Cellular Phone Forum / Country Specific / UK Group / May 2008
Flextel email ~ what do I do?
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jaakson - 16 May 2008 17:31 GMT I an email from Flextel of their latest news release.
This is the text: http://www.flextel.co.uk/press/news.html
What am I supposed to do? Am I honestly supposed to compose a free format email answering the points raised by Flextel? Doing that doesn't quite seem right.
What is that message all about?
Lobster - 16 May 2008 18:47 GMT > I an email from Flextel of their latest news release. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > What is that message all about? What's the problem? It's 100% clear on the webpage.
David
Lobster - 16 May 2008 18:55 GMT > I an email from Flextel of their latest news release. I won't be responding to them, despite having had a flextel number for donkey's years. In fact, I haven't used it for ages now, as I think it's a dead duck - first the charge to call a flextel number is prohibitive - 35p/min!! and secondly, many businesses and systems specifically bar their number range due to the cost, which means you risk being unable to be contacted by a caller if all they have is your flextel number. Also has problems when calling overseas, too.
It's a shame really, as in principle it's an excellent facility; in the very early days, which was before inclusive-minute mobile contracts became the norm, it was only slightly more expensive to call via flextel than to a standard mobile.
David
Adrian C - 16 May 2008 20:19 GMT >> I an email from Flextel of their latest news release. > > I won't be responding to them, despite having had a flextel number for > donkey's years. In fact, I haven't used it for ages now, as I think > it's a dead duck - first the charge to call a flextel number is > prohibitive - 35p/min!! Yes, I was about to ressurect a similar PN service (YAC) that I had signed upto about 5 years ago. Same thing - very expensive to call. I would have liked something so that my mobile number change would be the last one I make (bit like my email address registration with someone other than my ISP) but err... no, I won't saddle callers with that cost!
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jaakson - 16 May 2008 22:21 GMT >>> I an email from Flextel of their latest news release. >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > registration with someone other than my ISP) but err... no, I > won't saddle callers with that cost! Who else apart from Flextel and YAC are providing free portable numbers but at less cost for callers?
Soruk - 17 May 2008 01:06 GMT >>>> I an email from Flextel of their latest news release. >>> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >Who else apart from Flextel and YAC are providing free portable numbers >but at less cost for callers? This may surprise you - but Flextel do. They now allow their 0871 (10p/min) numbers to be forwarded to mobiles, except for 3UK.
In some circumstances this might even make it cheaper to call a mobile via an 0871 than by dialling its actual number.
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Iain - 18 May 2008 18:55 GMT > Who else apart from Flextel and YAC are providing free portable numbers > but at less cost for callers? viop.co.uk, sipgate.co.uk - not intended as portable numbers, of course.
Bob Eager - 16 May 2008 19:16 GMT > I an email from Flextel of their latest news release. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > What is that message all about? They obviously have only one customer, judging by the first sentence. Must be desperate! :-)
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Lobster - 16 May 2008 19:24 GMT >> I an email from Flextel of their latest news release. >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > They obviously have only one customer, judging by the first sentence. > Must be desperate! :-) Well as I'm not helping, that's them screwed then! David
Ian Smith - 16 May 2008 20:26 GMT >> I an email from Flextel of their latest news release. >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > They obviously have only one customer, judging by the first sentence. > Must be desperate! :-) I agree - I have several numbers, but they are just too expensive to use. I couldn't care less if they go.
regards, Ian
J B - 16 May 2008 20:59 GMT > I agree - I have several numbers, but they are just too expensive to use. > I couldn't care less if they go. Disagree
It's useful when folks insist on a valid phone number on those web forms
Also useful to 'discourage' folks from ringing ,that you don't want to hear from! :-)
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Lobster - 17 May 2008 12:43 GMT >> I agree - I have several numbers, but they are just too expensive to >> use. I couldn't care less if they go. > > Disagree Disagree!
> It's useful when folks insist on a valid phone number on those web forms I use either a 'dead' number from the 'drama range' <http://www.ofcom.org.uk/telecoms/ioi/numbers/num_drama>
or, if it's for something where there's a small chance I might want to be contacted but don't want to risk my ordinary number ending up on a spammer's list, then I use my otherwise unused but working VOIP number, which would send me any voicemail message left as an email.
> Also useful to 'discourage' folks from ringing ,that you don't want to > hear from! :-) See above! much more effective...
David
jaakson - 16 May 2008 22:20 GMT >> I an email from Flextel of their latest news release. >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > They obviously have only one customer, judging by the first sentence. > Must be desperate! :-) Sorry about the missing word! It should have said:
"I had an email from Flextel ... "
Bob Eager - 16 May 2008 22:40 GMT > >> I an email from Flextel of their latest news release. > >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > "I had an email from Flextel ... " That wasn't what I meant. I was referring to the first sentence on the Flextel site:
"Ofcom, the communications regulator, has approached FleXtel to ask for our customer's help."
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Tim Clark - 17 May 2008 09:47 GMT >> >> I an email from Flextel of their latest news release. >> >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > "Ofcom, the communications regulator, has approached FleXtel to ask > for our customer's help." The problem of confusing singular/plural and their possessive forms is no longer confined to just greengrocers. Unfortunately, it is no longer considered important. So when Flextel write seeking help from their customer, one is no longer expected to take what they say at face value, and wonder why they only have one customer. Instead the reader is meant to be concentrating on any flashy surrounding graphics. The recipients of these communications are expected to be as illiterate as the sender. Pretty pictures are therefore considered far more important in any announcement.
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Andrew Gabriel - 17 May 2008 10:33 GMT > The problem of confusing singular/plural and their possessive forms is > no longer confined to just greengrocers. Unfortunately, it is no longer [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > the sender. Pretty pictures are therefore considered far more > important in any announcement. I wonder if schools even bother teaching this anymore?
I think the plural possessive trailing apostropie is now so rarely used correctly that a significant proportion of readers who notice it would think it was a typing error. I do still instinctively use it, but I then find myself doing a double take on what I've written, and asking myself if that apostrophie is likely to help most of my readership comprehend the sentence, and deciding it probably doesn't. On that basis, I reluctantly suspect it's a piece of punctuation best left behind in the 20th century.
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Larousse - 18 May 2008 01:47 GMT >> The problem of confusing singular/plural and their possessive >> forms is no longer confined to just greengrocers. Unfortunately, [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > I reluctantly suspect it's a piece of punctuation best left > behind in the 20th century. I think the sweetest error is to use "asterix" for "asterisk".
Bob Eager - 18 May 2008 08:51 GMT > I think the sweetest error is to use "asterix" for "asterisk". Yes, I love that one. They'll be saying that Cleopatra's Needle is an obelix next...
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Iain - 18 May 2008 18:58 GMT > I wonder if schools even bother teaching this anymore? Very definitely, some do. The literacy hour had a huge impact on some schools, and the results are now beginning to reach school leaving age. Children leaving school able to write grammatically correct English - something we've not seen for decades!
Oliver W - 25 May 2008 21:12 GMT >I think the plural possessive trailing apostropie is now so >rarely used correctly that a significant proportion of [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >I reluctantly suspect it's a piece of punctuation best left >behind in the 20th century. 1. So, are the following best left behind? "The parents' intentions for their children to have a good education..." "The voters' opinions were clear in the election results."
2. Each of the above sentences contains an apostrophe, not an apostropie or an apostrophie. (Yes, I know, nothing to do with telecomms.)
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Rob - 17 May 2008 19:47 GMT >I an email from Flextel of their latest news release. > > This is the text: http://www.flextel.co.uk/press/news.html > > What am I supposed to do? Do you have an adult to ask, or do you turn to a newsgroup each time a decision is to be made? No wonder there are so many helpless, useless people in this country that demand everyone else thinks for them.
Adrian C - 18 May 2008 17:11 GMT > Do you have an adult to ask, or do you turn to a newsgroup each time > a decision is to be made? No wonder there are so many helpless, useless > people in this country that demand everyone else thinks for them. You are not a very good troll, are you Tiscali Idiot?!
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