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A better voicemail notification on Vodafone.

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zoara - 10 Oct 2003 15:04 GMT
I can't stand the Vodafone voicemail notification that keeps ringing you
back, so I've changed it to send me a text instead. The text very
cleverly tells me to call a number that doesn't exist, but no matter; I
delete the text then hold down 1.

But I recently discovered that on (some? all?) networks other than
Vodafone, when you get a voicemail the phone (Nokia, Sony Ericsson,
others?) displays a little icon that looks like reel-to-reel tape.

This is far more elagant than a text message with incorrect information
in it. Can I get this to work on the Vodafone network?

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Mark Carver - 10 Oct 2003 15:09 GMT
> I can't stand the Vodafone voicemail notification that keeps ringing
> you back, so I've changed it to send me a text instead. The text very
> cleverly tells me to call a number that doesn't exist,

That number should work, it ought to take you through to your voicemail
account.
To retrieve your messages etc, you need to enter your PIN when it answers.

> I delete the text then hold down 1.

Which dials 121. Fine, unless you're abroad on a non- Vodafone owned
network.
Then you have to use the full Voicemail number.
Tony Walton - 10 Oct 2003 15:42 GMT
> But I recently discovered that on (some? all?)

two

> networks other than
> Vodafone, when you get a voicemail the phone (Nokia, Sony Ericsson,
> others?) displays a little icon that looks like reel-to-reel tape.
>
> This is far more elagant than a text message with incorrect information
> in it. Can I get this to work on the Vodafone network?

No.  T-Mobile and Orange support it, O2 and Voda don't.

JOOI what's this "incorrect phone number" you're talking about?
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zoara - 21 Oct 2003 14:19 GMT
> JOOI what's this "incorrect phone number" you're talking about?

I wuz wrong. :(

The number's perfectly correct, it's just me that isn't.

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zoara reckoned that:
> I can't stand the Vodafone voicemail notification that keeps ringing you
> back, so I've changed it to send me a text instead. The text very
> cleverly tells me to call a number that doesn't exist, but no matter; I
> delete the text then hold down 1.

That number is your full voicemail number.

> But I recently discovered that on (some? all?) networks other than
> Vodafone, when you get a voicemail the phone (Nokia, Sony Ericsson,
> others?) displays a little icon that looks like reel-to-reel tape.

Network-dependant.

> This is far more elagant than a text message with incorrect information
> in it. Can I get this to work on the Vodafone network?

No, only Orange and T-Mobile support this.
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Doug Weller - 12 Oct 2003 08:46 GMT
>zoara reckoned that:
>> I can't stand the Vodafone voicemail notification that keeps ringing you
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>No, only Orange and T-Mobile support this.

This is an historical thing.  Orange and T-Mobile are PCN networks with
slightly different specifications (yes, they are GSM but a later licensing
round).  They more or less limit their handsets to handsets that support
the spool symbol.

Vodafone is considering supporting the symbol but is worried about the
effect of this on customers still using old phones that do not support it.

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mark - 19 Oct 2003 23:56 GMT
>Vodafone is considering supporting the symbol but is worried about the
>effect of this on customers still using old phones that do not support it.

We've just had to switch to voda from orange because the site we are on
at the moment can't get Orange. I find the awkwardness of Voda's
voicemail, the lack of an easy minutes remaining check and voice mail
icon enough to make me revert back to orange as soon as we are finished
on this site.
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zoara - 21 Oct 2003 14:19 GMT
> zoara reckoned that:
> > I can't stand the Vodafone voicemail notification that keeps ringing you
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> That number is your full voicemail number.

Bugger me, so it is. I'm sure when I first got those texts I checked and
it didn't work.

> > But I recently discovered that on (some? all?) networks other than
> > Vodafone, when you get a voicemail the phone (Nokia, Sony Ericsson,
> > others?) displays a little icon that looks like reel-to-reel tape.
>
> Network-dependant.

Right, thought so.

> > This is far more elagant than a text message with incorrect information
> > in it. Can I get this to work on the Vodafone network?
>
> No, only Orange and T-Mobile support this.

Arse. Cos that makes far more sense to me than a text message that I
have to read and (forget to) delete.

Oh well....

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Dan - 21 Oct 2003 14:31 GMT
>>No, only Orange and T-Mobile support this.
> Arse. Cos that makes far more sense to me than a text message that I
> have to read and (forget to) delete.

It was an addition to standard GSM called PCS that was developed for
1800-band networks (i.e. T-Mobile and Orange in the UK).

Although nowadays practically all phones understand it and any 900 band
network could add the spool icon as a notification option along with a
text or a call if they really wanted to.
zoara - 22 Oct 2003 13:52 GMT
> > zoara reckoned that:
> > > I can't stand the Vodafone voicemail notification that keeps ringing you
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Bugger me, so it is. I'm sure when I first got those texts I checked and
> it didn't work.

Actually, maybe it didn't. I tried it again this morning and got through
to... myself. I didn't really want to leave a message for me, I wanted
to check my voicemail.

Oddness.

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Webmaster - 23 Oct 2003 00:03 GMT
zoara reckoned that:
> Actually, maybe it didn't. I tried it again this morning and got through
> to... myself. I didn't really want to leave a message for me, I wanted
> to check my voicemail.

You didn't get through to yourself, you got through to your voicemail box,
which kicks off with your greeting "this is the vodafone voicemail service
for 07xxx xxxxxx" or your own custom one.

You naturally think it was yourself, because you were expecting to hear an
engaged tone.

Dial the number from your landline and see for yourself. Your mobile will
not ring.
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zoara - 25 Oct 2003 11:30 GMT
> zoara reckoned that:
> > Actually, maybe it didn't. I tried it again this morning and got through
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> which kicks off with your greeting "this is the vodafone voicemail service
> for 07xxx xxxxxx" or your own custom one.

Okay.

I get two different behaviours, seemingly randomly.

1. I get through to my voicemail as 'owner'; I am told I have 'x' new
messages, and can listen to them.
2. I get through to my voicemail as 'guest'; I get told my own mobile
number and am asked to leave a message.

Actually, saying that, I can't get behaviour 1 at all now. Obviously,
behaviour 2 is of no use to me. So why am I getting it?

> You naturally think it was yourself, because you were expecting to hear an
> engaged tone.

Huh? I wasn't expecting an engaged tone. I don't know what you mean. I
was expecting to check my voicemail.

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Webmaster - 25 Oct 2003 18:54 GMT
zoara reckoned that:
> I get two different behaviours, seemingly randomly.
>
> 1. I get through to my voicemail as 'owner'; I am told I have 'x' new
> messages, and can listen to them.

Dialling from your mobile you would get this.

> 2. I get through to my voicemail as 'guest'; I get told my own mobile
> number and am asked to leave a message.

Dialling from a number other than your mobile would acheive this.

> > You naturally think it was yourself, because you were expecting to hear an
> > engaged tone.

> Huh? I wasn't expecting an engaged tone. I don't know what you mean. I
> was expecting to check my voicemail.

I dodn't mean engaged tone either, sorry. If you dial your own mobile
number from your mobile, your incoming call will be diverted to wherever
your divert on busy is set to, ie your voicemailbox number, where you will
be invited to leave a message.

The only way to check your voicemail by dialling your actual voicemail
numbe is if you have set up a remote access PIN number. Before pan-European
integration you used to have to do this when roaming.
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zoara - 26 Oct 2003 13:36 GMT
> zoara reckoned that:
> > I get two different behaviours, seemingly randomly.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Dialling from your mobile you would get this.

Yes.

> > 2. I get through to my voicemail as 'guest'; I get told my own mobile
> > number and am asked to leave a message.
>
> Dialling from a number other than your mobile would acheive this.

Except I get it by dialling from my mobile. I have never dialled that
number from a landline, and yet I get that behaviour 99% of the time.
I'm not even sure I really got the first behaviour at all now, as I
can't recreate it.

> > > You naturally think it was yourself, because you were expecting to hear an
> > > engaged tone.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> your divert on busy is set to, ie your voicemailbox number, where you will
> be invited to leave a message.

Ah yes. That's obvious, I think?

> The only way to check your voicemail by dialling your actual voicemail
> numbe is if you have set up a remote access PIN number. Before pan-European
> integration you used to have to do this when roaming.

That contradicts the very first comment you made. Do you mean "the only
way to check your voicemail *** from a landline *** by dialling
your..."?

I *should* be able to check my own voicemail, by dialling that number
*from my mobile*, right? And I can't. Should I call vodafone to fix
their system (my voicemail is playing up in other ways as well) or does
the fault lie elsewhere?

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Webmaster - 27 Oct 2003 08:22 GMT
zoara reckoned that:
> I *should* be able to check my own voicemail, by dialling that number
> *from my mobile*, right?

No. Not unless you have set up a remote access PIN and when Vodafone-woman
is saying "This is the vodafone voicemail for 07xxx etc" you press the star
key to interrupt the greeting and enter you remote access PIN (default is
3333 IIRC)

> And I can't. Should I call vodafone to fix
> their system (my voicemail is playing up in other ways as well) or does
> the fault lie elsewhere?

Not a fault, it's working just fine :)

Set up a PIN number, then try it. Dial your voicemailbox number from a
landline and press * when vodafone-woman is talking.

If you don't interrupt the greeting you will then be able to leave a
message.
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