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I need to leave Orange. Best option for a low call/high data user?

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LeeJS - 16 Nov 2006 16:57 GMT
I'm currently using a Hermes/tytn clone on the Orange network with my
old 1990's SIM card on a Virgin OVP tariff. My phone bills are rarely
more than £4 or £5 a month. My company pays for my data access on top
of call charges.

Orange have told me that unless I budge from my cosy occupancy of the
OVP tariff I can't have access to any 3G services. They won't send me
a 3G SIM and I can't 'officially' upgrade the handset to get one
unless I move to a proper tariff. By this they mean one that wastes my
money on call bundles I would never use.

As such, I've decided switching to PAYG is the only option open to me.
I'm tempted by the T-Mobile web and walk plans but I see the £7.50
option is available on pay monthly only.

Would I be able to get my number ported on to a T-Mob 'SIM only' pay
monthly account and add web and walk for another £7.50?

Any other ideas? I'm open to any suggestions!

Lee.
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Jon - 16 Nov 2006 21:42 GMT
lee@nospamw2designs.co.uk declared for all the world to hear...
> I'm currently using a Hermes/tytn clone on the Orange network with my
> old 1990's SIM card on a Virgin OVP tariff. My phone bills are rarely
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Any other ideas? I'm open to any suggestions!

Get a t-mobile contract on a 3G phone and flog the phone on eBay, put
teh SIM in your tytn.
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Regards
Jon

LeeJS - 17 Nov 2006 10:23 GMT
>lee@nospamw2designs.co.uk declared for all the world to hear...
>> I'm currently using a Hermes/tytn clone on the Orange network with my
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>Get a t-mobile contract on a 3G phone and flog the phone on eBay, put
>teh SIM in your tytn.

Er..you mean a contract that costs me £30+ a month forever for calls I
won't ever use? Compared to the £6 a month tops I spend now? Thanks
for the suggestion but that doesn't like very good value to me.

Lee.
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lee at w2designs dot co dot uk

If I have one flaw, it's that I'm a perfectoinist.

Steve Dulieu - 16 Nov 2006 23:06 GMT
> I'm currently using a Hermes/tytn clone on the Orange network with my
> old 1990's SIM card on a Virgin OVP tariff. My phone bills are rarely
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Any other ideas? I'm open to any suggestions!

If you take this tariff,
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/Dispatcher?menuid=weboffers_personal_sim_only_pm
you can add web n walk to it for an extra £7.50 pm making £15 pm total (the
trick is to phone T-Mobile CS to get the tariff rather than getting it via
the web). You can port your OVP number on to it by getting your PAC from
Orange, then phoning the T-Mobile number porting line on 0845 412 5000. You
do not have to port in when you join, any time up to 6 months after
connection will do.
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Cheers, Steve.
Change from jealous to sad to reply.

simonclark123@hotmail.com - 16 Nov 2006 23:55 GMT
I would definitely follow Steve's advice.

AFAIK only Orange have this ridiculous practice of refusing to issue a
3g sim if requested - I'm about to move my main (Orange non 3g sim)
number into my Orange Business contract as an additional sharer and put
it into an Orange M3100. Will Orange supply me with a 3g sim (I don't
even mind paying!)? No.

AFAIK most other providers don't even have different sims for 3g and
non 3g any more - when I asked T-Mobile, they didn't even understand
the question, and eventually someone at T-Mobile told me all their new
sims are 3g anyway.

As an Orange customer for nearly 10 years, my data usage is now 100%
T-Mobile; not only do I have 3g but HSDPA. On the Business Tariff I
took out recently with Orange, I should have had 2 months free 'Try 3g'
- this was removed from my account in error after just over 2 weeks,
but because this particular offer no longer existed by then, they were
unable to correct their error!

Regards

Simon Clark
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hairydog@despammed.com - 17 Nov 2006 10:34 GMT
>As such, I've decided switching to PAYG is the only option open to me.
>I'm tempted by the T-Mobile web and walk plans but I see the £7.50
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>Any other ideas? I'm open to any suggestions!

I suggest T-mobile PAYG. The GPRS/3G looks quite expensive at £7.50
per MB, but the cost is capped at £1 per day.

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Iain
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David Hearn - 17 Nov 2006 11:50 GMT
>> As such, I've decided switching to PAYG is the only option open to me.
>> I'm tempted by the T-Mobile web and walk plans but I see the £7.50
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> I suggest T-mobile PAYG. The GPRS/3G looks quite expensive at £7.50
> per MB, but the cost is capped at £1 per day.

At £7.50 per MB, that £1 equates to 133kB download.  So, if you use
133kb every day, that'll be £31 per month then (for a 31 day month).
Not cheap for frequent users compared to some of their contract data rates.

D
Dave C - 17 Nov 2006 12:54 GMT
>> I suggest T-mobile PAYG. The GPRS/3G looks quite expensive at £7.50
>> per MB, but the cost is capped at £1 per day.
>
> At £7.50 per MB, that £1 equates to 133kB download.  So, if you use
> 133kb every day, that'll be £31 per month then (for a 31 day month). Not
> cheap for frequent users compared to some of their contract data rates.

No the maximum you pay is £1. The amount of  data is 'unlimited' but
only available via the phones browser.

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Dave C

Geoff Winkless - 17 Nov 2006 13:40 GMT
>>> I suggest T-mobile PAYG. The GPRS/3G looks quite expensive at £7.50
>>> per MB, but the cost is capped at £1 per day.
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> No the maximum you pay is £1. The amount of  data is 'unlimited' but
> only available via the phones browser.

He's suggesting that if you use 133kb (or more) a day then teh monthly
cost will be £28-£31.

Geoff
Dave C - 17 Nov 2006 15:54 GMT
>> No the maximum you pay is £1. The amount of  data is 'unlimited' but
>> only available via the phones browser.
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>
> Geoff

Thanks - I realised that just after I clicked 'send'.
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Dave C

hairydog@despammed.com - 27 Nov 2006 23:34 GMT
>The amount of  data is 'unlimited' but
>only available via the phones browser

Allegedly.

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Iain
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http://www.hairydog.co.uk/cell1.html
Browse now while stocks last!

R. Mark Clayton - 17 Nov 2006 18:57 GMT
> I'm currently using a Hermes/tytn clone on the Orange network with my
> old 1990's SIM card on a Virgin OVP tariff. My phone bills are rarely
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Lee.

Get a twin SIM unit for whatever phone you fancy.
 
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