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simba@actcom.co.il - 23 Oct 2006 23:11 GMT

Hello,

Managed to get my vodaphone blackberry unlocked now, put in my Orange sim
and it says data connection refused.

been told I need to get Blackberry service enabled on the sim.....anyone
know if its 100% neeeded? cant i use gprs to send mails from the device?

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Geoff Winkless - 24 Oct 2006 10:35 GMT

> Hello,
>
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> been told I need to get Blackberry service enabled on the sim.....anyone
> know if its 100% neeeded? cant i use gprs to send mails from the device?

Assuming you haven't done it already you need to change the GPRS
settings to work on Orange's, rather than Vodafone's, servers.

Search the web for Orange GPRS settings, it should be fairly simple to
change.

You do also need Blackberry service if you want instant-on email. I
don't know if the blackberry would work as a non-instant device without
it, perhaps someone else does?

Geoff

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Colin Forrester - 24 Oct 2006 10:42 GMT

> You do also need Blackberry service if you want instant-on email. I
> don't know if the blackberry would work as a non-instant device without
> it, perhaps someone else does?

There lies the problem - I have never found any settings related to
managing any email facility.

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Mike - 24 Oct 2006 11:05 GMT

>Managed to get my vodaphone blackberry unlocked now, put in my Orange sim
>and it says data connection refused.

"Data connection refused" means (I'm fairly sure after struggling with
the same problem for some time) that the network is blocking the
outbound GPRS connection attempt because it recognises that you're
using a Blackberry without paying for "Blackberry service". You'll
see a lower-case "gprs" on the display in these circumstances and you
need to see an upper-case "GPRS" before GPRS will actually work.

I'm at a loss to understand why all the UK networks discriminate
against Blackberries but, unlike other GPRS-capable handsets, it's not
possible to use a Blackberry to make outbound TCP/IP connections over
GPRS without paying extra to the network.

If anyone knows different, I'd be delighted to be shown to be wrong.

Mike.

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Simon Dobson - 24 Oct 2006 13:56 GMT

> Hello,
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> been told I need to get Blackberry service enabled on the sim.....anyone
> know if its 100% neeeded? cant i use gprs to send mails from the device?

Have you read my email in the other thread, "Orange Blackberry"?

From this morning @ 0:19.

You're unlikely to get this working I'm afraid. I gave up in the end and
asked the guy I bought my 2nd hand one from for a refund. He worked at
Orange too and was unable to get their CSR's to aid in any way.

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