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jas0n - 26 Nov 2004 18:40 GMT
i tested a vodafone 3g datacard last week, a breeze to setup, worked
quickly at expected speeds, no trouble.

today, however i tested an orange 3g datacard ... same breeze to setup
but speed wise was a dog from same location as vodafone one. (may be
better from different location, going to try a few)

the orange one connects at 115k compared to 384k of the vodafone. but
even then it didnt even give me ordinary modem speeds - signal said was
strong and good but internet connection speed was terrible - took ages
to load up just text pages. didnt manage to logon to my work vpn
connection with it once - it did get to authenticating stage but never
got past it ... not so sure if speed or congestion on that score at the
moment but the vodafone one just went straight in.

that was in centre of birmingham ... ill test it in cannock monday and
giving it out to a user who'll be trialling it in oxfordshire over the
next month.

anyway ... initial thoughts was .... vodafone far better (although thats
purely based on initial impression and 1 location) ... ill re-assess
once tried a few locations out.
hairydog@despammed.com - 26 Nov 2004 20:02 GMT
>the orange one connects at 115k compared to 384k of the vodafone. but
>even then it didnt even give me ordinary modem speeds

No, it reports 115k, but I can assure you that it can download at 384k
over that 115k connection.

I think the Orange software is horrible, and the card doesn't have
specially good rf performance but when you are in decent coverage, it
is really good and fast: significantly better than Vodafone's.

The internet APN uses a downsampling cache for images, but the Office
(VPN) one doesn't.

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Jon - 28 Nov 2004 19:27 GMT
jas0n reckoned that...
> the orange one connects at 115k compared to 384k of the vodafone.

That is the speed at which the device is talking to your computer - it
is not the actual data speed.

> but
> even then it didnt even give me ordinary modem speeds - signal said was
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> got past it ... not so sure if speed or congestion on that score at the
> moment but the vodafone one just went straight in.

Orange have to enable VPN for you, unfortunately it's not done by
default. You then click on "office" instead of "internet"
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Mike Zanker - 28 Nov 2004 19:38 GMT
> That is the speed at which the device is talking to your computer - it
> is not the actual data speed.

If the card really is talking at 115Kb/s then it's going to be a
bottleneck with a typical 3G connection.

Mike.
hairydog@despammed.com - 28 Nov 2004 22:49 GMT
>If the card really is talking at 115Kb/s then it's going to be a
>bottleneck with a typical 3G connection.

Didn't you read my comment? The card works at 384k - the 115k is a
false figure.

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Hiram Hackenbacker - 28 Nov 2004 20:05 GMT
> Orange have to enable VPN for you, unfortunately it's not done by
> default. You then click on "office" instead of "internet"

They  do - and after 7 separate attempts to get it done over a 10 day
period I sent the card back - got the Vodafone card the next day and
haven't looked back. - at least they enable the VPN facility by default.
hairydog@despammed.com - 28 Nov 2004 22:49 GMT
>> Orange have to enable VPN for you, unfortunately it's not done by
>> default. You then click on "office" instead of "internet"
>
>They  do - and after 7 separate attempts to get it done over a 10 day
>period I sent the card back - got the Vodafone card the next day and
>haven't looked back. - at least they enable the VPN facility by default.

They enabled it for me in seconds.

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jas0n - 30 Nov 2004 00:26 GMT
> >> Orange have to enable VPN for you, unfortunately it's not done by
> >> default. You then click on "office" instead of "internet"
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> They enabled it for me in seconds.

whoaaaa .... whats all this enable vpn talk?

I managed to test the Orange card in Cannock, Staffs today and it had
good 3g signal and this time it actually gave a bit more than modem
speed

Also, my cisco software vpn was able to connect to office vpn too, I
have not had to contact orange about this and I am still using just the
Internet button.

Im installing it for real test user in the morning, who'll take it to
oxford and give it a good test for a few weeks.

Im currently still favouring the vodafone card.
hairydog@despammed.com - 30 Nov 2004 22:54 GMT
>> They enabled it for me in seconds.
>
>whoaaaa .... whats all this enable vpn talk?

I'm not convinced it wasn't enabled already, now you come to mention
it. It was early in the trial period, so the people at OCS were new to
it too.

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