image T-Mobile uses. >> Flawed logic.. T-Mo considers the Smartphone business and the Phone >> business as separate silos. [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > Again, I like the Dash- my wife has one, but I wouldn't trade my MDA for > it. > The Dash uses the same TI-OMAP processor running at 200MHz as the MDA > and, apparently, it's replacement. Good point.... Interesting that the Dash seems faster tho... > Again, I like the Dash- my wife has one, but I wouldn't trade my MDA for > it. I think this is like the Mac vs. PC thing... You like one *or* you like the other.. ;) Signature"We are living in a gelded age..." -Savage Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html > Does anyone know exactly why the MDA was discontinued in the US? The MDA (like the Cingular 8125, a rebranded HTC Wizard) has been discontinued by it's manufacturer, HTC, and superseded by two newer models- the 3G-equipped Tytn (which Cingular sells as the 8525) and a non- 3G unit T-Mobile will be selling this summer that they may call the "Wing." > I have been having problems with mine for a LONG time. Ever two > months or so I had to have it exchanged for one reason or another. I > suspect they just got tired of all the returns. I'm on my third since buying it last April- the first had a bad touchscreen (a common Wizard problem) and the second's stylus slot stopped gripping the stylus, so I lost three styli in a week before getting it replaced. (Apparently also common!) > I'm mad b/c now I have a scratch on the screen and they won't exchange > it w/o the $110 fee. It isn't messing up b/c of the scratch. A strategy you might consider is waiting until your warranty is just about up then have it exchanged- hopefully they'll be out of replacement MDAs by then and give you the new model. > It was messing up before then. I'm just curious as to what actually > made them discontinue selling them. They ran out? Seriously, the Wizard was discontinued by HTC awhile ago, Windows Mobile 6 models will be released shortly (perhaps next month) and HTC has already decided not to release a WM6 upgrade for the Wizard, so continuing to sell the WM5-based MDA when the competition is selling WM6 devices doesn't make sense. I assume T-Mo expected their supply of MDAs to last until it's replacement shows up, but in the grand scheme I suspect they'd rather run out early than be stuck with a ton of them to unload at a discount after the WM6 units arrive! SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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