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When will 3 customers stop being able to roam on o2?

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fgfgbgbg@googlemail.com - 30 Jan 2007 17:12 GMT
When will 3 customers stop being able to roam on o2? It seems all
customers can roam on both Orange and o2 at the moment? As good as
this is, surely it will stop soon.
Steve Terry - 30 Jan 2007 17:17 GMT
> When will 3 customers stop being able to roam on o2? It seems all
> customers can roam on both Orange and o2 at the moment? As good as
> this is, surely it will stop soon.

Is that right? i'm on 3 with O2 2g roaming, are you saying i can manually
select Orange 2g roaming??

Steve Terry
Simon C - 30 Jan 2007 17:44 GMT
>> When will 3 customers stop being able to roam on o2? It seems all
>> customers can roam on both Orange and o2 at the moment? As good as
>> this is, surely it will stop soon.
>>
> Is that right? i'm on 3 with O2 2g roaming, are you saying i can manually
> select Orange 2g roaming??

I think it should be automatically selecting Orange 2g roaming already - 3
are switching from O2 to Orange as provider of their 2g 'fallback', and
during the transition I think they are using both.  Do you have any reason
to think it isn't using Orange 2g at the moment?  I thought the phones still
referred to the network as 3 - even when 2g roaming on O2 (or now Orange)?
If so I would have thought it would be tricky to know whether it was using
Orange or O2 if it describes them both as 3 anyway.  It's been a while since
I had a 3 phone myself though so my memory could be hazy - and I'm just
going by what I'd read Re: the O2 > Orange switchover.
{{{{{Welcome}}}}} - 30 Jan 2007 17:48 GMT
Thus spaketh Simon C:

>>> When will 3 customers stop being able to roam on o2? It seems all
>>> customers can roam on both Orange and o2 at the moment? As good as
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> a 3 phone myself though so my memory could be hazy - and I'm just
> going by what I'd read Re: the O2 > Orange switchover.

When I check the available networks, I get listed:

3
3
T-Mobile
Vodafone
Orange

I take it the 2nd 3 is O2 roaming.  Maybe when Orange roaming is enabled
Orange will disappear from the list and be listed as 3 with the others.

Selecting Orange is ignored.

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Steve Terry - 30 Jan 2007 17:51 GMT
>>> When will 3 customers stop being able to roam on o2? It seems all
>>> customers can roam on both Orange and o2 at the moment? As good as
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> during the transition I think they are using both.  Do you have any reason
> to think it isn't using Orange 2g at the moment?
Yes my Orange coverage here is lousy, i'm in a valley and only O2
has anything like a solid signal, Orange is poor, Voda worse,
and T Mobile... what's that?

Also I get a lot of tri tones at peak times, this town only has one O2 BTS
two Orange, two Voda, one T Mobile, and three 3.

If I was getting an Orange 2g BTS i would expect better capacity.

Steve Terry
Jim GM4DHJ - 30 Jan 2007 17:59 GMT
> Yes my Orange coverage here is lousy, i'm in a valley and only O2
> has anything like a solid signal, Orange is poor, Voda worse,
> and T Mobile... what's that?

tee hee .......
Steve Terry - 30 Jan 2007 18:06 GMT
>> Yes my Orange coverage here is lousy, i'm in a valley and only O2
>> has anything like a solid signal, Orange is poor, Voda worse,
>> and T Mobile... what's that?
>
> tee hee .......
Of course outside this valley all networks including 3 are solid

Says a lot when T Mobile provide only one 1800MHz BTS
for a town of 22,000 people.

Steve Terry
Jon - 30 Jan 2007 19:27 GMT
g4wwk@tesco.net declared for all the world to hear...

> > When will 3 customers stop being able to roam on o2? It seems all
> > customers can roam on both Orange and o2 at the moment? As good as
> > this is, surely it will stop soon.
> >
> Is that right? i'm on 3 with O2 2g roaming, are you saying i can manually
> select Orange 2g roaming??

It depends when you connected. Eventually all 3 SIMs will roam onto
Orange when out of coverage.
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Neil - Usenet - 30 Jan 2007 20:06 GMT
>> When will 3 customers stop being able to roam on o2? It seems all
>> customers can roam on both Orange and o2 at the moment? As good as
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Steve Terry

yes
Usenet User - 30 Jan 2007 18:03 GMT
> When will 3 customers stop being able to roam on o2? It seems all
> customers can roam on both Orange and o2 at the moment? As good as
> this is, surely it will stop soon.

Right now, I understand that no 3 customers can roam as yet on
Orange.  But, you are right, during the transition, blocks of
customers will be enabled for Orange -- the phones are supposed to
select 3 3G first, then Orange and failing that O2.

Once the transition from O2 is completed, obviously the O2 access will
be disabled.

Timescales -- supposed to be completed by the end of Q3.
Steve Terry - 30 Jan 2007 18:08 GMT
>> When will 3 customers stop being able to roam on o2? It seems all
>> customers can roam on both Orange and o2 at the moment? As good as
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> be disabled.
> Timescales -- supposed to be completed by the end of Q3.

and what about existing 3 customers who have O2,
but no Orange coverage?

Steve Terry
{{{{{Welcome}}}}} - 30 Jan 2007 18:16 GMT
Thus spaketh Steve Terry:

>>> When will 3 customers stop being able to roam on o2? It seems all
>>> customers can roam on both Orange and o2 at the moment? As good as
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Steve Terry

Stuffed.
Usenet User - 30 Jan 2007 18:29 GMT
> >> When will 3 customers stop being able to roam on o2? It seems all
> >> customers can roam on both Orange and o2 at the moment? As good as
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Steve Terry

When the relationship between 3 and O2 terminates, before the year's
out, possibly sooner -- you won't get O2 access any more.
Steve Terry - 30 Jan 2007 18:34 GMT
>> fgfgb...@googlemail.com wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> When the relationship between 3 and O2 terminates, before the year's
> out, possibly sooner -- you won't get O2 access any more.

Sounds like that will be when i'll be looking for another O2 contract then.
Or Orange or Voda build another BTS here (some hope)

Steve Terry
andy - 31 Jan 2007 03:05 GMT
> fgfgb...@googlemail.com wrote:
> > When will 3 customers stop being able to roam on o2? It seems all
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Timescales -- supposed to be completed by the end of Q3.

search result here -

2g 3
3g T-mobile
2g/3g Orange
2g Vodafone

sometimes Orange is second, but interesting that T-mobile 3g is much
better here  than their almost unusable 2g.

I'd been wondering about getting 3's clamped down menu settings undone
in this phone (N 7600), hoping that would identify O2 and Orange by
their own names, as I even wondered for a bit if it was on Orange and
was wrongly implying O2, because ...

3 CS absolutely insisted my phone is already on Orange, hence my
confusion at the above, and that it won't register on Orange. I think
your post explains it a lot better than they did. Presumably my phone
will then show O2 and not Orange, or should I take it to the shop to
be zapped anyway?

It rather undermines my confidence in what they told me about roaming
abroad - I asked would the phone auto-range on to say Wind 2g but
still say 3, hence incurring roaming fees - they said it will be shown
separately

ps it's on payg, unused for a year until the launch of 3 Like Home
free roaming and then ReturnCall from Finarea; I reckon the callback
adding to WePay should double the top-up value, but it depends what
the long-term RC tariffs will be
Steve Terry - 31 Jan 2007 13:58 GMT
>> fgfgb...@googlemail.com wrote:
<snip>
> It rather undermines my confidence in what they told me about roaming
> abroad - I asked would the phone auto-range on to say Wind 2g but
> still say 3, hence incurring roaming fees - they said it will be shown
> separately

When roaming abroad, switch to manual network selection,
and select the local network you want to use.

Otherwise it will auto roam on a 3 preferred network from
the roaming list Sim updated from 3.

IMHO it's a good idea to delete all preferred roaming lists

Steve Terry
ACDeag - 30 Jan 2007 19:21 GMT
After serious thinking fgfgbgbg@googlemail.com wrote :
> When will 3 customers stop being able to roam on o2? It seems all
> customers can roam on both Orange and o2 at the moment? As good as
> this is, surely it will stop soon.

I am still not roaming on Orange.
Unimobiles.com - 31 Jan 2007 08:09 GMT
>When will 3 customers stop being able to roam on o2? It seems all
>customers can roam on both Orange and o2 at the moment? As good as
>this is, surely it will stop soon.

When you loose your 2g reception, you know the switchover has taken
place ;)

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ACDeag - 31 Jan 2007 23:27 GMT
fgfgbgbg@googlemail.com formulated the question :
> When will 3 customers stop being able to roam on o2? It seems all
> customers can roam on both Orange and o2 at the moment? As good as
> this is, surely it will stop soon.

This is the bit from 3's press release last May, I still find the
wording confusing as it implies that existing customers will always be
able to roam on O2 as a last resort.

Quote:
3 customers will continue to roam on O2, the current provider of
national roaming to 3, until the transition phase commences in late
2006. Following the transition phase existing customers' handsets will
select the Orange network in preference to O2, although they will still
be able to roam onto O2. Going forward into 2007 all new customers will
only roam onto the Orange network.
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