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Nokia N80 SIM free

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Motorcyclesaur - 09 Nov 2006 12:14 GMT
Having read the threads regarding the problems of the Nokia N80, it seems
that the affected phones are the ones supplied by the mobile network
providers (e.g. Voda, O2, etc.). Can anyone confirm?

If that's the case, since the annual running cost would roughly be the same
(with the phone itself costing about £325), I would still be interested in
this model and would be happy to get it SIM free on a PAYG basis. The reason
for this choice is that the only other phone that would satisfy my current
needs (WiFi and Symbian S60 OS) is the Nokia N95, not yet available, and
there is no reason to keep paying a contract when they do not provide me
with a phone.

Can anyone help me with the following?

1. What would I lose with a SIM free model, with general software version
(still have to decide what network, probably Voda)?

2. Do all suppliers in Europe sell SIM free phones with the same kind of
software, or do they come with network software anyway (especially now that
there must be plenty unsold)?

3. Can you suggest a reliable supplier (UK or Europe) where I can buy and be
confident that if there is anything wrong they will assist me (e.g. return
the phone and get refund)?

Thanks for your help.
ACDeag - 09 Nov 2006 18:13 GMT
Motorcyclesaur explained on 09/11/2006 :
> Having read the threads regarding the problems of the Nokia N80, it seems
> that the affected phones are the ones supplied by the mobile network
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>
> Thanks for your help.

I do not believe O2 customise theirs other than adding an O2 theme to
it, which you can change.
Matthew Long - 09 Nov 2006 22:29 GMT
> I do not believe O2 customise theirs other than adding an O2 theme to it,
> which you can change.

This is certainly the case with a Nokia N73 I looked at the other day in an
O2 shop. No customisation whatsoever - A welcome change, and my biggest
issue with all the other providers. Not that I'd ever touch O2!

It's amazing that most of phone networks are giving Nokia the cold shoulder
because of the dodgy software in their phones, when it's *their* software
that is crippling them!

I would gladly pay £100+ more, to have an original phone and customise it
*my* way!

Matthew Long
PajaP - 09 Nov 2006 23:23 GMT
>> I do not believe O2 customise theirs other than adding an O2 theme to it,
>> which you can change.
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>I would gladly pay £100+ more, to have an original phone and customise it
>*my* way!

Could not agree more.

Thankfully I know a guy at a Nokia service centre who removes the
branded firmware for me, for free.

A few pounds also gets me the branding removed from the case (well £10
in the case of the N91 to replace the slide bezel).

Looks like it is going to cost £17 to do the same to my N73 (battery
cover).

Then it is another £20 for the unlock.

Much better than £100+ though ;)

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PajaP

Jack Torrence - 14 Nov 2006 08:32 GMT
>>> I do not believe O2 customise theirs other than adding an O2 theme to
>>> it,
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>
> Could not agree more.

Why?

The network specific firmware is still written by Nokia. Whilst I strongly
disagree with most network customisation the blame for buggy firmware can be
safely laid at Nokia's door.
PajaP - 14 Nov 2006 17:58 GMT
>>>> I do not believe O2 customise theirs other than adding an O2 theme to
>>>> it,
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>disagree with most network customisation the blame for buggy firmware can be
>safely laid at Nokia's door.

I never said Nokia do not write it. I am well aware they do.
They write it (or rather customise it) to the operators request
though. This is where the problems come in.
If An operator has the software customised to 'their' requirements,
then it becomes 'their' software.

Think  of the Orange Home screen that could not be turned off on many
of their 'customised' phones (though thankfully they now allow it to
be turned off on newer models).
This was how my 6680 was until I got it flashed with Nokia 'default'
firmware. Much better for it.

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PajaP

Jon - 10 Nov 2006 07:23 GMT
no_sp@m.net declared for all the world to hear...
> It's amazing that most of phone networks are giving Nokia the cold shoulder
> because of the dodgy software in their phones, when it's *their* software
> that is crippling them!

Nokia write the software you know. Networks just tell Nokia what they
want and then Nokia make it happen.
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Jon

Schtop! - 10 Nov 2006 09:52 GMT
> no_sp@m.net declared for all the world to hear...
> > It's amazing that most of phone networks are giving Nokia the cold shoulder
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> Regards
> Jon

Jon,

I find your faith in the networks endearing... If somewhat naive :-)
Richard Colton - 10 Nov 2006 11:29 GMT
>> no_sp@m.net declared for all the world to hear...
>> > It's amazing that most of phone networks are giving Nokia the cold
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>
> I find your faith in the networks endearing... If somewhat naive :-)

Jon is right.  The customised firmware is written by the manufacturer on
behalf of the networks and is distributed directly from them as (in the case
of Nokia) a customised PPM.

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