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Orange SIM registration paradox

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Graham - 16 Dec 2006 17:05 GMT
I have purchased an Orange SIM and have given the call-centre the SIM number
and the IMEI of the handset I have put it in.

What intrigues me, is how my phone is going to pick-up
the SMS messages that activate the SIM?

What is it "listening" to at present, given that the phone isn't registered
on any
network?

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Chris Boyd - 16 Dec 2006 17:39 GMT
> I have purchased an Orange SIM and have given the call-centre the SIM number
> and the IMEI of the handset I have put it in.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> registered on any
> network?

Nothing, if the phone has no network, it has no network.  It doesn't
keep trying to connect.

Turn the phone off and back on.  By the time you've done this, the SIM
will have the 'ok' to log onto the network, and receive the SIM update
messages.

Chris
Graham - 16 Dec 2006 21:51 GMT
>> I have purchased an Orange SIM and have given the call-centre the SIM
>> number
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Chris

Ah that makes sense, and of course, it worked.
The guy definitely said to wait for the messages, then switch the phone off
and on.
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Jonathan Morris - 17 Dec 2006 22:04 GMT
> The guy definitely said to wait for the messages, then switch the phone off
> and on.

The phone would periodically try to re-register, prompting the delivery
of the SMS. If you weren't looking, it would seem as if the text
arrived to activate the phone.

Still, I'm sure OCS still tell you to charge your battery for 16 hours
before turning the phone on!

Jonathan
Ivor Jones - 17 Dec 2006 22:11 GMT
> > The guy definitely said to wait for the messages, then
> > switch the phone off and on.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Still, I'm sure OCS still tell you to charge your battery
> for 16 hours before turning the phone on!

Which is still good advice for the first couple of charges. I have
batteries 6 years old that are still going strong on my 6310i.

Ivor
Graham - 18 Dec 2006 19:45 GMT
>> > The guy definitely said to wait for the messages, then
>> > switch the phone off and on.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Ivor

This is a Nokia 3410 that I have resurrected for my son after being
in a drawer for a year (the phone, not my son).

Initially it was reluctant to take a charge and it sometimes said
"re-connect charger" in the display, a message I don't recall seeing
when the phone was new.
Anyway I persevered, and cycled the battery a few times and
now it seems fine.

The SIM came from a local market stall, GBP7.95 for  an Orange
SIM with GBP10 of credit. The credit turned out to be an EPOS
genarated voucher from CPW. What he didn't tell me is that
once registered, the SIM has a pound of short-term credit so that
was GBP11 worth of credit for GBP7.95 plus a free SIM.

I thought that was a good deal.

Graham.
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Chris Boyd - 18 Dec 2006 22:11 GMT
>> The guy definitely said to wait for the messages, then switch the phone off
>> and on.
>
> The phone would periodically try to re-register, prompting the delivery
> of the SMS. If you weren't looking, it would seem as if the text
> arrived to activate the phone.

Incorrect actually, as discussed here a few months ago (on the topic
with the phone for the child with an inactive SIM IIRC) the phone tries
to register once at start-up and then no more.

You need to restart the phone to remove the 'inactive SIM' message and
prompt the network registration and SIM updates.

Chris
Jon - 19 Dec 2006 20:04 GMT
me@privacy.com declared for all the world to hear...
> I have purchased an Orange SIM and have given the call-centre the SIM number
> and the IMEI of the handset I have put it in.
>
> What intrigues me, is how my phone is going to pick-up
> the SMS messages that activate the SIM?

The same way any other SMS message is received.

> What is it "listening" to at present, given that the phone isn't registered
> on any
> network?

By the time you have finished registering, switch the phone of and back
on again it will attempt to register on the network, and this time it
will work.
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Jon

 
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