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Cellular Phone Forum / Country Specific / UK Group / November 20047600 unlocking/resetting with Fbus by Maestro.......other experiences?
I've just spent the entire afternoon pulling my hair out trying to factory reset a couple of 7600's using a cable I got from Phantom GSM and the Fbus program by Maestro. (Btw one of the retractable pins on the cable was faulty so fixing that took another hour....thanks Phantom). I fired up the program in WinXP (after installing the Userport driver) expecting the whole thing to take 10 minutes but I found that pressing the Read button in Fbus didn't do anything.....no error, just hung. I assumed that meant that XP was the problem so I took another hour out to install Win98 on another partition. To make a long story short, it turned out that I had the same problem under Win98 and eventually found (through trial and error) that just hitting the 'Full factory reset' would work....erratically. If you make the mistake of clicking on the Read button before you click on 'Full Factory Reset' the thing doesn't work. There is therefore no need to find a Win98 machine......just use the Userport driver in XP. I'm now trying to enable 'Line 2' (ALS) using other programs with no success. Has ANYONE been able to do a 'Read' in the FBUS program using the Phantom cable and a Nokia 7600? Joe <snip> > I'm now trying to enable 'Line 2' (ALS) using other programs with no > success. No, I tried virtually every package on the market, and nearly every flasher available as well. In the end I gave up and read the PM off using Twister, modified it and wrote it back to the phone. >>> Unlock Your Phone's Potential <<< >>> www.uselessinfo.org.uk <<< >>> www.thephonelocker.co.uk <<< >>> www.gsm-solutions.co.uk <<< ><snip> >> I'm now trying to enable 'Line 2' (ALS) using other programs with no [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >available as well. In the end I gave up and read the PM off using Twister, >modified it and wrote it back to the phone. I'd never heard of Twister but a Google suggests that you're talking about a piece of hardware and not something you can leech off Emule or Usenet. So to hell with that; at least in my case.! <rant on> I just find it amazing that you can come on here, read a ton of threads on the subject of Nokia 7600's and Fbus by Maestro (but of course nobody mentions the fact that the bastarding thing just doesn't work properly/fully) and that you can download twenty thousand other bits of software on the net purporting to do the same job, try them all and yet not get one to work! There's no obvious problem with my serial port 'cause I did manage to get it to factory reset the phones and I also can get Logomanager and stuff of that ilk to work with my cable! What makes it ten times more frustrating is that ALL the software seems to be written by people who've never heard of error trapping. I'm no expert on the esoterics of the serial port on PC's but I suspect it's a pretty simple interface. What's the problem with providing a specific error message of the kind you used to get when I were a lad? I suppose these days the bastards expect you to pay for decent software or somethng! But even then there's no gurantee it'll work! <rant off> Joe > ><snip> > I just find it amazing that you can come on here, read a ton of > threads on the subject of Nokia 7600's and Fbus by Maestro (but of > course nobody mentions the fact that the bastarding thing just doesn't > work properly/fully) <snip> Fbus by maestro worked fine for me, as it has done before with a Dau9 data lead on 6310i. Only had to change to a 7600 dualbus lead. I wouldn't dream of trying to run any phone software on anything than Win98 Steve Terry >> ><snip> >> I just find it amazing that you can come on here, read a ton of [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Steve Terry What do you mean by 'worked'? I know it 'works' for factory resetting but did it work for you when pressing the 'Read' button for example? Joe >>> ><snip> >>> I just find it amazing that you can come on here, read a ton of [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >What do you mean by 'worked'? I know it 'works' for factory resetting >but did it work for you when pressing the 'Read' button for example? Exactly what I was on about................despite me starting this thread (and the rant), I guess we'll never know! Joe >>>>><snip> >>>> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Joe Hi, Worked as in it did a full factory reset, as far as i know using the read function won't work on any operating system with a 7600 as the software wasnt designed to work with that phone, its lucky it will even reset the phone (which wasnt known either till somebody forked out for a cable to test) It may well work on some pc's but on the couple or three ive done, read and test etc do not work. Lee  Signaturewww.leebales.co.uk - Under Construction > >> ><snip> > >> I just find it amazing that you can come on here, read a ton of [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > but did it work for you when pressing the 'Read' button for example? > Joe I only use Fbus by maestro to factory reset, for ALS and CSP switching I would used logomanager, there's not much else you can switch on a DCT4 Steve Terry >> >> ><snip> >> >> I just find it amazing that you can come on here, read a ton of [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > I only use Fbus by maestro to factory reset, for ALS and CSP switching > I would used logomanager, there's not much else you can switch on a DCT4 I think you'll find that LM won't enable ALS on a 7600 (and quite a few other newish handsets). Mike Bradley is aware of this, but at the moment the only way I know that works 100% of the time is to alter the correct part of the PM on the phone. >>> Unlock Your Phone's Potential <<< >>> www.uselessinfo.org.uk <<< >>> www.thephonelocker.co.uk <<< >>> www.gsm-solutions.co.uk <<< >>> What do you mean by 'worked'? I know it 'works' for factory resetting >>> but did it work for you when pressing the 'Read' button for example? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >I think you'll find that LM won't enable ALS on a 7600 (and quite a few >other newish handsets). Exactly..........I also found that out the hard way. > Mike Bradley is aware of this, but at the moment >the only way I know that works 100% of the time is to alter the correct part >of the PM on the phone. Now you've lost me.................how do I go about "altering the correct part of the PM on the phone" ??? Joe <snip> >> Mike Bradley is aware of this, but at the moment >>the only way I know that works 100% of the time is to alter the correct [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Now you've lost me.................how do I go about "altering the > correct part of the PM on the phone" ??? You don't unless you've got the right equipment (Twister or similar) and the knowledge to use it properly. Be aware that mucking around with the PM without knowing what you're changing can render the phone U/S. >>> Unlock Your Phone's Potential <<< >>> www.uselessinfo.org.uk <<< >>> www.thephonelocker.co.uk <<< >>> www.gsm-solutions.co.uk <<< On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 09:14:13 +0000, in article <FRWqd.26263$up1.11391@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk> "Richard Colton" <webmaster@NOSPAMuselessinfo.org.uk> wrote: >> I only use Fbus by maestro to factory reset, for ALS and CSP switching >> I would used logomanager, there's not much else you can switch on a DCT4 [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > the only way I know that works 100% of the time is to alter the correct part > of the PM on the phone. The last time I ask LM support about this problem they told me that they didn't have sufficient information from Nokia to implement ALS and CSP enabling on newer Nokias. This was just after the time that the 8310 or 6100 came out IIRC, so whether even later DCT4 phones are different in some way I don't know but I haven't tried LM for this purpose since using it on a 3310 and 3330. SignatureBrian Morrison please observe reply-to address > I've just spent the entire afternoon pulling my hair out trying to > factory reset a couple of 7600's using a cable I got from Phantom GSM [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Joe Thanx for that Joe. I am going to be attempting a Factory Reset on the Nokia 7600 today and its good that people have posted their experiences and conclusions with using FBus by Maestro. As far as I can determine, you need to do the following: - Install FBus. - Install UserPort driver (Is this required - it doesn't mention is on: http://www.unlockme.co.uk/security.html ?) - Copy MSComm32.OCX into your windows/system directory. - Plug in the Nokia 7600, preferably with the power connected so that it doesn't fail halfway through (do you need the SIM in?). - Run the software and just hit 'Factory Reset' (avoid the Vibra Controls at all costs). And the following conclusions currently can be determined: - It doesn't matter if you use Windows 98 or Windows XP Anyone wish to clarify/add to the above? AMO >>I've just spent the entire afternoon pulling my hair out trying to >>factory reset a couple of 7600's using a cable I got from Phantom GSM [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > AMO Worked fine on my Windows XP without userport. Just connected it to com port 1 selected it on fbus and hit reset. Left the sim card in, didnt matter. Lee Signaturewww.leebales.co.uk - Under Construction >Worked fine on my Windows XP without userport. Just connected it to com >port 1 selected it on fbus and hit reset. Left the sim card in, didnt >matter. That's consistent with my experience because I installed Userport before doing anything. Although I have read reports where people said Userport was required. >> Thanx for that Joe. I am going to be attempting a Factory Reset on the >> Nokia 7600 today and its good that people have posted their experiences [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Lee Thanx for the response Lee. Just got home today - will try the factory reset in a moment. AMO > >> Thanx for that Joe. I am going to be attempting a Factory Reset on the > >> Nokia 7600 today and its good that people have posted their experiences [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > AMO does this give you access to the hidden network menu on the phone ?? so you can make it stay on 2g ?? > does this give you access to the hidden network menu on the phone ?? so you > can make it stay on 2g ?? Yes, I rather think that's the point! SignatureGermany's beloved sausages take a turn for the wurst http://sausagefans.com/newsarticle.php?id=68 > > does this give you access to the hidden network menu on the phone ?? so you > > can make it stay on 2g ?? > > Yes, I rather think that's the point! weren't clear as he said Unlocking...... glad you are so polite and helpful...an asset to the newsgroup !! > weren't clear as he said Unlocking...... > > glad you are so polite and helpful...an asset to the newsgroup !! Its like Will Shakesphere said, "some are born great, some acheive greatness and some have greatness thrust upon them"* Cheers * - Twelveth night, Malvolio (I think). SignatureGermany's beloved sausages take a turn for the wurst http://sausagefans.com/newsarticle.php?id=68 > > weren't clear as he said Unlocking...... > > glad you are so polite and helpful...an asset to the newsgroup !! > > Its like Will Shakesphere said, "some are born great, some acheive > greatness and some have greatness thrust upon them"* Or like Prince Charles said "some are born great, (like me) and some try to achieve beyond their abilities" ;-) Steve Terry Ok, just a quick update for those that want to do a factory reset on the Nokia 7600 to reveal the Network Mode option under Settings > Phone Settings between Operator Selection and Confirm SIM Service Actions. Following the good advice given by various people (esp Lee) on this newsgroup, I figured that I'd write a quick post as some things did not seem obvious to me. Might be because I'm as thick as two short planks or not being around when god gave out brains, but nonetheless, some things were not obvious to me. ;0) Okay, you need one serial 7600 lead available from Phantom GSM or wherever else you go to get your leads: http://www.phantomgsm.com/product_info-38_62+53.html You need FBus by Maestro here: http://www.unlockme.co.uk/security.html (I also downloaded the recommended MSComm32.OCX from the same page and put it into windows/system but I don't know if that has any effect.) Okay, step-by-step instructions: 1. After taking the side strip and back panel off the phone (like you would to take out the battery), you need to take out the battery and then take out the rest of the back panel (this is the bit that fits seemlessly alongside the main back panel and is labelled Nokia). To get at this, where you put the SIM, if you try to apply pressure lifting the plastic upwards from there, it should come off. The SIM can stay in the phone. 2) The lead has a spongy bit to protect the pins - get rid of it. Put the two components of the lead together, the battery into the lead battery holder, and the lead into the phone battery holder. Connect the serial lead into the PC. Make sure that the lead stays inside the phone and does not fall out - do not be afraid to press the lead into the phone - it should fit the same space occupied by the batteries and the pins should push where they make contact with the phone in so that it fits in place. If the phone is switched off, switch it on - you will see the 3 logo (or whatever it is you put as wallpaper). 3) Fire up FBus. Change the COM port if you plugged the lead into a different COM port. Click the Full Factory Reset button. The Nokia wallpaper will go blank after 0.5 seconds, leaving the only thing you can see on the phone to be the network operator name and the labels to the option buttons plus an image on the bottom right. Basically, the wallpaper is blank now. Do not press any other button on the phone software. That's it. Close FBus and disconnect the phone. Switch it off, put the battery back in from the lead to the phone and switch it back on again. Haven't used the phone much so I'm not sure if the menus change a bit. You lose all your contact information but not your music files etc. This works on Windows XP to reaffirm what Lee said. AMO > (I also downloaded the recommended MSComm32.OCX from the same page and put > it into windows/system but I don't know if that has any effect.) It won't work unless mscomm32.ocx is in the windows/system folder. john <snip> Will this lead work? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=42407&item=63442624 74&rd=1 or does it require the one you mentioned that fits where the battery compartment is? > <snip> > Will this lead work? > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=42407&item=63442624 > 74&rd=1 or does it require the one you mentioned that fits where the battery > compartment is? Nope Has to be one that goes under the battery. I got mine from www.phantomgsm.com 7600 datalead about 7.50 quid including basic postage Steve Terry |
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