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recommendations: contract or PAYG that's data friendly

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Ric - 28 Aug 2008 23:32 GMT
Hi All,
Having changed jobs, my work phone has now gone.  I want either a
contract or PAYG that's cheap and data friendly - I don't make many
calls, or use that many texts, but unlimited data is what I'm after.
What's out there at the moment?  Any recommendations?

Ric
xCx - 28 Aug 2008 23:47 GMT
> Hi All,
> Having changed jobs, my work phone has now gone.  I want either a
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Ric

Pop into your local phones4u store, they've got all the best deals and
will find you something that suits you.
Jon - 29 Aug 2008 07:44 GMT
> > Hi All,
> > Having changed jobs, my work phone has now gone.  I want either a
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Pop into your local phones4u store, they've got all the best deals and
> will find you something that suits you.

Oh my god, a phones4U salesperson on the group!
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Jon

Invisible Man - 29 Aug 2008 08:24 GMT
>>> Hi All,
>>> Having changed jobs, my work phone has now gone.  I want either a
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Oh my god, a phones4U salesperson on the group!

If you must try Phone4U be very careful and verify everything they say
independently.
Soruk - 29 Aug 2008 23:06 GMT
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> Having changed jobs, my work phone has now gone.  I want either a
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> If you must try Phone4U be very careful and verify everything they say
> independently.

They sometimes do some very silly things - like upgrade my ED50 phone to
a RAZR2 V8 (2GB version) for nothing. ;)

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xCx - 29 Aug 2008 11:53 GMT
>>> Hi All,
>>> Having changed jobs, my work phone has now gone.  I want either a
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Oh my god, a phones4U salesperson on the group!

*snigger*
Ian - 29 Aug 2008 20:08 GMT
>> Hi All,
>> Having changed jobs, my work phone has now gone.  I want either a
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Pop into your local phones4u store, they've got all the best deals and
> will find you something that suits you.

You have to be joking?  They sell worthless insurance you don't need unless
you plan
to upgrade via the "I've had my phone stolen" trick.  Sales people sell you
a product
or service that earns them the most commission - or that they are told to
sell by the
managers that month.  You will end up leaving with a product that doesn't
suit you.
My advice is do your own research and shop around for a while first, have a
clear
idea of what you want nd stick to it.  Why would you want 1000minutes and
500 texts
for say £40 a month if you would never use them?  It would be best to try
something
like the PAYG service from ASDA.  Stop laughing, it's almost better value
than Virgin.
Soruk - 29 Aug 2008 23:09 GMT
>>> Hi All,
>>> Having changed jobs, my work phone has now gone.  I want either a
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> like the PAYG service from ASDA.  Stop laughing, it's almost better value
> than Virgin.

Actually, as well as ASDA's offering with data soon to drop to 20p/Mbyte
(AVOID Virgin if you want to use data, they charge £5.12/MB) consider
Three's option, they let you get a bundle on PAYG for £5 which gives
effectively unlimited handset browsing (it's not meant for tethering,
but it works, just don't go nuts) and the bundle lasts 30 days.

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Brian A - 31 Aug 2008 11:29 GMT
>(AVOID Virgin if you want to use data, they charge £5.12/MB) consider
That was some time ago. I seem to remember that they sent me notice
that they now charge something like 0.2p/KB.That is still £2000/GB
though. Unfortunately they don't do blocks of data and that is one of
the things that makes them unattractive.
I am currently on the Virgin 300/300 tariff for £10/month.
Looking at all the tariffs I would thik that '3' PAYG looks to be the
best. If I understand it correctly you top up with £10/month and can
designate £5 of that to go to 1GB of data. You also get various other
services for free.

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Martin - 31 Aug 2008 13:20 GMT
> >(AVOID Virgin if you want to use data, they charge £5.12/MB) consider
>
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£10 is the minimum top-up available on Three PAYG, you're not obliged
to top up every month though.

If you go transfer your existing mobile number to a new Three SIM card
you qualify for £10 of FREE CREDIT!!
(That free £10 credit must be used within the first month it's offered
by the way - it can be spent on anything - a £5 Internet Monthly
bundle for example).

http://three.co.uk/personal/price_plans_/pay_as_you_go_/keep_your_number.omp

Martin.
Soruk - 01 Sep 2008 19:12 GMT
>>(AVOID Virgin if you want to use data, they charge £5.12/MB) consider
> That was some time ago. I seem to remember that they sent me notice
> that they now charge something like 0.2p/KB.That is still £2000/GB
> though. Unfortunately they don't do blocks of data and that is one of
> the things that makes them unattractive.

According to
http://www.virginmobile.com/vm/genericContent.do?contentId=payasyougo.tariff.how
doi.sm131

and
http://www.virginmobile.com/vm/genericContent.do?contentId=paymonthly.ourTariff.
standardcharges.shop.sm142


it's still 0.5p/Kbyte (£5.12/Mbyte).

I see they've sneaked the cross-net rate up from 35p/min to 40p/min, and
cross-net SMS from 10p to 12p per text.  I don't recall getting any
notification of that in any recent bill (I'm on PAYG by Direct Debit).

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Steve Terry - 29 Aug 2008 22:06 GMT
>> Hi All,
>> Having changed jobs, my work phone has now gone.  I want either a
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Pop into your local phones4u store, they've got all the best deals and
> will find you something that suits you.

That's the worse troll i've seen in years on uk.t.m

Steve Terry
Al Reynolds - 29 Aug 2008 00:09 GMT
> Hi All,
> Having changed jobs, my work phone has now gone.  I want either a
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Ric

O2 PAYG allows you to add the Unlimited (1Gb) Web Bolt-on
for £7.50pm, but I don't think you can use it for e-mail other than
O2's own email servers.

For £20 you can get unlimited (1Gb) data, 600 mins and 1000 texts
with O2 Simplicity (special offer until end of September).

There are probably others who know more and will chip in...

Al
Gordon Henderson - 29 Aug 2008 07:46 GMT
>> Hi All,
>> Having changed jobs, my work phone has now gone.  I want either a
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>For £20 you can get unlimited (1Gb) data, 600 mins and 1000 texts
>with O2 Simplicity (special offer until end of September).

I think the deals are £15 or £20 as a sim-only contract - the web
bolt-on is £7.50, but is included in the £20 deal, so you'd be bonkers
to not take it!

And I'm looking at moving over to this when my contract ends (October
but the chap in the local shop reckons they'll extend the deal)

Can't say I've had any problems connection for email when I'm using my
current O2 system - it would surprise me if they had a separate data
network (or set of firewalls) for another producy, but you never know
with O2 ... I guess it depends on it costing them less to implement it
than they'd gain from forcing punters to use their own systems...

O2 annoyances: Using the word "unlimitd" when it's clearly not. Telling
me I can't connect my Nokia E90 to a laptop - when the E90 on it's own
is just as capable of downloading GB of data when running google maps or
downloading all the spam I get, or uploading photos and videos I shoot
with it....

Gordon
Invisible Man - 29 Aug 2008 08:28 GMT
>>> Hi All,
>>> Having changed jobs, my work phone has now gone.  I want either a
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>
> Gordon
I have just gone with the £20 Simplicity. Possible because I am already
with o2 and getting lazy in my old age.
The shop says the offer is limited to end September but I believe the
website now says new lower price.
It can be cancelled on 30 days notice so if my phone gives up or I find
a better deal I can do something else.
Gordon Henderson - 29 Aug 2008 10:18 GMT
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> Having changed jobs, my work phone has now gone.  I want either a
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
>It can be cancelled on 30 days notice so if my phone gives up or I find
>a better deal I can do something else.

Indeed - and as I'm currently with O2 on a £35 pcm contract, getting
stung for data charges on-top, then anything less for me will be a
bonus... (My wife just did the same on Orange - go from 18 month
contract to monthly SIM only - dropped from £30 to £10 for her...

Quite an intersting turn of events I think - we've looked after the
phones, so have no isses about running them for another year or so, so
why should be continue to pay a premium once the mobile co. has had
it's slice of the initial phone costs? (and we're not modern yoof, so
don't need the latest trendy handset every 6 months either ;-)

My wife plans to go back on a year/18 month contract in about a years
time when her current phone really does get to be a bit old compared to
the next gen... And I'll probably do the same.

Gordon
mobaholic - 30 Aug 2008 13:07 GMT
> > Hi All,
> > Having changed jobs, my work phone has now gone.  I want either a
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Al

Excuse me please, but the O2 Pay & Go Web Bolt On is 200 MG / month
'fair use', NOT Unlimited or 1GB as you say.
See:-   http://www.o2.co.uk/mobilestariffs/tariffs/paygo/o2webbolton
You CAN use it for email: both the gmail Java tool, and Yahoo Go, work
on it fine, as do others if you access them through opera mini
software.

The pay monthly contract Bolt On for £7-50 per month is described as
'Unlimited'.
See:-   http://www.o2.co.uk/mobilestariffs/tariffs/paymonthly/boltons
However, its 'fair use' policy does not appear to be decribed on the
O2 website.
At:-   http://www.o2.co.uk/termsconditions/tariffsandboltons0153 there
is a lot of bumph under 'Data Bolt On Terms', but no figures are
given.
Where did you find the 1GB figure ?  Is that your own invention too ?
Martin - 29 Aug 2008 06:28 GMT
> Hi All,
> Having changed jobs, my work phone has now gone.  I want either a
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Ric

I'd recommend a PAYG sim from Three and then their £5 Internet Monthly
bundle.
The Internet Monthly bundle gives you up to 1GB of data to use more or
less as you want.

I check various email accounts, browse the web, listen to streaming
radio/watch streaming video and more.
I can connect to FTP sites and even VNC remote access my XP computer
with my Nokia 6630.

About the only thing i've found that's blocked is access to orb.com
and it's sub-domains - but this can be worked-around using Opera Mini.

Ensure that you use the email servers of your email account provider
though and not the official Three email server - i believe that using
the official Three email server isn't covered by the Internet Monthly
bundle.

http://three.co.uk/personal/price_plans_/pay_as_you_go_/do_more.omp

Martin.
Seinman - 29 Aug 2008 20:58 GMT
On 28 Aug, 23:32, Ric <infobub...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
> Having changed jobs, my work phone has now gone.  I want either a
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Ric

>The Internet Monthly bundle gives you up to 1GB of data to use more or
>less as you want.

Agreed, Three is the best for data. However, you actually get 2GB data for
£5 a month on PAYG.
Steve Terry - 29 Aug 2008 22:12 GMT
> On 28 Aug, 23:32, Ric <infobub...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi All,
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Agreed, Three is the best for data. However, you actually get 2GB data for
> £5 a month on PAYG.

It's what i use but very slow, less than 400kb/s download speed

Get a HSDPA phone like the new Three Skype S2 (Mk2) (about 80quid)
and add at least the Broadband 1Gb d/l for 10quid p/m payg

Then if in a 3.5G area you should over 2Mb/s download speed

Steve Terry
Ric - 29 Aug 2008 23:43 GMT
> > Hi All,
> > Having changed jobs, my work phone has now gone.  I want either a
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>
> Martin.

ooh.  interesting.  so it's a fiver a month on top of boggo PAYG
charges for the data?  excellent.
i'd want to use gmail's IMAP servers.

next question - i've an HTC P3300 non-3G phone.  can i keep this and
stick a 3g sim in it and get unlimited GPRS?
Alan Semple - 30 Aug 2008 12:23 GMT
On 29 Aug, 06:28, Martin <warwo...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> > Hi All,
>> > Having changed jobs, my work phone has now gone.  I want either a
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>>
>> Martin.

> ooh.  interesting.  so it's a fiver a month on top of boggo PAYG
> charges for the data?  excellent.
> i'd want to use gmail's IMAP servers.

Personally, I could never get the Skypephone S1's onboard e-mail client to
work with Gmail but there is an application that you can download from
Google that does work.

The new S2 may have this sorted out now, unless it was just me :-)

> next question - i've an HTC P3300 non-3G phone.  can i keep this and
> stick a 3g sim in it and get unlimited GPRS?

The answer should be "No", a few months back when "Flat 12" on PAYG it was
very clear that a 3G phone was required and even if it actually registers,
sooner or later the sim card could or should get blocked.

You could still use your HTC P3300 via bluetooth through an S2 but obviously
the download speeds will drop.

If you pick up a Nokia E51 you could get faster access over Wi Fi with
"Joikuspot" but it hammers the battery.

Alan
mcv - 02 Sep 2008 13:30 GMT
A used orange payg. got a 3g sim card, stuck it in my unlocked 3g phone,
 connected to my computer via bluetooth, or the usb cable, and
unlimited internet for £5 a week using orange world. some months I
download over 10 gig and had no probs. and u get free texts depending
what u top up with.

> Hi All,
> Having changed jobs, my work phone has now gone.  I want either a
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Ric
 
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