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Mick - 28 Dec 2005 20:22 GMT
A neighbour (older lady who lives alone) has recieved correspondence from
Virgin to confirm the registration of a phone to a chap she has never heard
of to her address. Her address is rather distinctive so not likely to be a
simple error of spelling or typing.
Is there likely to be anything to worry over or should she just bin the
letter. - TIA - Mick
Fedz - 28 Dec 2005 20:51 GMT
> A neighbour (older lady who lives alone) has recieved correspondence
> from Virgin to confirm the registration of a phone to a chap she has
> never heard of to her address. Her address is rather distinctive so
> not likely to be a simple error of spelling or typing.
> Is there likely to be anything to worry over or should she just bin
> the letter. - TIA - Mick

You don't say if this is PAYG or contract with virgin.

Whichever it is I'd goto the Virgin mobile website to clarify the contact
numbers for Virgin are correct - match the website with the letter.

I'd be more inclined to use the website contact details for Virgin as you
never know if the letter is fake and the number on the letter is a con-man
after any bank details ...etc of the lady. It would help if you could be
their to make sure things are as they should be when she phones Virgin:)

Inform Virgin of the error - you wouldn't want the armed response team and
or drug-squad busting in on her in error if the actual phne owner is of
questionable behaviour - you never know :)

If it is contract the lady would be getting billed and it would save alot
of possible hassle later to inform Virgin straight away.

It'd be nice if you could post a follow-up here with what Virgin say/do -
in case this is the start of a con-man so others have heads-up if it
happens to them :)

It's commendable you are helping her :)
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William - 28 Dec 2005 21:02 GMT
> A neighbour (older lady who lives alone) has recieved correspondence from
> Virgin to confirm the registration of a phone to a chap she has never heard
> of to her address. Her address is rather distinctive so not likely to be a
> simple error of spelling or typing.
> Is there likely to be anything to worry over or should she just bin the
> letter. - TIA - Mick

I think it is worrying, the same happened to myself last week.

I received a flyer in the post saying that I had earned £10 off a new
phone, however the mobile number stated wasn't mine. When I queried
this with Virgin and told them it is not my number they replied and
said that it is definately registered to my name and address.

I tried the stated number and it is valid. I expressed my concern to
Virgin that someone may have fraudulently registered that number, and
they could be using it for criminal reasons, but after reading your
post it looks like they have screwed up their user database.

Is this a breach of data protection?
Mick - 28 Dec 2005 21:11 GMT
Mick wrote:
> A neighbour (older lady who lives alone) has recieved correspondence from
> Virgin to confirm the registration of a phone to a chap she has never
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Is there likely to be anything to worry over or should she just bin the
> letter. - TIA - Mick

I think it is worrying, the same happened to myself last week.

I received a flyer in the post saying that I had earned £10 off a new
phone, however the mobile number stated wasn't mine. When I queried
this with Virgin and told them it is not my number they replied and
said that it is definately registered to my name and address.

I tried the stated number and it is valid. I expressed my concern to
Virgin that someone may have fraudulently registered that number, and
they could be using it for criminal reasons, but after reading your
post it looks like they have screwed up their user database.

Is this a breach of data protection?

Thanks for the replies. I will take the advice and contact Virgin on the
ladies behalf (she is in the early stages of alzheimers and unable to do so
herself). I will reply on here with the answer from Virgin. It doesn't say
whether it's payg or contract but gives the mobile number. - Thanks - Mick
Jon - 29 Dec 2005 07:22 GMT
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> A neighbour (older lady who lives alone) has recieved correspondence from
> Virgin to confirm the registration of a phone to a chap she has never heard
> of to her address. Her address is rather distinctive so not likely to be a
> simple error of spelling or typing.
> Is there likely to be anything to worry over or should she just bin the
> letter. - TIA - Mick

She should report it to Virgin mobile for sure, it could be the
beginning of some kind of identity theft/fraud.
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hairydog@despammed.com - 29 Dec 2005 11:21 GMT
>A neighbour (older lady who lives alone) has recieved correspondence from
>Virgin to confirm the registration of a phone to a chap she has never heard
>of to her address. Her address is rather distinctive so not likely to be a
>simple error of spelling or typing.
>Is there likely to be anything to worry over or should she just bin the
>letter. - TIA - Mick

I would be concerned, and report it to Virgin.

It could be the first step in an identity fraud scam.

It could be that she will start getting his phone bills (and a bad
credit rating when she fails to pay them).

It could be that the person is going to do something illegal and
wanted the phone associated with somewhere else.

I can't think of a benign reason for it happening.

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Mick - 29 Dec 2005 12:29 GMT
>>A neighbour (older lady who lives alone) has recieved correspondence from
>>Virgin to confirm the registration of a phone to a chap she has never
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> I can't think of a benign reason for it happening.

Tried to phone Virgin but after about 5 minutes of listening to rubbish was
advised that it could be 20 minutes or more before an operator was
available. Have emailed them instead. - Mick
robertharvey@my-deja.com - 29 Dec 2005 12:38 GMT
> Tried to phone Virgin but after about 5 minutes of listening to rubbish was
> advised that it could be 20 minutes or more before an operator was
> available. Have emailed them instead. - Mick

Virgin have been unobtainable for several weeks.  They don't answer the
phone and they probably won't take any notice of email.
Write a letter, copy it to her soliciter and send it "special delivery"
robertharvey@my-deja.com - 29 Dec 2005 12:52 GMT
> A neighbour (older lady who lives alone) has recieved correspondence from
> Virgin to confirm the registration of a phone to a chap she has never heard
> of to her address. Her address is rather distinctive so not likely to be a
> simple error of spelling or typing.
> Is there likely to be anything to worry over or should she just bin the
> letter. - TIA - Mick

The more I think about it the more concerned I am.  I think she should
go to the police.  Someone is obviously committing a crime of some sort.
Mick - 30 Dec 2005 15:28 GMT
>> A neighbour (older lady who lives alone) has recieved correspondence from
>> Virgin to confirm the registration of a phone to a chap she has never
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> The more I think about it the more concerned I am.  I think she should
> go to the police.  Someone is obviously committing a crime of some sort.

Virgin seem to have the same policy to emails as they do to speaking on the
phone - they don't. Just hope that if it is a con then it's virgin that lose
out. Kept a copy of the email to virgin so that if they start writing in the
future chasing any payments we will not be involved. Of course they would
not get a reply unless they took it to a higher level.
Mick
Mick - 31 Dec 2005 12:27 GMT
>>> A neighbour (older lady who lives alone) has recieved correspondence
>>> from
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> course they would not get a reply unless they took it to a higher level.
> Mick
Just had reply from virgin - says they normally reply within 24 hours but at
the moment 72 hours - wonder if this means another 72 hours before they
actually read the letter. They tell me to phone them if it is urgent!

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE  - Mick 59%N
 
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