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JamesT - 27 Aug 2008 22:38 GMT

I have a Virgin mobile but just lately when I call someone their
caller display shows my number but it says T Mobile network. Anyone
know why?

Also I have just moved to a south coast town in Sussex, and inside my
flat the signal strength is usually nil. I have to walk down the road
to get a signal. Is this normal with Virgin or is it likely to be the
same if I switch providers?

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Soruk - 28 Aug 2008 12:54 GMT

> I have a Virgin mobile but just lately when I call someone their
> caller display shows my number but it says T Mobile network. Anyone
> know why?

Virgin piggy-back off T-Mobile.

> Also I have just moved to a south coast town in Sussex, and inside my
> flat the signal strength is usually nil. I have to walk down the road
> to get a signal. Is this normal with Virgin or is it likely to be the
> same if I switch providers?

It will most likely be the same on T-Mobile. Other carriers may be
different.

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Steve Terry - 28 Aug 2008 15:31 GMT

>I have a Virgin mobile but just lately when I call someone their
> caller display shows my number but it says T Mobile network.
> Anyone know why?

CPS not working in the phone, so sim not being able to tell the
phone not to use the default logo?

Yep, no T Mobile or so Virgin where i lived in Peacehaven E. Sussex.

Do a manual scan on your phone, should show networks it's found,
but it doesn't mean they are strong enough to be useable

Funny enough Three was best, with Three 3g in the north of the town
where the 3 cell was, and on Three 2g roaming on Orange in the
south and east, as the Orange cell was on the east of the town.

Steve Terry

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Doug Paulley - 28 Aug 2008 17:29 GMT

>Do a manual scan on your phone, should show networks it's found,
>but it doesn't mean they are strong enough to be useable

The coverage checkers for various networks are a reasonable
indication.

O2 http://www.webmap.o2.co.uk/?Search=Search
Orange http://coverage.orange.co.uk/uk/UKCoverageSearch.htm
Three http://www.three.co.uk/personal/coverage_/coverageChecker.do
(though their 2G coverage is obviously the same as Orange)
T-Mobile http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/services/coverage/street-check/
Vodafone http://maps.vodafone.co.uk/coverageviewer/web/default.aspx

If somebody were to write an app that checked all 5 (or 4 2G)
providers coverage for a postcode in one go, perhaps with a map, I
would feel obliged to have their kids.

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Steve Terry - 28 Aug 2008 18:50 GMT

>>Do a manual scan on your phone, should show networks it's found,
>>but it doesn't mean they are strong enough to be useable
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> providers coverage for a postcode in one go, perhaps with a map,
> I would feel obliged to have their kids.

and if a networks map says you have coverage,
and your phone on manual scan doesn't find it?

You have too much faith in the maps to have kids for it

Steve Terry

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Doug Paulley - 29 Aug 2008 22:55 GMT

>and if a networks map says you have coverage,
>and your phone on manual scan doesn't find it?
>
>You have too much faith in the maps to have kids for it

good point; they are a handy reference though.

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Mark Carver - 28 Aug 2008 19:49 GMT

> Vodafone http://maps.vodafone.co.uk/coverageviewer/web/default.aspx

There is bugger all Vodafone signal in my house, or in a several hundred yard
radius from it. Yet that checker shows a uniform 'good' signal.

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Steve Terry - 28 Aug 2008 19:55 GMT

>> Vodafone http://maps.vodafone.co.uk/coverageviewer/web/default.aspx
>
> There is bugger all Vodafone signal in my house, or in a several hundred
> yard radius from it. Yet that checker shows a uniform 'good' signal.
> Mark

Lies, dammed Lies, and Mobile network maps.

Steve Terry

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Mark - 29 Aug 2008 11:17 GMT

>> Vodafone http://maps.vodafone.co.uk/coverageviewer/web/default.aspx
>
>There is bugger all Vodafone signal in my house, or in a several hundred yard
>radius from it. Yet that checker shows a uniform 'good' signal.

Same for me with T-Mobile and it shows a "Very Good" signal for most
of the area.

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Dennis Ferguson - 28 Aug 2008 21:08 GMT

>>Do a manual scan on your phone, should show networks it's found,
>>but it doesn't mean they are strong enough to be useable
>
> The coverage checkers for various networks are a reasonable
> indication.

My rule of thumb is that a coverage map with enough detail to
tell you whether your house is in a coverage hole or not will
necessarily have enough detail to tell you approximately where
the towers are as well.

Since none of the UK carrier maps give you any hint about the
latter I doubt they are capable of telling you the former either.
I know it is possible to compute quite precise coverage maps
since at least one of the US carriers does it for its native
coverage, e.g.

http://www.t-mobile.com/coverage/pcc.aspx

(if you want some zip codes, 94301, 22203 and 10606 are places I've
lived). Since the UK carrier maps don't look like that I don't think
I would trust them for too much.

Dennis Ferguson

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