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John - 23 Oct 2005 21:01 GMT
Hi. Can someone give me the brief lowdown on Bluetooth dongles for
PCs? I want to get one for my computer but I'm not sure completely
what I need to be looking at and what features. I've seen some that
say version 1.1 and others 1.2. Is the 1.2 the latest version for
bluetooth and what is the difference? Faster transfer rates? I am
getting a new mobile (cell) phone soon, so would use it mainly for
transferring photos etc to my computer.

Tia

John
Jon - 24 Oct 2005 07:43 GMT
don@lduck.com declared for all the world to hear...
> Hi. Can someone give me the brief lowdown on Bluetooth dongles for
> PCs? I want to get one for my computer but I'm not sure completely
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> getting a new mobile (cell) phone soon, so would use it mainly for
> transferring photos etc to my computer.

Difference usually means profiles supported. Get 1.2 and 100 metre
range. Should cost no more than £25.
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Joneseylah - 24 Oct 2005 19:42 GMT
>don@lduck.com declared for all the world to hear...
>> Hi. Can someone give me the brief lowdown on Bluetooth dongles for
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>Difference usually means profiles supported. Get 1.2 and 100 metre
>range. Should cost no more than £25.

Or £9.99 from Aldi on Thursday 27/10/05. see
http://www.aldi.co.uk/special_buys/product_433.html

It's Bluetooth 1.2 (Supports lots of profiles) and USB 2.0 compliant.
I bought one last time they were on offer and it works fine with
bluetooth headsets, mobiles etc.
John - 28 Oct 2005 23:16 GMT
I have just one or two more questions on Bluetooth dongles.

At first I though that these things were only up to version 1.2 with
the previous 1.1 still available to buy.

When I have visited a website selling them though it appears that
there is Class 1.2 and the latest class is class 2. (See below).

Class 1.2 Bluetooth Dongle (100m Range)
Class 2 Bluetooth Dongle (40m Range)  

My question is, what are the difference between these two apart from
the range? I understood the basic difference between 1.1 and 1.2, but
couldn't find much on class 2 from the sites I looked at.

Also, as far as the range is concerned, If Class 2 is backwards
compatible with Class 1.2 and 1.1, if you were only using features of
1.1 or 1.2 on the class 2 dongle, would you get an improved range to
the full 100m, or would it always be 40m on the class 2 version no
matter what features you use?

I don't really see range being that important with Bluetooth, because
it is mainly something for short range transfers is it not? I.E.
transferring photos from phone or camera to computer etc?

Finally, are there any dangers using bluetooth? eg Radiation etc? They
transmit using radio waves right?

John
hairydog@despammed.com - 29 Oct 2005 00:13 GMT
>My question is, what are the difference between these two apart from
>the range?

As far as I know, it is just the range

>Also, as far as the range is concerned, If Class 2 is backwards
>compatible with Class 1.2 and 1.1, if you were only using features of
>1.1 or 1.2 on the class 2 dongle, would you get an improved range to
>the full 100m, or would it always be 40m on the class 2 version no
>matter what features you use?

Both ends need to be able to manage the range. If A can send signal to
B, but B can't send signal to A, you are stuffed.

>I don't really see range being that important with Bluetooth, because
>it is mainly something for short range transfers is it not? I.E.
>transferring photos from phone or camera to computer etc?

Depends on what you use it for. 1 metre well may be enough for you.

>Finally, are there any dangers using bluetooth? eg Radiation etc? They
>transmit using radio waves right?

Are there any dangers eating bread? eg Water etc? Bread contains water
and people drown in water.

So do you think people should only eat stale bread for fear of
drowning?

If there is a risk from radio waves, what you should worry about is
the 2,000,000 watt TV transmitters, the 750,000 watt FM Radio
transmitters, the who-knows-what-watts military radio and radar
transmitters, not the 30 watt mobile phone bases, up to 0.5 watt
mobile phones, up to 0.01 watt Class 2 bluetooth or up to 0.1 watt
Class 1 Bluetooth.

Let's be clear about this. There are clearly defined accepted limits
for radio frequency exposure. There limits are set at one fifth of a
level that is believed to be completely safe. No mobile phone or
mobile base comes near this "one fifth of a safe limit" level. A
bluetooth device couldn't come near it even if you swallowed the
thing.

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rivenglo - 29 Oct 2005 21:46 GMT
> bluetooth device couldn't come near it even if you swallowed the
> thing.

Would that be the phone or the dongle??
hairydog@despammed.com - 30 Oct 2005 20:30 GMT
>Would that be the phone or the dongle??

If you swallowed a phone, RF would not be your problem.

However, I have a USB Bluetooth adapter which is probably small enough
to swallow, You'd need to attach a cable, though. Maybe not a wise
move.

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rivenglo - 31 Oct 2005 14:55 GMT
>>Would that be the phone or the dongle??
>
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> to swallow, You'd need to attach a cable, though. Maybe not a wise
> move.

lol
Jon - 29 Oct 2005 19:08 GMT
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> When I have visited a website selling them though it appears that
> there is Class 1.2 and the latest class is class 2. (See below).

There are 3 power classes. Class 1 is the most powerful, having a max
range of around 100m, class 2 is good for about 10m (this is the power
class you see in mobile phones) and class 3 has a range of about 1m
(I've never seen this power class used.

There are also bluetooth version numbers, this is where the 1.0, 1.1 and
1.2 business comes in. Higher version numbers have support for more
advanced profiles, such as HID (Human Interface Device - keyboard, mouse
etc) and SAP (SIM Access Profile - used in built-in vehicle phone system
to allow the contents of the SIM card to be read by the car kit).
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Jon

 
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