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Cellular Phone Forum / Country Specific / UK Group / October 2003stuck on .wav ringtones on GX20
I want to use .wav files as rigntones, alerts, etc. on my GX20. I can record the wavs no problem, download them, copy them across from my pc. BUT no matter what I do it always says "Illegal Data" instead of playing the sound. The manual says nothing about it. Cant find any answer on the web either. Do I need to use a specific format (sample-rate, mono/stereo, etc) or am I doing something else wrong? Please help.? Thanks! Owen > I want to use .wav files as rigntones, alerts, etc. on my GX20. I can > record the wavs no problem, download them, copy them across from my pc. BUT [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Thanks! > Owen should be midi files methinks.......... > should be midi files methinks.......... No, it also supports WAV according to the specs. >I want to use .wav files as rigntones, alerts, etc. on my GX20. That's a pity, because you can't. You can't use .bmp files as tuning forks either. Mobile ring tones are almost all in some form of midi, which is a list of notes to play, whereas a .wav file is a sound recording.  SignatureIain the out-of-date hairydog guide to mobile phones http://www.hairydog.co.uk/cell1.html Browse now while stocks last! > >I want to use .wav files as rigntones, alerts, etc. on my GX20. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Mobile ring tones are almost all in some form of midi, which is a list > of notes to play, whereas a .wav file is a sound recording. Ok then smartass, tell me why on page 92 of the user manual it clearly states that you can use the following formats: (and I quote): " SWAF - Sound file in SMAF format Original ringtone (composed in melody editor) MIDI - Soundfile in standard MIDI format IMV - Soundfile in iMelody format WAV - Soundfile in WAVE format AMR - Soundfile in AMR format " And i think you'll find earlier models (GX10i) also supported WAV. Not to mention other phones (Sony J5e) that use recorded sounds (NOT midi) as ring tones. Check your facts. Owen >Ok then smartass, tell me why on page 92 of the user manual it clearly >states that you can use the following formats: Sorry, seems that this is one of the few phones that is different (Nokia Cardphone is another). I hope you enjoy trying to make it work However, you're not smartass enough to get it to work? What a pity! I have no need to "check my facts" - I have no interest in ringtomes at all. Iain SignatureIain the out-of-date hairydog guide to mobile phones http://www.hairydog.co.uk/cell1.html Browse now while stocks last! > >Ok then smartass, tell me why on page 92 of the user manual it clearly > >states that you can use the following formats: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I hope you enjoy trying to make it work Thanks but I dont think I will enjoy that. > However, you're not smartass enough to get it to work? What a pity! You're right. I'm not a smartass. > I have no need to "check my facts" - I have no interest in ringtomes > at all. You should always check your facts before making smartass remarks like "you cant use .bmp files as tuning forks". Otherwise you look a total prick. Owen >You should always check your facts before making smartass remarks like "you >cant use .bmp files as tuning forks". > >Otherwise you look a total prick. Better than sounding like an offensive twat. Did anyone offer to help you with your little problem, by the way? SignatureIain the out-of-date hairydog guide to mobile phones http://www.hairydog.co.uk/cell1.html Browse now while stocks last! > >You should always check your facts before making smartass remarks like "you > >cant use .bmp files as tuning forks". > > > >Otherwise you look a total prick. > > Better than sounding like an offensive twat. Only an offensive twat would answer a question with a wrong answer whislt simultaneously claiming to have no interest in the subject. I asked an honest question. Your answer was not only completely WRONG, it was patronising and INSULTING. (bmp files as pitchforks indeed). If you don't know the answer (which you clearly don't), and you have no interest in the subject (which you say you don't), then just shut the f.ck up. Owen > I asked an honest question. Your answer was not only completely WRONG, it > was patronising and INSULTING. (bmp files as pitchforks indeed). If you > don't know the answer (which you clearly don't), and you have no interest in > the subject (which you say you don't), then just shut the f.ck up. > > Owen One of the few times, maybe the only time I've seen justified abuse on Usenet. Well done. >> I asked an honest question. Your answer was not only completely WRONG, it >> was patronising and INSULTING. (bmp files as pitchforks indeed). If you [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Usenet. >Well done. Agreed - I do wish the dog would update his webshite instead of wasting time with his pointless posts here. SignatureHiram Hackenbacker >Agreed - I do wish the dog would update his webshite instead of >wasting time with his pointless posts here. Very kind of you to offer to write an updated version for everyone to read. I hope that you will be able to finish it soon. SignatureIain the out-of-date hairydog guide to mobile phones http://www.hairydog.co.uk/cell1.html Browse now while stocks last! >Only an offensive twat would answer a question with a wrong answer I don't think my answer was necessarily wrong. I am waiting to hear from someone who has been able to use a wav file on that model of handset. If I do, I am happy to admit to being wrong. >whislt >simultaneously claiming to have no interest in the subject. There are lots of things I know about that I have no interest in, and do not ever intend to research further. I spend several months typesetting and copyfitting a trolleybus magazine, so I know quite a bit about trolleybuses. A subject I have absolutely no interest in whatsoever. > INSULTING. (bmp files as pitchforks indeed). Well, the reason I gave that example is that we have been using bmp files as tuning forks - to a.ses pitch from a waveform overlaid on a bmp background. In retrospect, "pitchfork" does sound a little agricultural: not the thing I had in mind at the time. BTW, it was a failure: the oscilloscope display moves around too much to assess tuning. SignatureIain the out-of-date hairydog guide to mobile phones http://www.hairydog.co.uk/cell1.html Browse now while stocks last! > > >I want to use .wav files as rigntones, alerts, etc. on my GX20. > > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Owen I had a Sony J70 (successor to the J5e, I believe), and I'm fairly certain it could't use WAV files as ringtones. It did have a facility that allowed you to record your own ringtone using the microphone, but there didn't appear to be any software (at least, none that I knew of) that allowed you to upload a WAV file to it. I know that the Samsung SGH-T100 (the phone I have now, before my shiny new pre-ordered Panasonic X70 arrives in the post next week hopefully [or whenever it's released, at least!]) can be made to play WAV files as ringtones, but I'm not sure exaclty how it's done. Somehow the WAV file is transposed over a MIDI track, which is then converted into a MMF file, and it works.... but I've not done it myself, only seen files already created by other people. Signatureø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Please reply to the group Replies to this address will bounce! ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,,,,ø¤º°`°º¤ø >I had a Sony J70 (successor to the J5e, I believe), and I'm fairly certain >it could't use WAV files as ringtones. Yes, I have a J70, and although it can record ringtones through the microphone, it cannot accept wav files from elsewhere. I was amazed to be told that its predecessor can, but the OP obviously is an expert on the subject, ever though he is wrong. SignatureIain the out-of-date hairydog guide to mobile phones http://www.hairydog.co.uk/cell1.html Browse now while stocks last! > >I had a Sony J70 (successor to the J5e, I believe), and I'm fairly certain > >it could't use WAV files as ringtones. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > be told that its predecessor can, but the OP obviously is an expert on > the subject, ever though he is wrong. I never said the J5e could accept WAV files. I said it used recorded sounds (as opposed to MIDI). " Not to mention other phones (Sony J5e) that use recorded sounds (NOT midi) as ring tones. " Reading is fundamental. Owen >I never said the J5e could accept WAV files. I said it used recorded sounds >(as opposed to MIDI). [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Reading is fundamental. I am replying to your query that read: > >I want to use .wav files as rigntones, alerts, etc. on my GX20. Seems to me that you explicitly mentioned .wav files SignatureIain the out-of-date hairydog guide to mobile phones http://www.hairydog.co.uk/cell1.html Browse now while stocks last! > >I never said the J5e could accept WAV files. I said it used recorded sounds > >(as opposed to MIDI). [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Seems to me that you explicitly mentioned .wav files Oh for f.cks sake. YES I mentioned wav files - if you want another example try the subject line of this thread. What's your point? I was replying to your statement below: > > Yes, I have a J70, and although it can record ringtones through the > > microphone, it cannot accept wav files from elsewhere. *I was amazed to > > be told that its predecessor can, but the OP obviously is an expert on > > the subject, ever though he is wrong.* I never said that "its predecessor can". And I never claimed to be an "expert on the subject", if I thought myself an expert do you think I'd have posted a question asking how to do something? You're making such a dick of yourself, I'd stop now if I were you. Owen I have just been given a Motorola C350 for my birthday. Has anyone any views (pros and cons) about this phone. Thanks. pjt. > I want to use .wav files as rigntones, alerts, etc. on my GX20. I can > record the wavs no problem, download them, copy them across from my pc. BUT [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Thanks! > Owen you can have WAV sounds, but not as ringtones. If you want a WAv as a ringtone, you will have to convert it to a SMAF file. Download "WSC-MA2-SMAF (Ring Voice)" from http://smaf-yamaha.com/tools/downloads.html The WAV that you are converting to SMAF with this program must be 16 bit mono, so convert with sound recorder if you have to. and then transfer to the phone. I think thats it. Ed. > you can have WAV sounds, but not as ringtones. > If you want a WAv as a ringtone, you will have to convert it to a SMAF file. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > I think thats it. Finally... a constructive and helpful answer! Just what I needed... Thanks Ed. :o) Owen |
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