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Cellular Phone Forum / Country Specific / UK Group / November 2006(more) Orange questions
Hi all, I've been intending to move to Dolphin 35 on Orange (500 minutes, 500 texts, Magic Number). Question 1 is: - if the number I've chosen for a magic number migrates to another network, do I get to choose a different (Orange) number at that point, or must I wait until the 6-month 'anniversary' (when you get to add another one anyway)? - If I'm calling any mobile network (not particularly Orange, mainly but not totally in the evening), what's the best £35 deal on Orange with at least 350 texts and 500 minutes? And finally (a bit hopeful): - anyone seen any particularly good deals on any network for the Orange M3100/ MDA Vario II/ O2 XDA whatsit with around 300-500 texts and 500 minutes? Any input appreciated. Thanks Nick Hi all, I've been intending to move to Dolphin 35 on Orange (500 minutes, 500 texts, Magic Number). Question 1 is: - if the number I've chosen for a magic number migrates to another network, do I get to choose a different (Orange) number at that point, or must I wait until the 6-month 'anniversary' (when you get to add another one anyway)? - If I'm calling any mobile network (not particularly Orange, mainly but not totally in the evening), what's the best £35 deal on Orange with at least 350 texts and 500 minutes? And finally (a bit hopeful): - anyone seen any particularly good deals on any network for the Orange M3100/ MDA Vario II/ O2 XDA whatsit with around 300-500 texts and 500 minutes? Any input appreciated. Thanks Nick Hi, There is superb information on Orange/M3100 on the Modaco forum. There is some very good info on the best tariffs to get and, more importantly, HOW certain people appear to have been haggling with Orange and getting better deals. In particular, there is info on an Orange unlimited data bundle which, from what I gather, does not 'officially' exist yet but some people appear to know exactly how to get the telesales people to give it to them. One person appears to have been told that now is not the best time to change his Oange plan and was told to wait a few weeks for some kind of annoucement - I think this was earlier this month. I think Orange have to do something re an unlimited data tarrif just in order to compete with the likes of T-Mobile. From the Modaco forum it appears some people, re above, are getting this now and I assume that an official annoucement must be coming soon from Orange. I noticed a story on the Register a few weeks back saying how Orange were now going to keep MSN Messenger on the Windows Mobile platform - they had been developing their own IM client - but it looks like, IMPO, that they have taken note of the forums where people were saying they would leave Orange if Orange blocked the MSN Messenger client. Anyhow, I intend to wait for better tariffs to be forthcoming before going for an M3100. If it does not happen before Christmas then in the New Year I will be leaving Orange after being with them for years. Go to Modaco's forum and do a search for 'M3100' and then for 'Orange' and read the lengthy threads on the subject. John. nickdrew90@hotmail.com declared for all the world to hear... > Hi all, > > I've been intending to move to Dolphin 35 on Orange (500 minutes, 500 > texts, Magic Number). If you did it an an Orange shop you would get the "unlimited" text offer. > Question 1 is: > - if the number I've chosen for a magic number migrates to another > network, do I get to choose a different (Orange) number at that point, Yes. > or must I wait until the 6-month 'anniversary' (when you get to add > another one anyway)? No. > - If I'm calling any mobile network (not particularly Orange, mainly > but not totally in the evening), what's the best =A335 deal on Orange > with at least 350 texts and 500 minutes? The one you have already identified.  SignatureRegards Jon > nickdrew90@hotmail.com declared for all the world to hear... >> Hi all, >> I've been intending to move to Dolphin 35 on Orange (500 minutes, 500 >> texts, Magic Number). > If you did it an an Orange shop you would get the "unlimited" text > offer. Is there any fair usage barrier? I mean, you could use it to top up all your mates' phones on Three WePay using a computer to make your phone send off a few thousand texts. Mike Hall >> nickdrew90@hotmail.com declared for all the world to hear... >>> Hi all, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > your mates' phones on Three WePay using a computer to make your phone send > off a few thousand texts. I don't read this NG much but guess I better start doing so. First question is to Jon, I'm guessing you work for Orange in some capacity? >>> nickdrew90@hotmail.com declared for all the world to hear... >>>> Hi all, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I don't read this NG much but guess I better start doing so. First > question is to Jon, I'm guessing you work for Orange in some capacity? No matter, after further browsing I see you do. I loved Orange up until a year or so ago and then France Telecom got involved or something, I dunno but it all went tits up after that. Customer Service is appalling at best, online account access is dire and frankly myself and at least eight other family members are moving away from Orange. I for one am sick of spending 30 minutes sat in a queue trying to resolve a problem when I used to get an instant response. Furthermore, the contract and PAYG deals are no longer competitive. Good riddance. parva.spamtrap.@dsl.pipex.com declared for all the world to hear... > I don't read this NG much but guess I better start doing so. First question > is to Jon, I'm guessing you work for Orange in some capacity? I am Manager of the Orange Shop in Gentlemans Walk, Norwich. SignatureRegards Jon > parva.spamtrap.@dsl.pipex.com declared for all the world to hear... >> I don't read this NG much but guess I better start doing so. First question >> is to Jon, I'm guessing you work for Orange in some capacity? > > I am Manager of the Orange Shop in Gentlemans Walk, Norwich. Forgive me for being cynical, but I've been visiting this newsgroup for years and I remember a time when employees of the Telecom Companies could get into trouble for posting here. I'm also a moderator on another forum and Telecom employees have suddenly started appearing there. Is this a concerted effort to try to negate all the flax? Orange seem particularly active ;-) SignatureDave C davec@nospam.org.uk declared for all the world to hear... > > I am Manager of the Orange Shop in Gentlemans Walk, Norwich. > Forgive me for being cynical, but I've been visiting this newsgroup for > years and I remember a time when employees of the Telecom Companies > could get into trouble for posting here. Well if I posted something outrageous and signed it as "Jon Parker, speaking on behalf of Orange" then yes I probably might. I don't speak for Orange on this newsgroup or any other forum, my opinions are very much own :-) > I'm also a moderator on another forum and Telecom employees have > suddenly started appearing there. I've been posting to uk.t.m for about 7 years I think. > Is this a concerted effort to try to negate all the flax? > Orange seem particularly active ;-) There's a quite a bit going on at the moment, and call queues are a nightmare, nobody can deny that. Things are happening to try and put it right but it's not an instant thing. SignatureRegards Jon >I've been visiting this newsgroup for >years and I remember a time when employees of the Telecom Companies >could get into trouble for posting here. I've been reading this group for many years, and I have no recollection of such a thing. Quite the opposite. I remember that Ben for Orange being a valued member of several discussions, and loads of phone company people contributing. Do you really want to exclude people who have real information? How silly! SignatureIain the out-of-date hairydog guide to mobile phones http://www.hairydog.co.uk/cell1.html Browse now while stocks last! >> I've been visiting this newsgroup for >> years and I remember a time when employees of the Telecom Companies [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Do you really want to exclude people who have real information? How > silly! Didn't say that. Just that there seems to be a lot more people openly admitting they work for a particular telco. SignatureDave C >> Do you really want to exclude people who have real information? How >> silly! >> >Didn't say that. Just that there seems to be a lot more people openly >admitting they work for a particular telco. I misread what you meant. When you said "I remember a time when employees of the Telecom Companies could get into trouble for posting here." I thought you mean getting hassle from the newsgroup users. But you meant from their employers, didn't you? Sorry. SignatureIain the out-of-date hairydog guide to mobile phones http://www.hairydog.co.uk/cell1.html Browse now while stocks last! >>> Do you really want to exclude people who have real information? How >>> silly! [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > here." I thought you mean getting hassle from the newsgroup users. But > you meant from their employers, didn't you? Sorry. No probs SignatureDave C tarrow@spam3block.yahoo.com declared for all the world to hear... > > nickdrew90@hotmail.com declared for all the world to hear... > >> Hi all, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > your mates' phones on Three WePay using a computer to make your phone send > off a few thousand texts. The fair use on this one defines 3000 per month as "reasonable". SignatureRegards Jon > tarrow@spam3block.yahoo.com declared for all the world to > hear... [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > The fair use on this one defines 3000 per month as > "reasonable". They shouldn't use the word "unlimited" unless they mean exactly that. Unlimited means without *any* limits; if they are going to limit it, even to a high level, it is no longer "un" limited and should not be described as such. Surely this practice (by no means limited to Orange) falls foul of the Trade Descriptions Act..? If not it should do. Ivor >> Mike Hall declared for all the world to hear... >> > > nickdrew90@hotmail.com declared for all the world to hear... >> > > > I've been intending to move to Dolphin 35 on Orange >> > > > (500 minutes, 500 texts, Magic Number). [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > as such. Surely this practice (by no means limited to Orange) falls foul > of the Trade Descriptions Act..? If not it should do. There are probably an asterisk next to "unlimited". You can get away with murder if you use an asterisk! 100 texts a day seems a bit too pathetic to be called "unlimited" though, especially if you regularly cc texts, since that's only 5 a day cced to 20 friends. And we can't rip off Hutchinson which is even worse! Mike Hall ivor@despammed.invalid declared for all the world to hear... > They shouldn't use the word "unlimited" unless they mean exactly that. I agree. > Unlimited means without *any* limits; if they are going to limit it, even > to a high level, it is no longer "un" limited and should not be described > as such. Surely this practice (by no means limited to Orange) falls foul > of the Trade Descriptions Act..? If not it should do. If it did I think we would have been done for it now. As it happens I do agree but it's all about marketing isn't it. SignatureRegards Jon |
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