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Cellular Phone Forum / Country Specific / UK Group / August 20053G surfing using laptop via phone
Hi I'm very new (3 days) to this 3G /GRPS business. I have my phone (Nokia 6630 on Orange) set up so I can connect my laptop to the Internet to get some really wizzy speeds but..... I don't understand the costs involved. I've started off with the Orangeworld 4, which means I can 'Download' 4mb per month - great for my work emails I thought. However, Someone told me that I will soon go through that using the web, as each page I visit can really chew into that 4mb. I thought I 'viewed' webpages on a server, not downloaded them???? How on earth do I guess what size a web page might be? This seems a very odd way of charging for mobilr broadband Ron O'Brien : I thought I 'viewed' webpages on a server, not downloaded them???? To *VIEW" a page it gets downloaded, through Orange GPRS and your phone, into your laptop (which displays it). : How on earth do I guess what size a web page might be? This seems a : very odd way of charging for mobile broadband Don't know about your phone and software but using my Motorola the phone itself has a status page including bytes and time for both "last data call" and "all data calls" (which I can reset at the start of the billing period) - these show roughly how the byes are mounting up. The "Mobile Phone Tools" access software for Motorolas also logs bytes for each GPRS session. > Don't know about your phone and software but using my Motorola the phone > itself has a status page including bytes and time for both "last data > call" > and "all data calls" (which I can reset at the start of the billing > period) - > these show roughly how the byes are mounting up. If my 6630 is typical then the data counters are less than useful. In fact mine never moves no mater how many Mb I zoom through the 'phone. admin@castcall.co.uk declared for all the world to hear... > Hi > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > earth do I guess what size a web page might be? This seems a very odd way of > charging for mobilr broadband A web page is a chunk of code which your browser turns into a meaningful display. In order to view a webpage you download the code for that webpage. A simple page will be about 20k while a complicated page with animations and sounds and flash can be over 100k. In internet explorer to see page size right-click on any part of the page which is not a link and choose properties. If you start using your 6630 for lots of web viewing I would consider upping your bundle. Email (without attachments) and things like MSN messenger take virtually no bandwidth, where you will use it up faster will be complex webpages and file downloads. As an introductory offer you should have got 1000Mb per month to use for 3 months completely free, if you did not get this then call Orange ask ask for the TRY 3G bundle to be added to your account.  SignatureRegards Jon >As an introductory offer you should have got 1000Mb per month to use for >3 months completely free, if you did not get this then call Orange ask >ask for the TRY 3G bundle to be added to your account. Just out of interest does anyone know the exact terms of these offers and how you get them, as the Orange web shite is useless. My wife and I have exactly the same tariffs, spend etc and have upgraded to 6680s in exactly the same Orange shop at the same time. The only difference is we have separate accounts. She seems to have been given the 1000 MB try data and video calling 30 (without asking, she'll never use them as she's locked her phone to 2g after having 3g problems on the second day) and I don't... On calling 150 they say I should talk to the shop about what was offered! Rgds Jonathan >>As an introductory offer you should have got 1000Mb per month to use for >>3 months completely free, if you did not get this then call Orange ask [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Rgds > Jonathan You should have the same as your wife - call Orange to get the neccessary bundles added to your account. SignatureAntz, Part of the UKtm family >You should have the same as your wife - call Orange to get the neccessary >bundles added to your account. Well Orange 150 just refer me to the Orange store that did the upgrade and my last experience of that Store convinced me that some of their staff would have difficulty operating a toaster, let alone accurately setting up an Orange account. When I did my last Orange upgrade a year ago they messed up the SIM updates and I was without a phone for a week so I can't risk that. We've also both just forced our phones to 2G only mode to actually make them work reliably so Orange data now seems a bit pointless..... and anyway that's what Vodafone's for isn't it? ;-) I was hoping someone may have the exact details of the offer so I can quote them to 150, but I've now become convinced Orange just make them up as they go along... Rgds Jonathan >>You should have the same as your wife - call Orange to get the neccessary >>bundles added to your account. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Rgds > Jonathan I don't understand why CS can't do it (in fact they've cocked up my bundles so many times that it's a monthly task to call them!!). Make sure you go to the billing section (option 2), and 'other queries about your bill' which takes you straight through to billing/accounts dept. You stated the bundles correctly in your previous message: Per month for 3 months: 1GB of data (WAP/3G only, NOT internet usage) 30 video calling minutes 3 free Music player downloads 3 Fire Player remix tracks [not sure if these two are still running, a Series 60 phone i.e. 6630/6680 is required] Hope this helps. SignatureAntz, Part of the UKtm family anthony_deadabo@hotmail.com declared for all the world to hear... > You stated the bundles correctly in your previous message: > > Per month for 3 months: > 1GB of data (WAP/3G only, NOT internet usage) You can use it for internet. SignatureRegards Jon > anthony_deadabo@hotmail.com declared for all the world to hear... >> You stated the bundles correctly in your previous message: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > You can use it for internet. Using your phone as a 3G modem via a PC/laptop? Or just internet sites from the phone's browser? SignatureAntz, Part of the UKtm family >-©LuVbuG©-< wrote: > > Using your phone as a 3G modem via a PC/laptop? Or just internet sites from > the phone's browser? I've been using my 1GB bundle to connect my laptop to the internet as well as using internet applications on the phone. I may have got my usage as high as 65MB last month! I haven't been charged on either of my last two bills. Steve. nospam@nospam.comm declared for all the world to hear... > >You should have the same as your wife - call Orange to get the neccessary > >bundles added to your account. Not necessarily, the tariff will have a bearing on what is and isn't available. > When I did my last Orange upgrade a year ago they messed up the SIM > updates and I was without a phone for a week so I can't risk that. Probably not the stores fault. > We've also both just forced our phones to 2G only mode to actually > make them work reliably so Orange data now seems a bit pointless..... > and anyway that's what Vodafone's for isn't it? ;-) I was hoping > someone may have the exact details of the offer so I can quote them to > 150, but I've now become convinced Orange just make them up as they go > along... It is called TRY 3G, and is offered with all 3G handset purchases, unless you are on an OVP tariff. If the store have not put it on for you then give them a ring and ask them to send a smartform asking for it as it got missed at the point of sale. SignatureRegards Jon > My wife and I have exactly the same tariffs, spend etc and have > upgraded to 6680s in exactly the same Orange shop at the same time. > The only difference is we have separate accounts. She seems to have > been given the 1000 MB try data and video calling 30 (without asking, > she'll never use them as she's locked her phone to 2g after having 3g > problems on the second day) and I don't... The problem does lie with the retail store that did the upgrade for you - get back onto them if CS aren't playing! Have you thought about combining the phones to a single account, though? You'll get 50% additional minutes free as part of "family". >Have you thought about combining the phones to a single account, though? > You'll get 50% additional minutes free as part of "family". I've never understood this. I have two of my own phones on my account but would never have someone elses. Do Orange allow you to disclaim responsibility for any calls made to a certain phone on your account? I'm sure the answer will be no... It could have all the free minutes in the world (and I often don't use half the "free" minutes I get anyway) but when she runs up a £ 500 roaming bill from UAE i'm sure not going to be the one to pay it! ;-) Rgds Jonathan > Hi > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Ron O'Brien 4Mb won't last very long. I went away for the bank holiday and just the virus updates for 10 days was >8Mb! >I don't understand the costs involved. I've started off with the Orangeworld >4, which means I can 'Download' 4mb per month - great for my work emails I >thought. However, Someone told me that I will soon go through that using the >web, as each page I visit can really chew into that 4mb. Indeed you will >I thought I 'viewed' webpages on a server, not downloaded them???? How do you think you can view the pages unless you download their contents? > How on >earth do I guess what size a web page might be? This seems a very odd way of >charging for mobilr broadband It's a matter of how competent the web designer/developers is. Good ones make pages with small file sizes, incompetent ones make them with big file sizes. And the difference can be more than a matter of ten times as big. It is a very good way to charge, I think. Why should the mobile networks subsidise incompetence? SignatureIain the out-of-date hairydog guide to mobile phones http://www.hairydog.co.uk/cell1.html Browse now while stocks last! > Hi > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Ron O'Brien Sign up with OnSpeed. It compresses your pages making them cheaper and faster to load. You can even specify the level of compression for web page images. Stu Signaturesubstitute domaininvalid.com with ntlworld.com for email >Sign up with OnSpeed. It compresses your pages making them cheaper and >faster to load. You can even specify the level of compression for web >page images. Complete waste of money if you are using Orange 3G. The Internet APN does this for you for free. Compressing twice is likely to be counter-productive. If you don't want the compression and downsampling, use the Office (VPN) APN instead. SignatureIain the out-of-date hairydog guide to mobile phones http://www.hairydog.co.uk/cell1.html Browse now while stocks last! |
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