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Cellular Phone Forum / Country Specific / UK Group / March 2008Watch out if you've more than one phone..!
I heard a report on local radio the other day that police in the West Midlands are asking for people to inform on those that have several mobile phones, on the rather flimsy IMHO grounds that terrorists and other criminals use multiple phones to avoid detection. So how is that going to affect those of us that legitimately have several..? Or who use multiple networks to get the best deals..? For example, I have five active numbers..! For anyone remotely interested, they are: one for normal personal use, one for work, one with the original Orange Out Here pack on for the occasional SMS (I don't send many), one emergency spare in the car glovebox and last but not least an old Cellnet SIM that I hang onto purely because it has a memorable number that I might want to sell one day. I think I'd better turn myself in now..! Ivor > I heard a report on local radio the other day that police in the West > Midlands are asking for people to inform on those that have several mobile [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > I think I'd better turn myself in now..! If you add up the subscriber numbers each of the five carriers report for the UK you end up with a total over 70 million in a country with only 60 million residents (some of whom are presumably too small to carry a mobile phone). I don't think you are alone, and I suspect the police in the West Midlands might end up being pretty busy. There are apparently a lot of terrorists and other criminals. Dennis Ferguson > I don't think you are alone, and I suspect the police in the West > Midlands might end up being pretty busy. There are apparently a lot of > terrorists and other criminals. The terrorists have won.  Signature<http://ale.cx/> (AIM:troffasky) (UnSoEsNpEaTm@ale.cx) 13:17:03 up 4 days, 21:08, 1 user, load average: 0.06, 0.14, 0.13 Convergence, n: The act of using separate DSL circuits for voice and data > I heard a report on local radio the other day that police in the West > Midlands are asking for people to inform on those that have several mobile [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > I think I'd better turn myself in now..! Me too, I have four mobile phones around with active SIMs in them. SignatureDave mail da ve@llondel.org (without the space) http://www.llondel.org So many gadgets, so little time On Feb 28, 7:40 pm, "Dave {Reply Address in.Sig}" <noon...@llondel.org> wrote: > In message <62oe4kF22ukt...@mid.individual.net>, Ivor Jones wrote: > > I heard a report on local radio the other day that police in the West > > Midlands are asking for people to inform on those that have several mobile [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > -- > Dave I have several sims (not sure if they all still work!) but I only carry two phones, Ones a work phone and the others my own personal one. Nick. > On Feb 28, 7:40 pm, "Dave {Reply Address in.Sig}" > <noon...@llondel.org> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > carry two phones, Ones a work phone and the others my own personal > one. I have five landline numbers, a VoIP number, and four mobile numbers (all for good reason). I expect the black helicopters very soon.. SignatureBob Eager begin 123 a new life...take up Extreme Ironing! [snip] : : : I have several sims (not sure if they all still : : : work!) but I only carry two phones, Ones a work phone : : : and the others my own personal one. : : : : I have five landline numbers, a VoIP number, and four : : mobile numbers (all for good reason). Hmm. In addition to the 5 mobiles I also have 8 VoIP numbers, perhaps I'd better hand top myself now and save them the trouble..! : : I expect the black helicopters very soon.. I like helicopters, best way to fly. If you get lost you can slow down and read the road signs..! Ivor [snip] : : : I have several sims (not sure if they all still : : : work!) but I only carry two phones, Ones a work phone : : : and the others my own personal one. : : : : I have five landline numbers, a VoIP number, and four : : mobile numbers (all for good reason). Hmm. In addition to the 5 mobiles I also have 8 VoIP numbers, perhaps I'd better hand cuff myself now and save them the trouble..! : : I expect the black helicopters very soon.. I like helicopters, best way to fly. If you get lost you can slow down and read the road signs..! Ivor >> On Feb 28, 7:40 pm, "Dave {Reply Address in.Sig}" >> <noon...@llondel.org> wrote: >> > In message <62oe4kF22ukt...@mid.individual.net>, Ivor Jones wrote: <snip> > I have five landline numbers, a VoIP number, and four mobile numbers > (all for good reason). > I expect the black helicopters very soon.. > Bob Eager Nope, you have to start talking about the Jasker machine for that to happen Steve Terry > I heard a report on local radio the other day that police in the West > Midlands are asking for people to inform on those that have several mobile [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > SIM that I hang onto purely because it has a memorable number that I might > want to sell one day. I carry a personal mobile and a work one as well , but there are several extra numbers registered to me from when I've bought PAYG handsets to replace faulty phones either for me or other people. Highly suspect... SignatureAlex "I laugh in the face of danger , then I hide until it goes away" > I heard a report on local radio the other day that police in the West > Midlands are asking for people to inform on those that have several mobile [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > So how is that going to affect those of us that legitimately have > several..? Or who use multiple networks to get the best deals..? I doubt it would affect you at all. SignatureRegards Jon > I heard a report on local radio the other day that police in the West > Midlands are asking for people to inform on those that have several > mobile phones Don't be daft! : : Ivor Jones wrote: : : : [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] : : : : Don't be daft! I'm not. It's been reported in the press as well as on the radio. The *idea* is certainly daft, but I'm not. Ivor > : : Ivor Jones wrote: > : : : [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > The *idea* is certainly daft, but I'm not. Daft alright There was some case in America a couple of years where 2 or 3 men who happened to be Muslims were persecuted by the authorities for buying 50 or 100 phones and transporting them to sell to a dealer somewhere else Mind you, the original cheap roaming SIM from Swisscom was dropped when it appeared that some of them were in use in rather dodgy areas of the Middle East Somewhere in on or around this desk are about 10 phones and over 20 SIM cards. If the phones have a secondhand value of only a quid or two, what is the point of selling or throwing them away? I once surprised the security staff at Schoenefeld airport by having 5 phones, but she didn't object In message db6a44da-187d-4805-a4db-c4bd24ecf558@x30g2000hsd.googlegroups.com, andy <andy.ggrps@googlemail.com> Proclaimed from the tallest tower: >>>> Ivor Jones wrote: >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > I once surprised the security staff at Schoenefeld airport by having 5 > phones, but she didn't object If the phones only have a value of a quid or so, why NOT throw them away?? Unless you are actively using them, what's the point in keeping them? Unless you are an engineer and intend to use them for spare parts or something. (signed a converted (ie married) ex-hoarder...) SignatureRegards, Chris. (Remove Elvis's shoes to email me) > > I heard a report on local radio the other day that police in the West > > Midlands are asking for people to inform on those that have several > > mobile phones > > Don't be daft! Don't forget, it's the west mids police who arrested a poor chap at gunpoint because some muppet thought his MP3 player "might have been a gun". The scariest thing was, because he was listening to his music (OK it must have been a bit loud), he didn't hear their order to stop at first. And when he saw them, what's the first thing he did ? Yup - you've got it. He put his hand inside his jacket to switch it off ... So it's not daft. This ludicrous climate of fear the Government is trying to get us to buy into (no one I know is remotely scared of terrorists. They *are* scared of the government) is going to get more innocent people killed. > I heard a report on local radio the other day that police in the > West Midlands are asking for people to inform on those that have [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Ivor I give up! > I heard a report on local radio the other day that police in the West > Midlands are asking for people to inform on those that have several mobile > phones, on the rather flimsy IMHO grounds that terrorists and other > criminals use multiple phones to avoid detection. In Manchester they have an add in the paper! > So how is that going to affect those of us that legitimately have > several..? Or who use multiple networks to get the best deals..? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Ivor B****r they are on to me - and I have had a clean sheet up till now - what with three phones (one came with a car) and five SIM's, plus another phone and SIM in the house that I bought for my partner I must be in really deep ****. I had four landlines till last week, but now I only have three, but will be adding VOIP and a Blackberry soon! I think the police will soon discover that for the most part crime is not actually that well organised... I mean how many criminals do you know with a PBX? In message -uWdnR53Q9F37VTanZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com, R. Mark Clayton <nospamclayton@btinternet.com> Proclaimed from the tallest tower: >> I heard a report on local radio the other day that police in the West >> Midlands are asking for people to inform on those that have several [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > not actually that well organised... I mean how many criminals do you > know with a PBX? Jees! You people must live such complex lives!! Do you actually use all those phones and SIMs? I've got 1 land line and a mobile, my wife also has a mobile. That's it! Unless you run a business from your home, what on earth do you use all these connections for?? SignatureRegards, Chris. (Remove Elvis's shoes to email me) [snip] : : Jees! ?? : : You people must live such complex lives!! Do you : : actually use all those phones and SIMs? I've got 1 land : : line and a mobile, my wife also has a mobile. That's : : it! Unless you run a business from your home, what on : : earth do you use all these connections for?? I told you - : : : : For example, I have five active numbers..! For : : : : anyone remotely interested, they are: one for [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] : : : : SIM that I hang onto purely because it has a : : : : memorable number that I might want to sell one day. Is the above so unreasonable..? Ivor > [snip] > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Ivor When did I say it was unreasonable? Apologies for missing that earlier post where you explained the phones you had... The only one I don't understand (though I'm not saying it's unreasonable) is why do you need a seperate phone for SMSs? Surely if you don't send many, you can just send them from your 'normal' phone...? By the way, my previous post should probably have had a :-) somewhere as you seem to have taken it more seriously than it was intended. :-) SignatureRegards, Chris. (Remove Elvis's shoes to email me) [snip] : : The only one I don't understand (though I'm not saying : : it's unreasonable) is why do you need a seperate phone : : for SMSs? Surely if you don't send many, you can just : : send them from your 'normal' phone...? Because the SMS phone has the original Orange Out Here pack which gives 5 free SMS a day. For the small number I send, that is more than enough. From my normal network they're 10p each. Ok not a lot given the amount, but free is still cheaper than 10p ;-) Ivor > [snip] > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Ivor Ok, so even that has a rational explanation!! Now I can sleep easy in my bed tonight... :-) SignatureRegards, Chris. (Remove Elvis's shoes to email me) >I heard a report on local radio the other day that police in the West >Midlands are asking for people to inform on those that have several mobile [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Ivor Samsung better take note, as it looks like their is going to be a market for the D880 DuoS in the UK after all. ;) http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=161021 Sam. [snip] : : Samsung better take note, as it looks like their is : : going to be a market for the D880 DuoS in the UK after [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] : : : : Sam. If only it would fit my Nokia CARK-91 car kit..! Ivor > I heard a report on local radio the other day that police in the West > Midlands are asking for people to inform on those that have several mobile > phones, on the rather flimsy IMHO grounds that terrorists and other > criminals use multiple phones to avoid detection. > > So how is that going to affect those of us that legitimately legitimately? When is owning several not legitimate? > have > several..? Or who use multiple networks to get the best deals..? If your neighbour snitches on you (regarding your collection of mobiles) then expect plod to come and question you. > For example, I have five active numbers..! For anyone remotely interested, > they are: one for normal personal use, one for work, one with the original [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I think I'd better turn myself in now..! Yeah. > Ivor : : On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:50:42 +0000, Ivor Jones wrote: : : [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] : : : : legitimately? When is owning several not legitimate? Erm.. when you're a terrorist..? Ivor > : : On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:50:42 +0000, Ivor Jones wrote: > : : [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Erm.. when you're a terrorist..? Almost. When you are using them in connection with terrorist activities, and the reason for having several is in furtherance of said activities. Even terrorists might have multiple phones for legitimate reasons, same as you or I! :-) SignatureBob Eager begin 123 a new life...take up Extreme Ironing! |
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