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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / T-Mobile / September 2007problem with replacement sim, old nokia 3595
I'm an ancient subscriber from the old Omnipoint days, and until yesterday, was using my original Omnipoint SIM. However, it's limited to 100 names, meaning the others were stored in the phone's memory. Since I'm going to be switching phone instruments, I need all the entries on the card. So... yesterday I swung by a t-mobile store and they were kind enough to copy all the phone numbers from the old card to the new one, and switch the account over. All well and good. THe new card worked for incoming and outgoing, and I began to move the numbers from the phone into the new card. I then discovered 2.5 (that's two and a half) problems. I've spent a hefty amount of time on the phone with t-mobile, and just played around in a store, but we haven't come to a satisfactory conclusion. Problem one: With the new SIM in my Nokia 3595, the special "numbers" such as #min# to get the number of minutes... _immediately_, on my hitting the "send" button, come back with a "STOP, Request Not Completed". (If I put the new SIM into another phone in the store it does work.). Problem two: I've got a bunch of phone entries with a "w", as in "wait" in them. Typically this is for a bank account entry in the form: 1-800-555-1212-W-12345 The "w" tells the phone to send out the first ten digits, and then _wait_ until I hit the key a second time, at which point it'll send out the next string. (in other words: a: hit send b: phone connects to the number and wiats c: bank answers, says to enter the account number d: I hit the send again, and the phone spits over the next set of digits. ) When I try doing this now I get a: " STOP, Call Not Allowed". Note that these numbers also would _NOT_ copy from the phone to the new SIM, but would give me the message: "STOP 1 Contact not copied". Proble 2.5: If I had a phone entry with just a name and number, it copied over ok to the new SIM. However, if it also had an address with it, only the name and number made it across; thus I'd have two entries now - one in the phone with name, number, and address; one in the SIM with just name and number. Any suggestions? I really, really, _need_ that "wait" option. Thanks _____________________________________________________ Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key dannyb@panix.com [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded] > I then discovered 2.5 (that's two and a half) problems. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > of minutes... _immediately_, on my hitting the "send" > button, come back with a "STOP, Request Not Completed". Are you dialing them on the keypad, or from phone or SIM memory? My phone won't let me store those requst sequences. > (If I put the new SIM into another phone in the store > it does work.). That pretty much rules out the SIM itself. I assume you're switching to a newer phone than the 3595, right? Why not just "wait it out" until you get the new handset? > Problem two: I've got a bunch of phone entries > with a "w", as in "wait" in them. Typically [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Note that these numbers also would _NOT_ copy from the phone to the > new SIM, but would give me the message: "STOP 1 Contact not copied". How many numbers with pauses/waits do you have? I'd try editing/re- entering those and see if they'll store. Perhaps SIMs can't store a pause/wait sequence? (It's been soooo long since I stored numbers on a SIM- I've used Smartphones that sync contacts to PCs and avoid the size/format limitations of SIMs.) > Proble 2.5: If I had a phone entry with just a name and number, > it copied over ok to the new SIM. However, if it also had > an address with it, only the name and number made it > across; thus I'd have two entries now - one in the > phone with name, number, and address; one in the SIM > with just name and number. Of course- SIMs do not store addresses, or multiple numbers per name ("home," "work," "mobile," etc.) SIMs only hold a name and a number. Square Peg, meet Round Hole... Some phones are "smart enough" to breakup multi-number on-phone contacts automatically (i.e "John" with home and work numbers will copy over to the SIM as "John Home" and "John Work," for example.) There's nothing you can do about addresses, however, except find another way to move them (IR/BT, SMS/MMS, data cable, etc. > Any suggestions? I really, really, _need_ that "wait" option. You might have to rekey them into the new phone.>  Signature"I don't need my cell phone to play video games or take pictures or double as a Walkie-Talkie; I just need it to work. Thanks for all the bells and whistles, but I could communicate better with ACTUAL bells and whistles." -Bill Maher 9/25/2003 >> I then discovered 2.5 (that's two and a half) problems. >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> of minutes... _immediately_, on my hitting the "send" >> button, come back with a "STOP, Request Not Completed". >Are you dialing them on the keypad, or from phone or SIM memory? My >phone won't let me store those requst sequences. Punching them in on the keypad. >I assume you're switching to a newer phone than the 3595, right? Why >not just "wait it out" until you get the new handset? I don't want a newer and better and gadgety phone. The specific one I'll _sometimes_ swap into would be one of the dual 802.11/t-mobile units, but then I'd be right back... >> Problem two: I've got a bunch of phone entries >> with a "w", as in "wait" in them. Typically [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> key a second time, at which point it'll send >> out the next string. >> When I try doing this now I get a: >> " STOP, Call Not Allowed". >How many numbers with pauses/waits do you have? I'd try editing/re- >entering those and see if they'll store. Perhaps SIMs can't store a >pause/wait sequence? (It's been soooo long since I stored numbers on >a SIM- I've used Smartphones that sync contacts to PCs and avoid the >size/format limitations of SIMs.) I tested just a five digit, w, 2 digit sequence. No gudsky,.... >> Proble 2.5: If I had a phone entry with just a name and number, >> it copied over ok to the new SIM. However, if it also had >> an address with it, only the name and number made it >> across; thus I'd have two entries now - one in the >> phone with name, number, and address; one in the SIM >> with just name and number. >Of course- SIMs do not store addresses, or multiple numbers per name >("home," "work," "mobile," etc.) SIMs only hold a name and a number. > Square Peg, meet Round Hole... You'd have thought they'd have added that in by now. Oh well... >> Any suggestions? I really, really, _need_ that "wait" option. >You might have to rekey them into the new phone.> I tried... Thanks Signature_____________________________________________________ Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key dannyb@panix.com [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded] > Punching them in on the keypad. Damn- I'm stumped. I suspect there has to be some compatibility problem between the older phones and newer SIMs. This probably won't help, but maybe you culd ask T-Mo for the unlock code for your 3595? Or, if you're willing to invest $30-40, buy a 6030 prepaid kit at WallyWorld or Target- is essentially the newer slimmer decendant of the 3595/6010 and shouldn't have any problems with the later SIMs. It uses the same home/car chargers as the 3595 as well. > >I assume you're switching to a newer phone than the 3595, right? Why > >not just "wait it out" until you get the new handset? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > one of the dual 802.11/t-mobile units, but then I'd > be right back... Ahhh... then I'll stick with the 6030 suggestion. I bought two from T-Mo's website to use as my "war zone" phones (phones I use instead of my PDA phones in" hostile" conditions like at the beach...) > I tested just a five digit, w, 2 digit sequence. No gudsky,.... Jeez. This one is a toughie, and I've got nothing I'm afraid- sorry! > You'd have thought they'd have added that in by now. Oh well... I suspect that since most phones can sync with a PC or even the cell carrier (some of the new T-Mo phones use "T-Mo Address Book"- T-Mo's name for their SyncML server- the phone contacts sync to a T-Mo database so when you switch phones in the future, you can download your phonebook into the new phone.) Good luck! Signature"I don't need my cell phone to play video games or take pictures or double as a Walkie-Talkie; I just need it to work. Thanks for all the bells and whistles, but I could communicate better with ACTUAL bells and whistles." -Bill Maher 9/25/2003 >> Punching them in on the keypad. >Damn- I'm stumped. I suspect there has to be some compatibility >problem between the older phones and newer SIMs. This probably won't >help, but maybe you culd ask T-Mo for the unlock code for your 3595? I unlocked it a year or so ago (which probably means two or three by now). Hmm, one of the test they had me do was to reset the phone to factory values (which mangled some fo my specialized settings, like call froward/no answer). I hope it didn't re-lock it... >Or, if you're willing to invest $30-40, buy a 6030 prepaid kit at >WallyWorld or Target- is essentially the newer slimmer decendant of >the 3595/6010 and shouldn't have any problems with the later SIMs. >It uses the same home/car chargers as the 3595 as well. Sounds tempting. I'll take a look for one. Those would have the better location tracking, right? >Good luck! Thanks Signature_____________________________________________________ Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key dannyb@panix.com [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded] > Hmm, one of the test they had me do was to reset > the phone to factory values (which mangled some > fo my specialized settings, like call froward/no answer). > I hope it didn't re-lock it... Nope, it's still unlocked. > >Or, if you're willing to invest $30-40, buy a 6030 prepaid kit at > >WallyWorld or Target- is essentially the newer slimmer decendant of [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Those would have the better location tracking, right? I doubt it. T-Mo and Cingular use a completely tower-based location system that works equally poorly with any GSM phone. Signature"I don't need my cell phone to play video games or take pictures or double as a Walkie-Talkie; I just need it to work. Thanks for all the bells and whistles, but I could communicate better with ACTUAL bells and whistles." -Bill Maher 9/25/2003 |
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