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Cellular Phone Forum / Country Specific / UK Group / March 20053g phone for sending e-mail from laptop _ Help plz
Hi, I have a Three account and a Motorola A1000. I have set up the Mac Powerbook to dial out over bluetooth and I am able to send out my pic files OK. However a 200K file takes around 1 min to be sent over e-mail. What speed is this? 3G or GRPS speed? If GRPS speed, any ideas on how I can obtain 3G speeds? The other option is to buy a dedicated 3G data card from Vodafone or Orange, but if I can get away with it, I don't want to. TIA Dave H D4@me.com reckoned that... > However a 200K file takes around 1 min to be sent over e-mail. What > speed is this? 3G or GRPS speed? 3G *is* GPRS 0 just faster. Remember also that connection is asymmetric - I.e. upload speed and download speed are not the same. > If GRPS speed, any ideas on how I can obtain 3G speeds? The phone will do this automatically. How have you managed to gain access to the wider internet via 3? They don't allow any traffic out of their walled garden content zone.  SignatureJon Parker Hi Jon, All I use 3 for is sending out e-mails of my pics from football matches. I usually e-mail about 2-3 meg at a time and it seems to take about 4-5 mins to send that size. I don't access any internet stuff. I would love to be able to FTP but 3 don't currently allow this. They don't even appear to let me access apop3 e-mail account either. Well not via my laptop. Think the only way I am going to be able to do what I really want is to get my old Motorola A835 unlocked and put an Orange data card sim in it. Then I could FTP and access my pop3 account. This would be more expensive though Dave H > D4@me.com reckoned that... > > However a 200K file takes around 1 min to be sent over e-mail. What [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > How have you managed to gain access to the wider internet via 3? They > don't allow any traffic out of their walled garden content zone. D4@me.com reckoned that... > All I use 3 for is sending out e-mails of my pics from football matches. > > I usually e-mail about 2-3 meg at a time and it seems to take about 4-5 > mins to send that size. > > I don't access any internet stuff. Sending email does count as "the wider internet" as it's not in 3's walled garden of content. SignatureJon Parker As he says that he can't use 'normal POP3 email' I guess he is using 3mail? Tariq xycom1@yahoo.com reckoned that... > As he says that he can't use 'normal POP3 email' I guess he is using > 3mail? On a laptop? I thought 3mail was handset-only? I acknowledge I could be wrong of course. SignatureJon Parker They use the standard POP3 mail program on some phones to deliver the service, so I don't see why you couldn't use a laptop, mail program and connection over bluetooth? Tariq xycom1@yahoo.com reckoned that... > They use the standard POP3 mail program on some phones to deliver the > service, so I don't see why you couldn't use a laptop, mail program and > connection over bluetooth? I thought it was all browser-based. SignatureJon Parker Nope, not on the Motorola A835 I had. Tried to do what the OP is doing though a year or so back and I couldn't get it to work though. Tariq Thanks Tariq and Jon for your help in this matter. It is appreciated Dave H > Nope, not on the Motorola A835 I had. Tried to do what the OP is doing > though a year or so back and I couldn't get it to work though. > > Tariq I am sending out e-mails on the smtp.three.co.uk mail server. Is this classed as wider internet? Dave H > D4@me.com reckoned that... > > All I use 3 for is sending out e-mails of my pics from football matches. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Sending email does count as "the wider internet" as it's not in 3's > walled garden of content. D4@me.com reckoned that... > I am sending out e-mails on the smtp.three.co.uk mail server. > > Is this classed as wider internet? I didn't realised you could do this from an external device - I thought it was handset-based only. My mistake. SignatureJon Parker Got a Mac Powerbook running OSX and a Motorola A1000 on a three tarrif. Set up network to use a modem script I got off the web. Basically put "NONE" for the number to dial. Works OK. Connect the phone and Powerbook via bluetooth and use smtp.three.co.uk as the outgoing mail server in my mail program. Can send out any size file I need to. Several gripes. 1, Can not access my pop3 account. 2, Can not FTP files out. 3, From talking to colleagues with 3g data cards from Orange and Vodafone, I seem to be getting transfer at slower speeds. How does 2 meg in 5 mins compare? Dave H > D4@me.com reckoned that... > > I am sending out e-mails on the smtp.three.co.uk mail server. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I didn't realised you could do this from an external device - I thought > it was handset-based only. My mistake. > Got a Mac Powerbook running OSX and a Motorola A1000 on a three tarrif. > Several gripes. 1, Can not access my pop3 account. 2, Can not FTP > files out. 3, From talking to colleagues with 3g data cards from Orange > and Vodafone, I seem to be getting transfer at slower speeds. How does > 2 meg in 5 mins compare? Equivalent to marginally faster than 2.5G GPRS speed. On my Orange 3G card, I think 1MB takes about a minute to download with a decent signal (and presumably a transmitter which is relatively quiet). Tariq Tariq, so if I got an Orange sim card for a 3g data card, got my old Motorola A835 (was on three) unlocked, would my thinking be correct that I could put the sim card in my motorola, connect from laptop to phone with bluetooth and let the 3g modem in the phone give me a transfer speed just as a data card in the PCMCIA slot? Can you get just orange sim cards for the data card without the data card? DAve H > > Got a Mac Powerbook running OSX and a Motorola A1000 on a three > tarrif. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Tariq > Tariq, so if I got an Orange sim card for a 3g data card, got my old > Motorola A835 (was on three) unlocked, would my thinking be correct > that I could put the sim card in my motorola, connect from laptop to > phone with bluetooth and let the 3g modem in the phone give me a > transfer speed just as a data card in the PCMCIA slot? You could, but I don't know whether you would get as fast a speed over a bluetooth phone connection compared to having a data card directly in your PC (or Mac :) There was another thread from the last couple of days about the speed of bluetooth - might be worth looking in there, as I'm not sure whether the maximum speed of bluetooth would be a limiting factor in your connection speed. The complication is that the Orange 3G Data card doesn't natively work with MacOS - you can get it to work (but I believe you have to purchase additional software to run it). The Vodafone 3G data card on the other hand, I believe can work with Macs directly? > Can you get just orange sim cards for the data card without the data > card? Nope, Orange don't sell pay monthly SIMs without phones and the 3G service isn't available on PAYG yet. Best chance is to transfer a SIM from someone who has one and doesn't want it anymore - try uk.adverts.telecom.mobile. Tariq D4@me.com reckoned that... > Tariq, so if I got an Orange sim card for a 3g data card, got my old > Motorola A835 (was on three) unlocked, would my thinking be correct > that I could put the sim card in my motorola, connect from laptop to > phone with bluetooth and let the 3g modem in the phone give me a > transfer speed just as a data card in the PCMCIA slot? Yes. > Can you get just orange sim cards for the data card without the data > card? No. SignatureJon Parker |
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