> I do not believe O2 customise theirs other than adding an O2 theme to it,
> which you can change.
This is certainly the case with a Nokia N73 I looked at the other day in an
O2 shop. No customisation whatsoever - A welcome change, and my biggest
issue with all the other providers. Not that I'd ever touch O2!
It's amazing that most of phone networks are giving Nokia the cold shoulder
because of the dodgy software in their phones, when it's *their* software
that is crippling them!
I would gladly pay £100+ more, to have an original phone and customise it
*my* way!
Matthew Long
PajaP - 09 Nov 2006 23:23 GMT
>> I do not believe O2 customise theirs other than adding an O2 theme to it,
>> which you can change.
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>I would gladly pay £100+ more, to have an original phone and customise it
>*my* way!
Could not agree more.
Thankfully I know a guy at a Nokia service centre who removes the
branded firmware for me, for free.
A few pounds also gets me the branding removed from the case (well £10
in the case of the N91 to replace the slide bezel).
Looks like it is going to cost £17 to do the same to my N73 (battery
cover).
Then it is another £20 for the unlock.
Much better than £100+ though ;)

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Jack Torrence - 14 Nov 2006 08:32 GMT
>>> I do not believe O2 customise theirs other than adding an O2 theme to
>>> it,
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>
> Could not agree more.
Why?
The network specific firmware is still written by Nokia. Whilst I strongly
disagree with most network customisation the blame for buggy firmware can be
safely laid at Nokia's door.
PajaP - 14 Nov 2006 17:58 GMT
>>>> I do not believe O2 customise theirs other than adding an O2 theme to
>>>> it,
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>disagree with most network customisation the blame for buggy firmware can be
>safely laid at Nokia's door.
I never said Nokia do not write it. I am well aware they do.
They write it (or rather customise it) to the operators request
though. This is where the problems come in.
If An operator has the software customised to 'their' requirements,
then it becomes 'their' software.
Think of the Orange Home screen that could not be turned off on many
of their 'customised' phones (though thankfully they now allow it to
be turned off on newer models).
This was how my 6680 was until I got it flashed with Nokia 'default'
firmware. Much better for it.

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Jon - 10 Nov 2006 07:23 GMT
no_sp@m.net declared for all the world to hear...
> It's amazing that most of phone networks are giving Nokia the cold shoulder
> because of the dodgy software in their phones, when it's *their* software
> that is crippling them!
Nokia write the software you know. Networks just tell Nokia what they
want and then Nokia make it happen.

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Schtop! - 10 Nov 2006 09:52 GMT
> no_sp@m.net declared for all the world to hear...
> > It's amazing that most of phone networks are giving Nokia the cold shoulder
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> Regards
> Jon
Jon,
I find your faith in the networks endearing... If somewhat naive :-)
Richard Colton - 10 Nov 2006 11:29 GMT
>> no_sp@m.net declared for all the world to hear...
>> > It's amazing that most of phone networks are giving Nokia the cold
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>
> I find your faith in the networks endearing... If somewhat naive :-)
Jon is right. The customised firmware is written by the manufacturer on
behalf of the networks and is distributed directly from them as (in the case
of Nokia) a customised PPM.

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