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Cellular Phone Forum / Country Specific / UK Group / April 2005T610 & 3 Network
Hi can anyone tell me if the sony t610 works on the three network. I have an unchipped phone and wanted to see if it work etc?? thanks > Hi can anyone tell me if the sony t610 works on the three network. I > have an unchipped phone and wanted to see if it work etc?? I believe this was discussed very recently. Basically, although it may well work, because its only a 2G handset, 3 won't be happy, as you'll technically be using o2 rather than 3. I think the discussion then went on to say that 3 would likely block the sim or at very least contact you to warn you. >Hi can anyone tell me if the sony t610 works on the three network. I >have an unchipped phone and wanted to see if it work etc?? An unchipped phone? I guess you mean a phone that isn't locked to a network, and/or one without a sim card. The answer is no, a T610 will not work on 3 because 3 is a UMTS network, and the T610 is a GSM handset. You might be able to use a 3 sim card in a T610 and connect to the O2 network, but that's a breach of 3's T&C's and they would cut you off pretty soon, if it hadn't broken the T610 in the attempt.  SignatureVisit the Hairydog Guide to Mobile Phones http://www.hairydog.co.uk/cell1.html - maintainers of http://www.mobileshop.org - the on-line mobile phone guide sponsored by http://www.mobileshop.com - the online store > The answer is no, a T610 will not work on 3 because 3 is a UMTS > network, and the T610 is a GSM handset. > > You might be able to use a 3 sim card in a T610 and connect to the O2 > network, but that's a breach of 3's T&C's and they would cut you off > pretty soon, if it hadn't broken the T610 in the attempt. It wont break the phone, im using (and have been for a few months) a o2 USIM in a 6310i. There is absolutley no way it can break the phone, if there was a problem the phone (as some brands do) would say so on start up...... insert sim, sim registration failed etc. Steve >> The answer is no, a T610 will not work on 3 because 3 is a UMTS >> network, and the T610 is a GSM handset. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Steve i've heard that 3 do use different usims and in some cases putting a 3 sim in a 2g only phone has damaged them. > i've heard that 3 do use different usims and in some cases putting a 3 > sim in a 2g only phone has damaged them. How have they been damaged. Sounds more like a story issued by 3 tubbies to stop customers doing that with their USIMS Cant imagine one networks USIM been different from another as they have been made in accordance with the 3gpp protocols as have the handsets and network build. Steve >> i've heard that 3 do use different usims and in some cases putting a 3 >> sim in a 2g only phone has damaged them. > > How have they been damaged. There has been anecdotal evidence of damage being done, but nothing conclusive. We've had two phone in for repair (Both T610's actually) that had corrupt GDFS areas after having a 3 USIM inserted, but whether the USIM was to blame I'll leave you to decide. > Sounds more like a story issued by 3 tubbies to stop customers doing that > with their USIMS It does, but there have been several reports over the last 18 months or so of problems being caused in various handsets. > Cant imagine one networks USIM been different from another as they have > been made in accordance with the 3gpp protocols as have the handsets and > network build. True, but on Vodafone for example a standard GSM SIM can access Voda's 3G network due to them not authenticating access. >>> Unlock Your Phone's Potential <<< >>> www.uselessinfo.org.uk <<< >>> www.thephonelocker.co.uk <<< >>> www.gsm-solutions.co.uk <<< no.way@com declared for all the world to hear... > How have they been damaged. 3G handsets occasional try to write data to a particular part of the SIM or USIM. On the USIM this area is able to be written to and read from as normal, however on an ordinary SIM the particular area in question is read-only and the act of the handset trying to write to it effectively destroys the SIM. That's what I read anyway. I have no idea if it's true or not. > Sounds more like a story issued by 3 tubbies to stop customers doing that > with their USIMS It's been reported here by more than one poster, there must be some mileage in it. SignatureRegards Jon >It's been reported here by more than one poster, there must be some >mileage in it. I seem to remember that we've only ever had reports of Philips handsets being damaged by the use of a 3 USIM. Can anyone recall in more detail? Dave SignatureEmail: dave@durge.org MSN Messenger: dave@durge.org jmandevia@hotmail.com declared for all the world to hear... > Hi can anyone tell me if the sony t610 works on the three network. I > have an unchipped phone and wanted to see if it work etc?? 3's T&Cs specifically prohibit use of non-3 supplied handsets. It may work for a few days but then you will end up barred. SignatureRegards Jon > jmandevia@hotmail.com declared for all the world to hear... >> Hi can anyone tell me if the sony t610 works on the three network. I >> have an unchipped phone and wanted to see if it work etc?? > > 3's T&Cs specifically prohibit use of non-3 supplied handsets. It may > work for a few days but then you will end up barred. Well that's the story Jon. However I've just finished 12 months with 3, during which time the sim has remained in my R380s and has been used heavily on a daily basis. The original handset, an A835, was sold after the first week. Andy andy.lord.uk@gmail.com declared for all the world to hear... > Well that's the story Jon. However I've just finished 12 months with 3, > during which time the sim has remained in my R380s and has been used heavily > on a daily basis. The original handset, an A835, was sold after the first > week. Then you are indeed a fortuitous individual, others have not been so lucky, ending up barred after a matter of days. SignatureRegards Jon > andy.lord.uk@gmail.com declared for all the world to hear... >> Well that's the story Jon. However I've just finished 12 months with 3, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Then you are indeed a fortuitous individual, others have not been so > lucky, ending up barred after a matter of days. Do you actually *know* that anyone has ever had a problem with this Jon? There's been a lot of talk about accounts being barred for doing this, but I know a few people who've used 3 sims in 2g handsets with no problems at all - as long as the sim works in the 2g handset to start with. I've never heard of *anyone* who's had their account barred for doing this though. Andy >> andy.lord.uk@gmail.com declared for all the world to hear... >>> Well that's the story Jon. However I've just finished 12 months with 3, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Do you actually *know* that anyone has ever had a problem with this Jon? I know of one person who has had their USIM barred by 3 for this, and I've received a warning for it (some time ago though). > There's been a lot of talk about accounts being barred for doing this, but > I know a few people who've used 3 sims in 2g handsets with no problems at > all - as long as the sim works in the 2g handset to start with. I've never > heard of *anyone* who's had their account barred for doing this though. Plenty of people have been warned off from doing it by 3, but I suspect that only the most persistant offenders have actually been booted. >>> Unlock Your Phone's Potential <<< >>> www.uselessinfo.org.uk <<< >>> www.thephonelocker.co.uk <<< >>> www.gsm-solutions.co.uk <<< andy.lord.uk@gmail.com declared for all the world to hear... > > Then you are indeed a fortuitous individual, others have not been so > > lucky, ending up barred after a matter of days. > Do you actually *know* that anyone has ever had a problem with this Jon? Only from what I have read in this newsgroup. I've not actually witnessed it myself as I do not have the necessary equipment to test it. SignatureRegards Jon |
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