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tmobile and virgin payg sim question

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Chris Lewis - 25 Feb 2008 12:55 GMT
I have found a good offer on a mobile phone that I am after, unfortunately
it's only available with a tmobile payg sim. My present phone is on a virgin
payg service and I always thought that tmobile and virgin networks would
work with either a tmobile or virgin sim. But the shop says that I will need
a sim free phone if I want to use the virgin payg network.
Is this correct?
King Of Fools - 25 Feb 2008 13:10 GMT
> I have found a good offer on a mobile phone that I am after, unfortunately
> it's only available with a tmobile payg sim. My present phone is on a virgin
> payg service and I always thought that tmobile and virgin networks would
> work with either a tmobile or virgin sim. But the shop says that I will need
> a sim free phone if I want to use the virgin payg network.
> Is this correct?

Not necessarily.

A Virgin SIM will usually work in a T-Mobile phone as it is usually
locked to T-Mobile network (which Virgin currently use).
A T-Mobile SIM will usually not work in a Virgin phone as it is
usually locked to the service provider (Virgin).

So you can be fairly certain that your Virgin SIM should work in a T-
Mobile phone but not 100% certain.
Studio - 25 Feb 2008 13:13 GMT
>I have found a good offer on a mobile phone that I am after, unfortunately
>it's only available with a tmobile payg sim. My present phone is on a
>virgin payg service and I always thought that tmobile and virgin networks
>would work with either a tmobile or virgin sim. But the shop says that I
>will need a sim free phone if I want to use the virgin payg network.
> Is this correct?
The chances are that it will be locked to t-mobile.

Depends on where you are getting the phone from as well.
I normaly buy my PAYG phones from CPW and they have always come Unlocked and
no network branding on them!
ChrisM - 25 Feb 2008 13:17 GMT
> I have found a good offer on a mobile phone that I am after,
> unfortunately it's only available with a tmobile payg sim. My present
> phone is on a virgin payg service and I always thought that tmobile
> and virgin networks would work with either a tmobile or virgin sim.
> But the shop says that I will need a sim free phone if I want to use
> the virgin payg network. Is this correct?

What make and model of phone do you have?
Many phones can be easily unlocked (to make them SIM Free).
It will cost you somewhere between nothing at all and about 15 quid,
depending on the phone, and where you get it done...

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Chris Lewis - 25 Feb 2008 13:41 GMT
> What make and model of phone do you have?
> Many phones can be easily unlocked (to make them SIM Free).
> It will cost you somewhere between nothing at all and about 15 quid,
> depending on the phone, and where you get it done...

It's a Samsung D900i, here is the offer
http://www.prepaymania.co.uk/mobilephone/Samsung-d900i-t-mobile-payg.html?base
I have never used this company before, any bad reports about prepaymania?
ChrisM - 25 Feb 2008 14:08 GMT
>> What make and model of phone do you have?
>> Many phones can be easily unlocked (to make them SIM Free).
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> I have never used this company before, any bad reports about
> prepaymania?

Don't know about unlocking that phone. Pay a visit to your local independant
mobile phone shop(or market stall) and ask if they can unlock it and how
much...
Seems like a good price, but never heard of that company before so can't
advise you there. Maybe someone else can though...

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Richard Colton - 25 Feb 2008 21:43 GMT
>> What make and model of phone do you have?
>> Many phones can be easily unlocked (to make them SIM Free).
>> It will cost you somewhere between nothing at all and about 15 quid,
>> depending on the phone, and where you get it done...
>>
> It's a Samsung D900i, <snip>

Pretty easy to unlock, any competent independent phone shop should be able
to do it for around £10.

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Steve Terry - 25 Feb 2008 15:15 GMT
>I have found a good offer on a mobile phone that I am after, unfortunately
>it's only available with a tmobile payg sim. My present phone is on a
>virgin payg service and I always thought that tmobile and virgin networks
>would work with either a tmobile or virgin sim. But the shop says that I
>will need a sim free phone if I want to use the virgin payg network.
> Is this correct?
Usual shop assistant know nothing
Generally T Mobile only SPlock their phones, whereas Virgin both SPlock
and GID1 sim lock theirs

So you can use any T Mobile virtual networks Sim like Virgin in a
T Mobile phone, but not anything other than a Virgin Sim in a Virgin phone

Getting the phone SP unlocked will also clear any GID1 lock too

If you can get the deal from a CPW they use SPunlocked GSM stock
where they can

Steve Terry
 
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