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Cellular Phone Forum / Country Specific / UK Group / October 2003ChildLocate
We have just launched a new service, ChildLocate; this service enables parents to locate their children's mobile phones anywhere in the UK. For further information to www.childlocate.co.uk > We have just launched a new service, ChildLocate; this service enables > parents to locate their children's mobile phones anywhere in the UK. > For further information to www.childlocate.co.uk Aside from this being a non-advertising group , can I just pass comment on this bit of your website "The service cost only £9.99 per month per family which includes a monthly allowance of 10 location requests and 10 short text messages you can send from a website to your childs mobile phone." HOW MUCH??!?!?!?!?!  SignatureAlex "I laugh in the face of danger" "Then I hide until it goes away" www.drzoidberg.co.uk >> We have just launched a new service, ChildLocate; this service enables >> parents to locate their children's mobile phones anywhere in the UK. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >allowance of 10 location requests and 10 short text messages you can send >from a website to your childs mobile phone." Am I missing something here? If you want to know where they are, why not just, like...... phone them? Or send a text? Brian >Am I missing something here? If you want to know where they are, why >not just, like...... phone them? Or send a text? Because they could lie to you... The big problem I have with it, is that it's perfectly possible (if not easy) to initiate the spying on the child without their consent or even access to the phone, and it's only if they understand and can use the presumed credits to opt out of the system. The enabling seems to rely on the customer sending a unique code which they recieve on their phone from the childs, this falls down due to the ridiculous ease in faking SMS FROM addresses. Jim. > The enabling seems to rely on the customer sending a unique code which > they recieve on their phone from the childs, this falls down due to > the ridiculous ease in faking SMS FROM addresses. Don`t even think about it. The scheme is a "get rich quick" idea. You think they are bothered about the security implications etc... I don`t. MJ >> The enabling seems to rely on the customer sending a unique code which >> they recieve on their phone from the childs, this falls down due to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >The scheme is a "get rich quick" idea. You think they are bothered about the >security implications etc... I don`t. No, I know they're not but the networks which are providing the interfaces to their location code should be - and probably are. Jim. > No, I know they're not but the networks which are providing the > interfaces to their location code should be - and probably are. Oh definitely. But the very fact that they have allowed a third party to run this service makes me wonder if they are taking the possible pitfalls seriously enough. We`ll see. MJ > We have just launched a new service, ChildLocate; this service enables > parents to locate their children's mobile phones anywhere in the UK. > For further information to www.childlocate.co.uk "The location is accurate from 50-500 meters in urban areas but less in rural areas." I don't think that's quite what you meant. SignatureTony > > We have just launched a new service, ChildLocate; this service enables > > parents to locate their children's mobile phones anywhere in the UK. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I don't think that's quite what you meant. The accuracy is determined by the size of the cell and the rule of thumb is that the higher number mobile users in an area the smaller the cell is and hence higher accuracy. >>>We have just launched a new service, ChildLocate; this service enables >>>parents to locate their children's mobile phones anywhere in the UK. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > thumb is that the higher number mobile users in an area the smaller > the cell is and hence higher accuracy. Exactly. Whch is the opposite to what you said. You mean "The location is accurate from 50-500 meters in urban areas but ACCURACY IS less in rural areas." Saying "50-500m in urban areas but less in rural areas" implies a smaller distance, not a smaller accuracy. SignatureTony > >>>We have just launched a new service, ChildLocate; this service enables > >>>parents to locate their children's mobile phones anywhere in the UK. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Saying "50-500m in urban areas but less in rural areas" implies a > smaller distance, not a smaller accuracy. The accuracy is less in rural areas than urban. > We have just launched a new service, ChildLocate; this service enables > parents to locate their children's mobile phones anywhere in the UK. If they've got a mobile they're a target for mugging. If they're kidnapped they're kidnapped. When I were a lad, 10p, memorising my home phone number, and having the say no to strangers song drilled into me at school did the trick. Although the cost has doubled to 20p, it's probably still the most effective thing. >> We have just launched a new service, ChildLocate; this service enables >> parents to locate their children's mobile phones anywhere in the UK. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Although the cost has doubled to 20p, it's probably still the most >effective thing. There is a new idea out in the usa, a pager like device that can be tracked for kids to carry (and also a badge one by another company) I dont know the web addresses off hand for them but I expect someone will along who knows them and post them on here. (saves your kid getting mugged for the phone) ;-) ----- sms text addict? www.smstextaddict.co.uk ----- > >> We have just launched a new service, ChildLocate; this service enables > >> parents to locate their children's mobile phones anywhere in the UK. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > sms text addict? www.smstextaddict.co.uk > ----- The pager device uses GPS satelite positioning for location but the problem is that GPS doesn't work indors. You need almost clear sight to the 3 satilites necessary to provide location. The device costs $199 and monthly tarriff starts at $20 per month. www.wherifywireless.com. >You need almost clear sight >to the 3 satilites necessary to provide location. You need clear sight of four to get a decent fix. 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