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Cellular Phone Forum / Country Specific / UK Group / November 2007N95 on Orange - does the WLAN work ok?
Have they disabled this (WLAN) just to prevent VOIP? Seem to keep gettin the dreaded Gatway error Does anyone with an Orange N95 mangage to connect to the net via WLAN > Have they disabled this (WLAN) just to prevent VOIP? > > Seem to keep gettin the dreaded Gatway error > > Does anyone with an Orange N95 mangage to connect to the net via WLAN Yep - all fine. But then I reflashed to generic Nokia software (v 12 at the moment). I think it was OK with the orange customised software though. Tony dmrt46@nospam.com declared for all the world to hear... > Have they disabled this (WLAN) just to prevent VOIP? No, the wlan works just fine. > Does anyone with an Orange N95 mangage to connect to the net via WLAN I have done, as have a couple of my colleagues who own one.  SignatureRegards Jon >dmrt46@nospam.com declared for all the world to hear... >> Have they disabled this (WLAN) just to prevent VOIP? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >I have done, as have a couple of my colleagues who own one. Does this mean that the N95 returns to its standard form so that the voip software works along with any other features that Orange has disabled? I have considerd an N95 but wouldn't in my wildest dreams get one from a company that has disabled the very functions that I am buying it for. Unless one is stupid one doesn't spend good money on an item that doesn't do what it is supposed to do so Orange has been a no go area for me in regard to the N95. --- Remove 'no_spam_' from email address. --- >>dmrt46@nospam.com declared for all the world to hear... >>> Have they disabled this (WLAN) just to prevent VOIP? [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Remove 'no_spam_' from email address. > --- Hi there, I too have an Orange N95. I removed all the orange software from it and restored it back to the generic software. I cant exactly remember which programs were removed but now I can use voip via truphone. The firmware updates the phone to the latest version. v12.0.013. (that's what I have) but the latest v20 out for testing. So wont be long until all n95 unbranded users will be using that. When you use nokias own firmware and updates, you'll find much more software options as to orange limited options. I've been using mine since Orange started shipping them and I haven't had much problems... I use the camera a lot for video and its great but I must admit its not as good as my n93. The GPS is also good thanks to the firmware update. Whats going to be a big thing this year is application developments for the nokia n95 accelerometer. I hope someone can come up with a program so I can use it with my wii. Only thing I can think off is orange line 2 may or may not work. I hope I have helped you in some way The firmware updates the phone to the latest version. v12.0.013. (that's what I have) but the latest v20 out for testing. So wont be long until all n95 unbranded users will be using that. Is this change from Orange to Generic easy? Do I just download it and install? or is it more tricky with certain cables needed and special software? Thanks > The firmware updates the phone to the latest version. v12.0.013. (that's > what I have) but the latest v20 out for testing. So wont be long until [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > cables needed and special software? > Thanks I used this guide to debrand my N95 on 3. Dead easy, using the standard cable from the box. Total time was about 30 mins, but 29 mins of that was the 113MB download to rebrand it! hth Mike >> The firmware updates the phone to the latest version. v12.0.013. (that's >> what I have) but the latest v20 out for testing. So wont be long until [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >I used this guide to debrand my N95 on 3. Dead easy, using the standard >cable from the box. Which guide? Thanks for all the comments guys. I would want to use an N95 with Voxalot. That way I can choose any carriers I wish for incoming and outgoing calls. So, for that, I want the SIP voip client to be fully operational. --- Remove 'no_spam_' from email address. --- >>> The firmware updates the phone to the latest version. v12.0.013. >>> (that's [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >>cable from the box. > Which guide? duh! This one http://www.expansys.com/ft.aspx?k=90092 hth Mike >>>> The firmware updates the phone to the latest version. v12.0.013. >>>> (that's [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >Mike Thank you for th elink Mike. 'Duh' you may but I can't see any reference to that link in this thread so, short of possessing some mystical powers, how else would I know? --- Remove 'no_spam_' from email address. --- no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com declared for all the world to hear... > Does this mean that the N95 returns to its standard form so that the > voip software works along with any other features that Orange has > disabled? The phones built-in VoIP capability and the WLAN are not in any way related. On Orange-branded Nokia N95 the in-built SIP functionality is disabled. The WLAN is not affected in any way by this. > I have considerd an N95 but wouldn't in my wildest dreams > get one from a company that has disabled the very functions that I am > buying it for. You can get 3rd party SIP clients (eg Truphone) to work without issue. The official reason it was disabled was because it was feared that customers who are not as knowledgeable as you might see "internet call" in their menu and happily dial-away without realising the data charge implications. SignatureRegards Jon > The official reason it was disabled was because it was feared that > customers who are not as knowledgeable as you might see "internet call" > in their menu and happily dial-away without realising the data charge > implications. I don't believe that for one second! France telecom are just worried about losing call revenue, so cripple the phone, and remove one of the main features! 10 out of 10 for 0-Range to think of that for a reason! no_sp@m.net declared for all the world to hear... > > The official reason it was disabled was because it was feared that > > customers who are not as knowledgeable as you might see "internet call" > > in their menu and happily dial-away without realising the data charge > > implications. > I don't believe that for one second! Believe it if you like, that was the reason cited. > France telecom are just worried about > losing call revenue, so cripple the phone, and remove one of the main > features! If people got carried away with "internet call" and generated higher bills because of data charges then more money would have made, would it not? SignatureRegards Jon > no_sp@m.net declared for all the world to hear... >>> The official reason it was disabled was because it was feared that [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Believe it if you like, that was the reason cited. And we all know that the official company line isn't dressed up with PR spin. Everything a company says is entirely true, honest and moral. >> France telecom are just worried about >> losing call revenue, so cripple the phone, and remove one of the main [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > bills because of data charges then more money would have made, would it > not? Depends if people used their WLAN or 3G Connection. sjdean@simtext.plus.com declared for all the world to hear... > Depends if people used their WLAN or 3G Connection. Peopel who dint' know what "internet call" was would probably not know what WLAN was either. SignatureRegards Jon > sjdean@simtext.plus.com declared for all the world to hear... >> Depends if people used their WLAN or 3G Connection. > > Peopel who dint' know what "internet call" was would probably not know > what WLAN was either. People who didn't know what internet call was, probably wouldn't be able to set up their connectivity details and sip server in order to be charged extortionate amounts for 3G usage. Perhaps you have some personal first hand information on people who know SIP but dont know WLAN? People who know "Internet Call" but dont know 3G and never use any other bit of the internet on their 3G phones to never have any knowledge of being charged for internet usage. It's PR spin. It's bullshit a mile off. sjdean@simtext.plus.com declared for all the world to hear... > > sjdean@simtext.plus.com declared for all the world to hear... > >> Depends if people used their WLAN or 3G Connection. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > to set up their connectivity details and sip server in order to be > charged extortionate amounts for 3G usage. That's an interesting point, I had not considered that. SignatureRegards Jon >> sjdean@simtext.plus.com declared for all the world to hear... >>> Depends if people used their WLAN or 3G Connection. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > to set up their connectivity details and sip server in order to be > charged extortionate amounts for 3G usage. A colleague asked me for help setting up his Nokia on our Asterisk server, and the guide I sent him [for the SIP client bit] contained some 20 screen shots. Signature<http://ale.cx/> (AIM:troffasky) (UnSoEsNpEaTm@ale.cx) 11:43:54 up 13 days, 22 min, 2 users, load average: 0.08, 0.12, 0.15 50,000 watts of funking power >> I don't believe that for one second! > > Believe it if you like, that was the reason cited. No I don't, not for one second! This is PR crap! >> France telecom are just worried about >> losing call revenue, so cripple the phone, and remove one of the main [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > bills because of data charges then more money would have made, would it > not? Yes, it would.... If it were to happen.............. I think *most* Orange users would work out that calls would incur data charges if not made over wifi. Then again, these same users are quite happy to pay for sms delivery reports! Skype calls made via Orange would cost the earth with O's gold plated 'Orange World' !!! Matthew no_sp@m.net declared for all the world to hear... > > If people got carried away with "internet call" and generated higher > > bills because of data charges then more money would have made, would it > > not? > Yes, it would.... If it were to happen.............. I think *most* Orange > users would work out that calls would incur data charges if not made over > wifi. I think you maybe very very wrong about that. SignatureRegards Jon > no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com declared for all the world to hear... >> Does this mean that the N95 returns to its standard form so that the [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > in their menu and happily dial-away without realising the data charge > implications. If the data charges on Orange weren't so extortionate it wouldn't be a problem. Hello, does anyone know how to uninstall Orange software from N95? It is now working like an icon bar on the desktop. I would like to have only the original Nokia applications on the phone, no wise not fully compatible orange colour extras. Thanks for any help! David ------------------------------------------------------------------------ View this thread: http://www.wirelessforums.org/showthread.php?t=32651 http://www.wirelessforums.org |
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